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Posted by Sven 84 on Nov-15-2004 11:05:

Ministry of Sound Annual ...

I would just like to state how appaled i am with Ministry of Sounds recent works especially there "Annual" compliations. I recently obtained the 2005 Annual compilations (someone brought it for me) and to might disgust i could not listen to the insipd crap on it. I dont even think its classified as dance music. its just plain crap. I am aware that ministry of sound produces and releases these compliations with a insentive for there taget audience, but what happened to old Ministry of sound, maybe its just me but i remember the live sets of '99 '00 '01 etc and they were awesome as well as some of the HARD NRG comps and even chillout sessions. Now they are just shite.

My two cents.


Posted by tu_face on Nov-15-2004 11:12:

Re: Ministry of Sound Annual ...

quote:
Originally posted by Sven 84
I would just like to state how appaled i am with Ministry of Sounds recent works especially there "Annual" compliations. I recently obtained the 2005 Annual compilations (someone brought it for me) and to might disgust i could not listen to the insipd crap on it. I dont even think its classified as dance music. its just plain crap. I am aware that ministry of sound produces and releases these compliations with a insentive for there taget audience, but what happened to old Ministry of sound, maybe its just me but i remember the live sets of '99 '00 '01 etc and they were awesome as well as some of the HARD NRG comps and even chillout sessions. Now they are just shite.

My two cents.


yeah, top be honest they have been crap for a while now. they used to be wicked, even judge jules' ones in 99. ibiza annual owned me!


Posted by A.J. on Nov-15-2004 11:22:

We have our own annual for Australia though, don't forget. I think it is a little different to the "main" one from the UK, and it has more Aussie artists on it.

I have to agree that there are quite a lot of commercial, cheesy tracks on there, but i still like most of them It shows all of the biggest tracks for the year......

Ministry Of Sound - Annual 2005
(Australia) - Mixed by John Course / Mark Dynamix


Disk 1

1. Eric Prydz � Call On Me
2. Deep Dish � Flashdance (Skylark Mix)
3. Hardsoul Feat. Ron Carroll - Back Together (Seamus Haji & Paul Emanuel Re-mix)
4. Armand Van Helden � My My My (Original)
5. Mutiny � Holding On
6. Basement Jaxx Feat. Lisa Kekaula - Good Luck (Tim Deluxe Funked Club Mix)
7. Stonebridge � Put 'Em High (Jj 12" Mix)
8. Soul Central - Strings Of Life (Danny Krivit Re-edit)
9. Toby Neal � Join The Dots (Version 1)
10. Mula - All In The Head (Ralph Lawson Mix & El Dopa Mix)
11. Laurent Konrad � Haunted
12. Jan Driver � Ladies Want It
13. Tiga - Pleasure From The Bass
14. Afropeans - Better Things (Skye �N� Sugarstarr Remix)
15. Danny Howells And Dick Trevor Feat. Erire - Dusk �Til Dawn (Shapeshifters Remix)
16. Mr Timothy Featuring Inaya Day � I Am Tha 1
17. Scent � Up & Down
18. Junior Jack � Stupidisco
19. Craig Obey & The Elektrik Force Feat. Chance - Hyp-ma-tize-me (Craig Obey Remix)
20. Olav Basoski - Waterman

Disk 2

1. Mylo � Drop The Pressure
2. Studio B - I See Girls (Crazy) (Tom Neville Remix)
3. Axwell - Feel The Vibe
4. City Slickers - Perfect World (Steve Mac Remix)
5. Stisch Featuring Magnus Carlson - Beauty In Me (Barfly Remix)
6. Starsailor � Four To The Floor (Thin White Duke Mix)
7. Inaya Day � Nasty Girls (Full Vocal Mix)
8. Aloud � Sex & Sun Part Iii (Club Mix)
9. Max Linen � Flashback
10. Infusion � Girls Can Be Cruel
11. Shapeshifters � Lola�s Theme (Eric Prydz Remix) / Shapeshifters � Lola�s Theme
12. Eric Prydz & Steve Angello - Woz Not Woz
13. Alex Neri � Housetrack
14. Mark Dynamix & Jaytech � Identify Me
15. Alter Ego � Rocker
16. Timo Di Roy � Don�t Stop (Babylon Robots Remix)
17. Ferry Corsten � It�s Time (Album Extended Dub)
18. Moguai � Freaks (Radio Short Mix)
19. Freestylers � Push Up
20. The Prodigy � Girls


Posted by Trance Nutter on Nov-15-2004 11:48:

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.
We have our own annual for Australia though, don't forget. I think it is a little different to the "main" one from the UK, and it has more Aussie artists on it.


It went seriously down hill here when MoS started doing Australian annuals, I think it was around 2001. From then they have been just REALLY bad, I don't even bother looking at MoS comps now cos I know that they've declined into cheese and shite, don't waste my time nor money.


Posted by Streakfury on Nov-15-2004 12:16:

Yeah from 2002 Ministry Of Suck just slid down that slippery hill of credability so fast. The Trance Nations were good while Ferry mixed them, and then they decided to tell him what tracks to put on there, so he stopped mixing them. They sucked big time, and then Jules stepped in to mix the last two or three, but even so, it's still the commercial rubbish that MoS want on there, instead of actual trance. It's all about the dollar now.


Posted by XaNaX on Nov-15-2004 13:50:

Ok, at least I'm not the only one who thinks the last couple of these have been eurodance cheesefests.


Posted by Abhay on Nov-15-2004 13:59:

Re: Ministry of Sound Annual ...

quote:
Originally posted by Sven 84
I would just like to state how appaled i am with Ministry of Sounds recent works especially there "Annual" compliations. I recently obtained the 2005 Annual compilations (someone brought it for me) and to might disgust i could not listen to the insipd crap on it. I dont even think its classified as dance music. its just plain crap. I am aware that ministry of sound produces and releases these compliations with a insentive for there taget audience, but what happened to old Ministry of sound, maybe its just me but i remember the live sets of '99 '00 '01 etc and they were awesome as well as some of the HARD NRG comps and even chillout sessions. Now they are just shite.

My two cents.


God Bless overly COmmercialised labels...

******s ruining trance...

can u imagine all the people who might have heard EDM they loved... but the only thing they know is MOS?

They'll end up listening to this shit....


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Nov-15-2004 14:02:

i gave up hope on Mos a loooong time ago, almost 90 % of stuff they put on cd's is utter wank, never buy the cd's have no need anyways i got me decks and they do fine for me


Posted by Martyn on Nov-15-2004 14:23:

Since the Annual 2002, they have been shocking, and did anyone else notice how they completely missed out an annual 2001, it's ridiculous, they started naming them as the following year, when clearly none of those tracks are from 2005.
So my CD collection looks really odd, with an annual 2000, and then an annual 2003, which was pretty bad, it had a garage CD on it for christ sake.
Stopped buying them now, so it's not all bad, but you'd think they'd keep some sort of consistency.


Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-15-2004 21:39:

I'm very dissappointed with The Annual 2005 as well. Even 2004 was better than this year.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Nov-16-2004 00:12:

Thumbs down

Are MoS the only people to release an Annual CD every other week?.....no wonder it is full of crap

But even worse is that Judge Jules has mixed the latest Euphoria CD The tracklist looks ok but nothing to make you go like the old ones did and I think Underworld - Born Slippy (nuxx) is one of the worst ever tunes to be pressed

Bring in someone new.....


Posted by t�bias on Nov-16-2004 00:59:

Ministry of Sound compilations are fantastic.

Sure true edm fans and those that have been in the scene and devoted to the genre for a long time are not the target market for these compilations.

But surely these people are smart enough to realise this and not quite dumb enough to bitch about a commercial dance compilation designed to be bought by fans of other genres and casual edm fans. Some of the responses to this thread so far have proved me wrong though it seems.

I mean the shock horror that these people that buy this cd pack could actually be motivated to go to a club and listen to dance music instead of going to see a rock band. I mean how bad is that? Only lovers of non commercial dance music and non cheese should be allowed to attend dance events and spend money that helps all facets of the industry.

How much better would it be if all edm was underground, all compilations were non commercial, there was no such thing as casual edm fans and Minstry of Sound didn't produce albums that had catchy cheesy songs that could actually motivate people to get into the scene.

I apologise in advance to all the narrow minded people that think that all edm releases should not be designed to make lots of money by choosing catchy cheesy songs. Its such a terrible world we live in....


Posted by Streakfury on Nov-16-2004 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
Ministry of Sound compilations are fantastic.

Sure true edm fans and those that have been in the scene and devoted to the genre for a long time are not the target market for these compilations.

But surely these people are smart enough to realise this and not quite dumb enough to bitch about a commercial dance compilation designed to be bought by fans of other genres and casual edm fans. Some of the responses to this thread so far have proved me wrong though it seems.


I think the main problem that everyone has here is that MoS used to be aimed at the underground market, but over the last 3 years or so have turned into the usual money-making scam that we've seen all too many of. The last thing we need to get people 'onto the scene' is another organisiation pumping out commercial crap that consists purely of five year-old euro cheese.


Posted by t�bias on Nov-16-2004 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
I think the main problem that everyone has here is that MoS used to be aimed at the underground market, but over the last 3 years or so have turned into the usual money-making scam that we've seen all too many of. The last thing we need to get people 'onto the scene' is another organisiation pumping out commercial crap that consists purely of five year-old euro cheese.


I think that you will find that people buy this music because they like it, not because Minstry produces it. They are simply giving people what they want.

Maybe MoS realised that making albums for the commercial market does not make money. How horrible is the concept of a business looking to make money and not stay true to musical quality?


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Nov-16-2004 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.
We have our own annual for Australia though, don't forget. I think it is a little different to the "main" one from the UK, and it has more Aussie artists on it.

I have to agree that there are quite a lot of commercial, cheesy tracks on there, but i still like most of them It shows all of the biggest tracks for the year......

12. Eric Prydz & Steve Angello - Woz Not Woz


lol wtf plz dont say a rehash of wos not was - shake ya head... plz!!!


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Nov-16-2004 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias


Maybe MoS realised that making albums for the commercial market does not make money. How horrible is the concept of a business looking to make money and not stay true to musical quality?


thats just it tho mate/ mos realised that the commercial market DOES produce the funds.. whack a few chrance [chart trance ] tracks on there that ppl have heard on the radio or mtv, and people lap it up


Posted by t�bias on Nov-16-2004 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
thats just it tho mate/ mos realised that the commercial market DOES produce the funds.. whack a few chrance [chart trance ] tracks on there that ppl have heard on the radio or mtv, and people lap it up


Well I love diversity.

Sasha's Involver wouldn't be near as good if every album was exactly like it. We are quite accepting of different things in this world we live in, because we understand everything has a place, but failure to see why MoS Annuals and the like are great I find funny.

I know that membership into the edm snob club involves not liking commercial or cheesy releases but I am bound to buy this album just to chuck it on when I have people in my car that like other types of music, because even they like this stuff, and its much more tolerable than rock or r&b music.


Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-16-2004 06:06:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias

I know that membership into the edm snob club involves not liking commercial or cheesy releases but I am bound to buy this album just to chuck it on when I have people in my car that like other types of music, because even they like this stuff, and its much more tolerable than rock or r&b music.




Good point and I agree with you here. I can appreciate cheese once on a yearly basis but I still feel this year's doesn't have as many memorable tracks as in years past.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Nov-16-2004 10:00:

Let's face it. The Annuals from the late 1990s were a true reflection of what you would have heard in the MoS over the past year. Now that logic and reason behind the Annual has been thrown out of the window. Would you really have heard DJ Sammy, Divine Inspiration or Angel City in the place itself .......god I hope not


Posted by Streakfury on Nov-16-2004 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
I think that you will find that people buy this music because they like it, not because Minstry produces it. They are simply giving people what they want.

Maybe MoS realised that making albums for the commercial market does not make money. How horrible is the concept of a business looking to make money and not stay true to musical quality?


Well, they realised that making commercial albums does make money, that's why they've changed over the last couple of years. And when you say "people", you're refering to the general music-listening public. What we're all complaining about is that "people" used to refer to us. But once MoS realised they could make more money by selling commercial rubbish, they started selling commercial rubbish.

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
I know that membership into the edm snob club involves not liking commercial or cheesy releases but I am bound to buy this album just to chuck it on when I have people in my car that like other types of music, because even they like this stuff, and its much more tolerable than rock or r&b music.


If you want to go out and buy this compilation, then go right ahead. As long as you like what you're listening to it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. But people dont diss cheese music so everyone thinks they're cool, they diss it because it's crap. If you like crap, good for you. Most here don't, and that's why they're winging about MoS. Because it puts out crap.


Posted by sleepydragon on Nov-16-2004 12:17:

ministry of sound sucks it has done for a long time


Posted by sleepydragon on Nov-16-2004 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by fbgdavidson
Would you really have heard DJ Sammy, Divine Inspiration or Angel City in the place itself .......god I hope not


u probably would hear them now


Posted by XaNaX on Nov-16-2004 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Good point and I agree with you here. I can appreciate cheese once on a yearly basis but I still feel this year's doesn't have as many memorable tracks as in years past.


I can deal with the cheese, as long as its good cheese. You know the cheese that everyone says they hate but they know they listen to it sometimes.

But damn, they have been loading those CDs up with absolute eurodance crap too.


Posted by Abhay on Nov-16-2004 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
I think the main problem that everyone has here is that MoS used to be aimed at the underground market, but over the last 3 years or so have turned into the usual money-making scam that we've seen all too many of. The last thing we need to get people 'onto the scene' is another organisiation pumping out commercial crap that consists purely of five year-old euro cheese.


do u consider.... the "snobs" to be underground?

u know... commercialism is what killed rap... the rap u here now is NOT rap. It's mechanised, mass-produced shit, designed so that ordinary ears like it...

i recon that MOS like stuff will be the only thing left of trance in the future... adn that sux.


Posted by Streakfury on Nov-16-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
do u consider.... the "snobs" to be underground?


What do you mean by "snobs"?? If you're refering to anyone who says commercial music is rubbish, I had this to say earlier:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
...people dont diss cheese music so everyone thinks they're cool, they diss it because it's crap...


Saying that you dislike commercial music doesn't make you a snob, looking like this and acting like a posh twat makes you a snob:



I'm just saying that MoS used to be aimed at the underground market, but over the past few years they've moved towards the commercial side of things. And that's why many members on here now hate them.


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