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Best starting equipment for Trance Production
Posted a thread like this in the 'DJ Booth' section, someone said I should ask about this here too.
As the title indicates I'm looking to know whats the best equipment and what I'd need to start producing trance tunes, the topic in the DJ Booth section I suppose would be for if I wanted to mix tunes, I suppose doing both is an impossibility since I don't have enough money. Suggestions? should I start with one over the other? (I'd like to do both, but time, money, etc. is a factor)
So yea whats the best equipment for a fixed budget (ie. whats the cheapest I could get, but still not lose out on what I'd need?), also a friend of mine does sound editing on his computer so he installed several programs on my computer that I heard "PC DJs" use (Fruityloops, Traktor DJ, Reason 2.5), though I've never used them, they're there for his sake, could I do anything with these programs?
Any help, suggestions, advice - greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
I suggest FL and a nice VST.
Actually some people claim Reason is better but I think FL is easier to use. So start with FL.
Some good VSTi's are described here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&forumid=48&threadid=53370
Traktor is for mixing, not for production. I think it has a problem with its beat sensing algorithm @ higher BPMs - does anyone else have this problem?
get FL and some vst's 
Alright then, I looked at the VST thread, and I checked out Absynth, I'll look into the other ones later, but is there any recommendation among those VSTs?
And you're all sure Fruityloops is the best I should use? And also my stepmom works as a consultant for various computer companies, she could get me pretty much any software I needed (up to an extent), so any real suggestions since money isn't really an issue with software. Any hardware though?
(and thanks for the speedy replies too ...)
Read the damn stickies, we have other things to do than answer this same question 10 times a day.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=152236
absynth is a very specific type of synth. its quite unique as well cuz its half sampler and not particularly ideal as a starting instrument. the interface is confusing. its expensive. and the results are quite dependant on the samples you use. the presets are geared very much towards percussive sequences and atmospherics.
there isnt really any best host or best software to use. there are only programs that achieve the same thing (a song) using different means. some more different than others. fl studio is cheap and its easy to use. ive been using it for a year and im no where near pushing it to its limits. not by a long shot. and there are many professional tunes that have been made in floops. same with reason. ultimately it comes down to whichever working environment you feel most comfortable using. thats the only prerequisite. otherwise you are just making more work for yourself, fighting against an interface which you feel is constantly awkward and illogical.
as for synths. reFX vanguard is cheap. its great. the interface is so well laid out and easy to use that im shocked that nobody else has ripped it off yet. its versatile. it has a built in FX unit (distortion, delay, reverb. none of which are great but feature wise many synths dont have these), arpeggiator and 32 step trancegate (not even dedicated VSTi gates like mgtriggergate have 32 steps). also, its great for producing varied types of sounds. i make nearly all my leads in vanguard or using a combination of vanguard and another instrument (usually linplug albino). i make all of my FX type sounds in vanguard and most of my pads. its not great for tight, clean basses because its characteristically warm and blurry and fuzzy. but for the money no synth does what this one does.
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Read the damn stickies, we have other things to do than answer this same question 10 times a day. |
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| Originally posted by alanzo then why not do them instead of proving yourself an ass |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Because the answers have already been given, damnit. |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Read the damn stickies, we have other things to do than answer this same question 10 times a day. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=152236 |
Its cool, I don't mind his post very much...
So Vanguard is the best software for me to start with, what else should I use to complement it?
I gotta agree with Mystery on this one. There is way to much info on this subject. Refer too the 1000 FL vs. Reason threads out there.
yes but theres no need to act like an ass while you are doing it. good manners isnt exactly hard work. you could just as easily direct someone to the relevant thread rather than get pissed off about it and it wouldnt require any more effort.
I personally would recommend Z3ta+ as the first thing to look into (actually if you want to learn just the very basics, even fruity's own 3xOsc is nice though it sounds pretty shitty), but that's just my personal opinion and i'm in no way an expert in this producing thing
i own both z3ta and vanguard and id say i have a pretty infinite trance studio now.these are both imo the best trance synhs money can buy(software that is) get these two, realy get into them, read the manuals and learn them inside and out so you can can do anything you want them,make them anything you choose.make any sound.i still use presets for sure but now i tweek them to entirely unreconizeable sounds then they were before.and some day i hope to design my own patches.you say you want the best starting equipmwn imo those are the best
i do think zeta+ is an awesome instrument and its gonna be mine this christmas (mwahah!) but it is difficult to program - especially for a beginner! with vanguard, everything is laid out in front of you. its all clean and the layout makes sense and is ordered so that you start modifying the ocillators, then the LFOs, then the filter to get the timbre right, then the envelope to get the dynamic of the sound right, then you pile on the FX. you can follow it in that order and its a good way to learn how to start build instruments. with zeta+ you kind of need to know what you are doing otherwise its a bit of a nightmare. the layout is pretty bad i think, but only because its so feature packed that it has to hide half of itself in drop down tabs and extra pages.
also, although i think linplug albino is another awesome instrument i wouldnt recommend it as a first synth. the mod matrix on that still stumps me completely. i feel like theres half of the instrument i dont even touch cuz it confuses the living daylights out of me.
i would recommend superwave trance pro/superwave pro bundle because it only costs something like 24 quid. the presets are instant trance and most of the stuff i program out of it is detuned saw/ramp leads. it does have a myriad of problems with it - such as the LFO retrigger which is just annoying and the glitch where it plays incorrectly for the first couple of seconds then triggers the LFO. and the filter is temperamental. and superwave dont update anything and barely even support their products. but i never noticed or cared about any of this when i first started out cuz it sounded nifty straight away and it was easy to program. i rarely use it now though
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| Originally posted by alanzo where? The "Best VSTi Softsynths" thread is EXTREMLY outdated.. and the "Read here before you post" thread doesn't talk about the latest VST instruments.. |
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