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Should Djs spice up their live shows?

For all the talk about the death of edm there is little discussion on how this can be fixed.

One key element to sustaining success is attracting new fans and listeners to the industry. One common complaint non-edm fans can have about this form of music is a lack of excitement generated from seeing a guy stand up the front playing records with headphones on.

Rock music fans at least get a group of people jumping around on stage, often dressed up a little, and when you consider the low profile of edm musical artists when compared to other musical performers and the fact that there is often little to differentiate between artists for the edm newbie, the casual dance music listener could be inclined to not feel special or appreciate a decent live set.

This brings me to the huge popularity of acts such as Basement Jaxx and the Prodigy. You would be suprised of the pulling power a dance act with a little bit extra can have.

This makes me wonder why Djs are not more creative with their live performances?

Not everybody gets excited about a web broadcast of edm, especially people that are yet to appreciate this form of music. So why don't producers and artists spend more time being creative with their live shows than sticking to the tried and tested, non-innovative way?

Why are there not more live vocals, more dancers, more than just green lights and lasers?

I would rather EDM remain more about the sound of the music than the silly gimmick that the artist has. All that flashy excitement stuff is supposed to be the responsibity of the people on the dance floor and the people that throw the party.

Thats just my opinion tho,I have seen some DJ's that have gimmicks and do shit during their set in attempt to stand out. That stuff does work and will bring more attention to the person, but it makes for people who get to be really famous musicians but have shit music.


DIE GIMMICKS DIE

if you were a true fan you would not need your dj doing back flips in the dj booth to keep you interested

More Djs need to start actually being musicians.

See: Abelton Live

no they shouldnt, shit gimmicks like this are just that, shit.

Re: Should Djs spice up their live shows?

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Originally posted by t�bias One key element to sustaining success is attracting new fans and listeners to the industry. One common complaint non-edm fans can have about this form of music is a lack of excitement generated from seeing a guy stand up the front playing records with headphones on.

I'd rather dance music wasn't listened to by all these people that follow fashions. i'd rather the listener at least had total interest in the music and not the way the dj looks.

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Originally posted by t�bias Rock music fans at least get a group of people jumping around on stage, often dressed up a little, and when you consider the low profile of edm musical artists when compared to other musical performers and the fact that there is often little to differentiate between artists for the edm newbie, the casual dance music listener could be inclined to not feel special or appreciate a decent live set.

Why do you want dance music to become mainstream. It will oly lead to a decline in quality as every little muppet tries to get in on the act. It's happening with rock music now and it happened with hip hop a while back.

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Originally posted by t�bias This brings me to the huge popularity of acts such as Basement Jaxx and the Prodigy. You would be suprised of the pulling power a dance act with a little bit extra can have.

They are live acts and often release chart hits. whats your point.

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Originally posted by t�bias This makes me wonder why Djs are not more creative with their live performances? Not everybody gets excited about a web broadcast of edm, especially people that are yet to appreciate this form of music. So why don't producers and artists spend more time being creative with their live shows than sticking to the tried and tested, non-innovative way? Why are there not more live vocals, more dancers, more than just green lights and lasers?

Dj's do innovate with their live shows. What about jeff mills exhibitisonist tour or plastikmans new live act.

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Originally posted by t�bias Why are there not more live vocals, more dancers, more than just green lights and lasers?

I think you'll fins dj's don't add vocals becasue a) they can't sing b) they don't produce half the tunes they play and c) oh fuck i've forgot to cue the next track.

lasers are used in clubs worldwide and have been used for over 10 years as far as i'm aware.

dancers - have you ever actually been to a club?

1. More performances outside instead of in clubs( i.e beach).

2. More concert style performance.

3. More women DJ's that that show their ass and tits would make EDM very popular. Think of a Britney Spears or Madonna type DJ

i agree, tobias
it has to be done as a real show

haha i wouldnt mind a DJ that puts a bit of emotion into his set rather than just mix like a statue for 2 hours and go home, cue Chris Lawrence at Creamfields bit of smiling and laughing and clapping along helps!

Spicing up live shows need not be all about tackiness, cheaps tricks or going pop or mainstream.

And I will not bother arguing about the benefits that increased popularity brings for all levels of the edm indutry, and the benefits of getting more people to live acts and people being introduced to the scene. Those that want to live in the 'the more underground the better', 'the less popular the better', 'the more true fans the better', 'people should only attend to appreciate the music' bubbles please feel free to continue to do so as tunnel vision is not my prefered viewing style. re: chesco.

My tip is that the next generation of edm stars will begin to become more creative with their live performances, and venues.

The question is how to push the boundaries a little whilst staying true to the music.

no

there is a definite difference between pvd DJ'ing, and K90 DJ'ing though.

i wouldn't say i enjoy pvd any less tho, even tho he's not normally giving it that much in the way of "WWWWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!"

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Originally posted by Disco_Gibson if you were a true fan you would not need your dj doing back flips in the dj booth to keep you interested

i agree

but i love it when a dj gets into his or her stuff, it makes the live performance that much more enjoyable

Im guessing you've never seen Donald Glaude live?



and the club provides all the entertainment....the go-go dancers, teh lights, the nitrogen freeze effects....the alcohol...



personally I like it how it is.

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Originally posted by Dave Piazza 1. More performances outside instead of in clubs( i.e beach). 2. More concert style performance. 3. More women DJ's that that show their ass and tits would make EDM very popular. Think of a Britney Spears or Madonna type DJ

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good music doesn't/shouldn't need gimmicks

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Originally posted by Konijn Island -- maybe -- no -- no good music doesn't/shouldn't need gimmicks

Yeah but good music is losing popularity, and clubs are closing.

So do we stick with what is traditional, or do we innovate to attract new listeners?

Human beings are naturally against change, as a whole people hate change. People like things to stay the same. But things change it is inevitable. And usually when things change people are quick to say things have sold out and lost their soul, but this is just basic human psychology in action.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps More Djs need to start actually being musicians. See: Abelton Live

abelton live is the key! sasha seem to use it live sometimes now. so does joof. g&d been using it for a while.

as for other shit. no thanks to gimmicks.

well tobias, are you willing to put up with crappy music from somebody that dances around with their tits hanging out while they spin? Would you put up with some charismatic popular chatacter playing breaks remixes of leonard skynrd and scratching with his nose just because a bunch of kids think that its cool?

The music suffers when ppls start coming for the gimmicks, if the popularity dips too much because nobody wants to hear the music, then the music will change to something that attracts a crowd for the right reason.

Im not against gimmicks because I want things to be underground, I'm against gimmicks because it will just make the music worse.

Events outside = awesome

As for the rest of it, i don't really know. I don't like the idea of DJ's becoming "rock stars" ala Tiesto with "Concerts" at stadiums etc

Its quite funny how people automatically seem to assume that I'm recommending gimmicks, cheap tricks and pure taciness by making such a suggestion.

And Zombie0915, no, I wouldn't like to see someone that had a good show but played god awful music. Its not about gimmicks.

I'm sure that world class performers can put something special into their performance other than perfect mixing and good track selection.

The question is how Djs can spice up their performance without it being cheap.

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Originally posted by Disco_Gibson if you were a true fan you would not need your dj doing back flips in the dj booth to keep you interested

That just made my day

All everyone is asking is how EDM can attract new people while still staying true to its roots.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 Im guessing you've never seen Donald Glaude live?

Beat me to it.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver All everyone is asking is how EDM can attract new people while still staying true to its roots.

Its a tough question isn't it?

go watch mark eg if u want ur sets spicing up abit the guys a nut case.
but why do u want it to be all mainstream for? that just sucks the genre will just decline trance is already bad enough as it is

thats one of the things that make edm so good for me....

you dont need an ass jumping on the stage wearing weird clothes to make you feel good and like it. its just the music. thats whats importand... ofcourse i beleve that djs should go in the live remixeng production thing and be more creative (but in the music area)
leave the rest to the club owners and promoters.

more outdoor festivals in walterfalls and stuff would be great tho

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