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Posted by Phanta C 2001 on Oct-16-2001 04:25:

ok...since no one likes sony v700 headphones...

anyone got a pair they wanna get rid of??? ill buy em i want a pair! send me a PM if u have a pair for a reasonable price THANKS!!


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Oct-16-2001 13:12:

My friend DJ Imapact has them and I think they're very comfortable. Im thinking of buying a pair too.
Right now im using Pioneer SEDJ5000s but it never hurts to have another pair handy


Posted by DJ Fien on Oct-16-2001 15:47:

If anyone has a second pair that they are willing to give up, send me a PM My Sony 500's are getting a bit uncomfortable when I mix for more than two hours (something I HAVE to do as I mix progressive...that stuff takes time to construct a halfway decent set).

Too bad they're fairly new....or else I'd trade them in for the 700's.


Posted by Dj-2TaLL on Oct-16-2001 17:30:

i have mdr 500s and i think their fine...


dj fien,
what good progressive tunes fo you have???


Posted by DJ Fien on Oct-16-2001 19:24:

Heh...sorry 'bout that guys - PM sent


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-16-2001 21:06:

DJ Fien, wrong thread!!

Phanta, I'll just resay what I typed earlier, with one edit, which I will mark.

Phanta, you're in luck. The ones I have been preaching about for a month do all of that and more. And, since you are going to be pluging them into a high-end mixer, you are going to need something a little more versatile than just a set of headphones that can only really be used in a club. You need headphones that are good at EVERYTHING.

Therefore, for reasons I have talked about all over this thread and others, I'm gonna have to, once more, suggest the Sony MDR-V6's.

Check out Yahoo shopping for info on the cheapest place to order them, with shipping costs included. They should be well under 100 USD.

I swear. I sound like a broken record...but that's okay.

But, anyways, here's why they are good for each use:

1. DJing in a club: They block out a lot of outside noise, and have a very clear, accurate sound, so you know exactly what you are getting. Also, they can be plugged into questionable equipment and still sound great, without distorting at any volumes. What's more, the bass is deep, impacting, and very clear, so you will always know exactly when it is. Finally, they grip your head tightly, so they won't fall off, and the earcups rotate for one-ear monitoring.

2. Use with a high end mixer: In this instance, you would most likely be creating music, editing it, and you need to know EXACTLY what the recording sounds like, so that it will sound good on any equipment. These give you the clarity, accuracy, and detail for this; these are what the recording industry uses, and trusts.

3. Something to beat match with easily: For this, you need bass that you can both hear and feel, and you always know it is there, even with outside noise or if one earcup is off or at low volumes. Perhaps the V6's greatest strength is it's bass; you always get the physical impact, you always hear it, and the bass is VERY tight and accurate. For beatmatching, you are using the bass as basically a clock, and the V6's do not distort the time, like some headphones. Also, if you ever want to decide to give character to your bass, make it sound more than a thump, make it a wham or sound like an instrument (by adding sound in the frequencies 2 khz to 5 kz to the beat, for example), the V6's will let you do this, unlike SOME headphones that are VERY depressed in those frequencies. Plus, since they are so clear, you can always hear the bass, even at low volumes (something that many think you need boomy bass to do; this is not true). And, here's the special thing about them. ****EDIT IS HERE*** If you put a signal of boomy bass into the V6's, that is exactly what you will hear through them. If you put a signal of tight, controlled bass to them, that is what you will hear. If you want to beatmatch with some extra-low bass (lower than the usual 60 HZ, for example), you will be able to hear it to beatmatch with it. For beatmatching, you need HONESTY. In both sound and feel of the bass...Which is what you get with the V6's!!! ***END EDIT***

4. You can pick up a set of Sony MDR-V6's online for $75 plus shipping. Lower if you buy them used, or off of ebay (or you can steal them from your local radio station or TV station, which no doubt uses them. Just kidding, don't steal em, but they probably DO use them.) Look for them in professional music shops, and audio stores, as well; you probably won't find them at Best Buy, because they are Sony's little secret.


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-16-2001 23:23:

quote:
ok...since no one likes sony v700 headphones...


I am no big fan of those DJ headphones, as you will see in the thread that I started about my REAL opinion about the so-called "DJ" headphones. Too many "audiophiles" have described the Sony V700's sound as "boomy" and "muddy". My definition of "boomy", as I have made clear, is "the ENTIRE low end has been overboosted, smearing detail in that range in the process". The Sony V700's are far from "boomy" to my ears - if anything, I'd describe the V700's bass as "much too tight" for the audiophile good. That is, a narrow portion of the mid-bass is so peaky while leaving the rest of the bass relatively untouched - a fragile situation that can eventually lead to listening fatigue (and often, a loss of control at frequencies near where the V700's peak is focused on). Many people described the treble of the newer "bionetic" open-air Sennheiser HD 5## series headphones that way, leading to the comment that those Senns are "waaaaaay too bright".

I'd second Gluegun's recommendation for the Sony V6's. But if you can't find that model ANYWHERE, then go for the Sony 7506's - cheaper and better-sounding than the V700's, IMHO.


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-17-2001 03:28:

And not only is the bass on the Sony MDR-V700DJ's is much too tight for the audiophile good, it's also too tight for their own good!

Sony, your idea of a "cool looking, great-sounding" DJ headphone looks great on paper, but you just don't have anywhere near enough experience in properly executing that idea in the manufacture of those DJ headphones.


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-17-2001 20:30:

Shadyslim, I think you have trouble communicating.

From what *I* have heard, what you should be saying is "the midbass is boosted and boomy, the area of the midrange that gives character to the bass is extremely depressed, and the deep bass is extremely depressed." So, like, instead of saying that the deep bass is tight, you should be saying it's nonexistant. Bass that isn't there and bass that is well-defined are two different things, and, while you seem to know what you hear, you have trouble communicating it.

Just a thought....do you think I'm right?

Personally, I would rather have something that has both exaggerated midbass and exaggerated bass (UR-20), rather than just exaggerated midbass and no bass (V700).


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-17-2001 22:41:

(Copy of other post)
Gluegun, have you really heard them? I prefer to have absolutely NO mids, NO bass and NO highs whatsoever!!!

Oh, BTW, I meant the mid-bass (not the deep bass) on the V700's are peaky.


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-17-2001 22:53:

Oh, boy! painful sarcasm!

:P

Anyways, let's continue this on either one thread or the other, you know?


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-17-2001 23:01:

Let's stick to the subject matter. I won't make any more posts in this thread unless I have to answer another so-called DJ's request.


Posted by Max2LC on Oct-19-2001 02:40:

Arrow ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

OK
SLIMSHADY & GLUEGUN !!!!!!
YOUR BOTH THINKING LIKE PROFFESIONALS !!!! AND YOU ARE....BUT NOT AT DJ'N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHEN YOU SPIN, YOU DON'T NEED LOW BASS (WHICH V700'S DON'T have).

STOP Scaring people away !!!!!

let's face it

--------
A) V700'S AREN'T THE BEST HEADPHONES IN THE WORLD
B) THEY ARE GOOD FOR DJ'N
C) THEY AREN'T VERY GOOD IN PRODUCING
D) THEY ARE OK AT REMIXING

SO STOP MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT THEM !!!
IF YOUR MIXES SUCK, DON'T BLAME YOUR HEADPHONES.....KEEP ON PRACTICING...........


Sincerely,
Maxik


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-19-2001 03:19:

Dude, we argue for discussion's sake, and because we disagree, and because we're bored, mostly.

It's kinda self-contained actually. In fact, I'm sure it's actually entertaining to some. And, anyways, if anyone asks about headphones, we can give them advice, and argue over what to tell them, which can be even more educational.

But, yea, SS and me are the kind of people who *always* reply if there is a new reply, even if neither of us has anything important to say.


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-19-2001 04:10:

And guess what? Even the best of the "big-name" DJs make dud mixes (e.g. those with somewhat mismatched beats) every now and then...


Posted by Narcissus on Oct-19-2001 18:40:

I'm using Sony MDR V500 and I think it's doing a fine job as my first pair. I really wish I could try on what other headphones would feel like on me. The thing is the Technics 1200 Headphones which can adjust to fir your ear(s) and head perfectly without you having to keep it pressed on your head and they look pretty comfy to me. Whenever I'm mixing on these headphones sometimes I press them against my ears and I couldn't hear with the other ear perfectly so I loosen it out a bit and then the beat starts to fall out of place. Then I'd have to quickly push them back up and I lost my track on twisting the knobs on the mixer and well .. everything just burns down. Then again.. I've only been mixing for a couple of months so I'd say I'll save up the rest of my complaining on the headphones and get back to my practice.

ps:- After all that was mentioned i love my pair of headphones anyway.


Posted by boy_luke_y2k on Oct-19-2001 21:44:

Cool

I love my v700s, U can get them at uk.yahoo.com shopping for �85 including P+P!


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-20-2001 00:04:

Um, Narcissus, that's one of those "DJ-features" I talk about the V6's having... you know, a tightly secure but comfortable fit for one-eared monitoring? And BKY2K, you can get the V6's for $50 USD off of Ebay, or $80 USD online... why would you pay so much more for something worse? These are the most versatile headphones on the PLANET...


Posted by DJ Teknique on Oct-22-2001 16:44:

i got a pair of V600 and they sound as good as 700 to me.
mhy friend has V700 and i don'tthe fact that they kind big...maybe i'm used to 600s???


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-22-2001 19:37:

DJ Teknique: Huh? I didn't like the V600 at all. There is almost NO bass whatsoever in those cans! The depressed upper-midrange, combined with the recessed bass and excessive echoing resonances within their large earcups (which BTW have way too much empty air space within), make you turn up the headphone volume WAY up just to hear any beats whatsoever. As a result, the V600 is actually one of the worst headphones to DJ with. DUH!

As for your assumption that the V700DJ's are bigger than the V600's, that's a big lie. The V600's are actually bulkier than the V700DJ's - and within those larger earpieces of the V600's, the drivers used in them are actually smaller in diameter than those used in the V700DJ's.

In short, if I am on a strict $100 budget for headphones to spin with, and I want a Sony, I definitely would have picked the MDR-7505 over the MDR-V600!


Posted by Gluegun on Oct-23-2001 01:12:

Shadyslim, can I have your promise only to slam a member of the MDR-VCRAPDJ line whenever someone actually MENTIONS them? As in, only slam them during a direct reply where someone actually SAYS something about them, or at least mentions their name? Please?


Posted by ShadySlim on Oct-23-2001 03:16:

Gluegun, my most recent post in this thread is only in reply to the poster just before my latest post - he mentioned the V600, which he said were "as good as the V700".



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