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What type of Specifications

I am looking to purchase some tbales and a mixer, i have an idea in roughly what makes but when looking for something mainly for trance maybe a little house what sort of specifications am i looking for? I do plan to take it further but at the start its practice with simple beatmatching, i don't think i would end up scratching as mainly you do that in hip-hop which im not too fond of.

Technics and a decent mixer.

If you have any sort of decent income, then dont waste money on imitators. Get techs and do it right. If you decide to quit, you can sell them for very close to the price at which you bought them. Cheap decks will not sell for much.

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Originally posted by nrjizer Technics and a decent mixer. If you have any sort of decent income, then dont waste money on imitators. Get techs and do it right. If you decide to quit, you can sell them for very close to the price at which you bought them. Cheap decks will not sell for much.

Why?

And don't give me the usual "industry standard" crap.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Why? And don't give me the usual "industry standard" crap.

I agree. While I prefer Technics, I have friends who can work Numarks just as well, putting down quite the nice mix with them. It's all about how much money you have, and whether or not one is able to adapt to something that does not work as well as another, not "omfg industry standard." A DJ should be able to adapt to whatever equipment s/he is given.

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Originally posted by nrjizer Technics and a decent mixer. If you have any sort of decent income, then dont waste money on imitators. Get techs and do it right. If you decide to quit, you can sell them for very close to the price at which you bought them. Cheap decks will not sell for much.

Im sorry but just because technics are industry standard doesnt mean we need to buy them, there are plenty turntables matching to the technics just are not used by every club and such so theyve not gained industry standard. I think you also misread im looking towards what specifications i need to look ina turntable and mixer at minimum for trance/house.

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Originally posted by JKBlaze Im sorry but just because technics are industry standard doesnt mean we need to buy them

No but it makes things a lot easier if you do.
Why buy a skoda with a porsche bodykit (numark/gemini/stanton) when you can buy a ferrari (technics) or lamborghini(Vestax) for similar cash?? Why make things harder for yourself and waste money in the process.
Im not saying you MUST buy them by any means- but they are the recognised long standing industry leader and standard for a lot of very very good reasons, and you would be a fool to NOT buy them just for the sake of being different or trying to prove a point.

Anyway- far too many threads on this- and i cant be bothered tio go through it AGAIN






As for the mixer:
To learn all you need is two faders and a headphone socket- even the most basic mixer will have these.
I saw a 4 input mixer with kill switches sell on ebay for under 2.00uk pounds yesterday- thats all you need to learn. I know this, as it was the exact same mixer i learnt on (and am currently selling on ebay for a little more than 2.00) and it was perfectly adequate.

To learn you do not need to spend vast amout of cash on technics this ortofon that and vestax whatever.

Yeah don't listen to the "get Technics or die" crowd. Get them if you can afford them and like them, otherwise look around, as there ARE other nice tables out there, despite what some of these guys say.

Specifically, I have the Numark TTX1, and they have just as much, if not more torque than Tech 12s, as well as a bunch of other features (up to 50% pitch range, reverse, line and digital outputs, and some other useless features like key lock and BPM counters). The Stanton STR8-100 and STR8-150 are supposedly pretty good. Vestax has some good TTs too.

For a mixer I (along with most of this message board) would recommend the Vestax PCV-275.

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Originally posted by cheesy Specifically, I have the Numark TTX1, and they have just as much, if not more torque than Tech 12s.

Well they do have more torque Technics 1.5k vs Numarks TTX1s 3.7k, but honestly, the Techs have all that you need for mixing, I ain't saying that 3.7K is useless, I'm sure there are DJs that take advantage of the torque, but I really don't see why some companies are putting all this torque into these motors, like the new Geminis, soon they'll have to measure motors by foot pounds of torque.

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Originally posted by DannyO soon they'll have to measure motors by foot pounds of torque.

yea, they're likely to take off your finger someday when you're trying to make adjustments.

Well i've been looking into things a bit more today, i think i may have a cheap pair of TTs that will do for learning on. I've talked with someone thats been using them for quite a while (over a year)and he says there good to learn on, also been looking at a few details about them they have the same layout as SLs. I do plan to upgrade when i get myself a decent job, so as theyre similar to SLs i could probably upgrade to SLs and be able to use them straight away. The TTs come ina pack with the basics i need accept headphones will need to eb better, only thing is now is to find a decent mixer.

If anyone can help me on the mixer Please Click here I can go upto �80 and as you see it ads the ammount onto the package, i wont mind a quality mixer that will last when i start doing otherthigns as when i have the money probably the TTs will be the first to be upgraded. I want to try and avoid BPM counters as they would probably be soemthign id not stop looking at and i dont want the easy way out of learnign by ear, so i guess thats the behringers gone.

Any help will be appreciated.

Belt drive tables are gonna be harder to learn on but easier in the end. You usually build up better technique w/ the tables when you have to learn on crappier equipment. Figure out a budget of what you can afford (not what you think you can afford, or want to get). Go from there, you don't need anything fancy in a mixer, nothing fancy really in headphones. I can't reccomend anything as I have techs, and always had them.

Well i may have decided on the turntables but in the psot of mien before this there is a alink to a page of mixers, im lookign for soemone to make a suggestion on one upto �80 that will lasta couple of years and will allow me to go further with techniques until i can afford upgrades.

Get this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....ssPageName=WDVW

This was a standard club mixer at the tail end of the 90s, very very highly regarded and has ever feature you could need including some you dont. His rrp is wrong- it cost nearer 700 quid in 1996.

I use one of these at home myself- and would glady take it in to work and use it in place of some mixers i encounter in some venues. I could buy myself an allen&heath or a vestax if i wanted, but i dont want to. This has everything i need.

It also has a retro cool factor to it and works bloody well. Decnt spec and various good things with it i wont baffle you with the technical facts
I do this for a living and know my mixers- i would not recommend this mixer to you if it was pony!

If auction has ended by the time you read this, mail the guy and offer him 50 or 60 cash - i bet he will take it. I paid 52 for mine- bit of a bargain.

Apparently gemini, numark and stanton mixers don't last a few years.
but they have mixers in that price range.

For just a few bucks extra you could get a vestax vmc-002 or pcv-002 , according to what I've read (and I've read a shit load) vestax seem to last for years. or you could go for gemini or numark super cheap mixers range and they should prob last till you have enough to get something that will.


I hate it when someone tells me to have a few bucks extra... it's so annoying... I coulda had some decks years ago if it wasn't for saving.

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Originally posted by Freak Get this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....ssPageName=WDVW This was a standard club mixer at the tail end of the 90s, very very highly regarded and has ever feature you could need including some you dont. His rrp is wrong- it cost nearer 700 quid in 1996.

Forget what I said... GET THAT.

GET IT !!!

Well at the moment im waiting for sale of my PS2 and Gameboy Advance, after christmas hopefully i will have a decent budget to buy some equipment. This is why im only lookign for ide aon mixers and not ebay auctions.

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