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Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-24-2004 17:52:

Is trance still trance?

Luke - "is trance still trance?"
Yoda - "Ooooh. Good question young jedi..."

I'm listening to Amp Radio Classic 6 Hour Special on 2HP.ca Radio- which is full of trance from days gone by (2002 and earlier).

Good question loosely based on a comment that Jon Jon made a week or so ago:

Trance today doesn't really sound all that trancey.

Yes yes, I understand the evolution of a sound, etc - however listening to these tracks and comparing to what is being put out today - I have to conclude that very little trance is actually being produced today.

I'm still rasslin' with what exactly the current sound is and how it should be defined - but it's less and less "trance" as time has gone by.

Talk amongst yourselves (coffee-talk).

Posted by Tordan on Nov-24-2004 18:05:

True... trance these days is either proggy or techy but I ain't complaining because that's the way I like it.

So is this the end of TranceAddict?

Posted by Wurm on Nov-24-2004 18:06:

For the most part, there seems to be less of a journey, more immediate impact.

If that makes any sense.

Posted by RobbyG. on Nov-24-2004 18:07:

hmmm....good question

Posted by jon jon on Nov-24-2004 18:29:

Re: Is trance still trance?

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Good question that Jon Jon brought up in a thread a week or so ago:

hah Jon Jon, love it.

Trance still exists, Tiesto, PVD, etc etc etc. That is trance man. Even that new Oakie Creamfields disk, fuck there are some serious synths in there.

I think I was saying less that trance is dead, more that prog is in a beautiful place at the moment. (I kept making reference to "the big sound" at the moment) I think Prog has finally turned into a sound that could destroy the mainstream. A perfect formula of grimmy yet much more danceable and upbeat.

techno + electro = le sound dujour

Don't believe me?

re:
Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont remix)
Mylo - Drop The Pressure (Felix da Housecate remix)

If those songs don't make you shit your pants, you have problems. I got tired of trance, end of story.

Posted by bARTovsky on Nov-24-2004 18:44:

maybe the trance of today is what trance Really is, and the trance from yester-years was in fact the humble beginnings of it. What I mean is, maybe now trance has actually grown into the sound it always should have been...?

Posted by Dancing*Queen on Nov-24-2004 18:57:

Re: Re: Is trance still trance?

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
re:
Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont remix)

mmmmmm loving that track atm

Posted by samhouse on Nov-24-2004 19:32:

hmmm
trance has evolved...but it is blasphemy to think its not trance anymore.

Posted by Funkyfun on Nov-24-2004 19:33:

Trance is still the same like yester years if one can manage to get their hands on good productions....the difference today is the amount of trance being produced which is affecting the quality of productions and the classification of evrything being produced as trance ....if u go back a few years almost evry trance labelled track that came out was a pure trance production and would take u on journey even if ur not high ...good solid trance that deserves to be played in a set or given a second listen is hard to find these days imo....

Posted by the_sauce on Nov-24-2004 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by bARTovsky
maybe the trance of today is what trance Really is, and the trance from yester-years was in fact the humble beginnings of it. What I mean is, maybe now trance has actually grown into the sound it always should have been...?

if thats the case i am glad after the evolution of trance i have stopped listening to trance...."the beginning of trance"...as you have put it, i find to be more trance then today...back before 2002 trance was a lot more euphoric...

Posted by TheVrk on Nov-24-2004 19:40:

to me, proper trance is what oaky was playing mostly
back in his hey-day - 98ish or so.

now what we call trance i'd associate with above & beyond's sound

Posted by bARTovsky on Nov-24-2004 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Funkyfun
....almost evry trance labelled track that came out was a pure trance production and would take u on journey even if ur not high ...

hmm... u mean to say less "thumping beats" and more "melodic"?

thats makes sense, alhough alotta AVB's new stuff is still pretty melodic IMO...

Posted by Richard Taylor on Nov-24-2004 19:49:

Trance to me is emotion music that takes me on a trip. 'Trance' sounds different today, but it still does the same thing for me. It takes me to my happy place, and gets me excited, and brings people together.

BUT, I find a lot of today;s releases are more musical, and less relying on percusion builds and simple synths....It's definitely changed, and the substance, or purpose behind it remains the same for me..

My 2 cents...

Posted by b4k-oz on Nov-24-2004 19:53:

Trance is still trance. It's just going through a phase...evolving and getting better

U'll see....it's gonna come back stronger than ever, and it's gonna blow our minds away.

But first....we gotta do something to get the people deprogrammed from mainstream, hip pop and crap muzik...........that stuff's just not right

Posted by bARTovsky on Nov-24-2004 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by b4k-oz
Trance is still trance. It's just going through a phase...evolving and getting better

U'll see....it's gonna come back stronger than ever, and it's gonna blow our minds away.

But first....we gotta do something to get the people deprogrammed from mainstream, hip pop and crap muzik...........that stuff's just not right

+1

Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-24-2004 22:43:

The classic trance sound - thanks to DJ Ampz and Amplified Radio and his episode 216 show.

Posted by Funkyfun on Nov-24-2004 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by b4k-oz
it's gonna come back stronger than ever, and it's gonna blow our minds away.

i think it needs to go back underground and become a less commercial commodity

Posted by Jem_hadar on Nov-24-2004 23:32:

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, at werk! CANT!! (((

Posted by Funkyfun on Nov-24-2004 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
TUNE INTO THIS CLASSIC STUFF! WOW!

can the stuff be relayed on 8080 instead of 8624 or does the software make u use that port only...u do know that if it becomes a firewall friendly port....u will also be able to capture the work audience thus extending the reach of 2hp.ca radio...lol

Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-24-2004 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Funkyfun
can the stuff be relayed on 8080 instead of 8624 or does the software make u use that port only...

I am investigating a solution.

Posted by Funkyfun on Nov-25-2004 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I am investigating a solution.

nice RJ...btw do u have a link or a doc on how the cable radio stations are ripped....like ets does for ASOT....been lookin for a whitepaper but not having any luck....

Posted by trancechaos on Nov-25-2004 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 24_7
Trance to me is emotion music that takes me on a trip. 'Trance' sounds different today, but it still does the same thing for me. It takes me to my happy place, and gets me excited, and brings people together.

BUT, I find a lot of today;s releases are more musical, and less relying on percusion builds and simple synths....It's definitely changed, and the substance, or purpose behind it remains the same for me..

My 2 cents...

quote:
Originally posted by b4k-oz
Trance is still trance. It's just going through a phase...evolving and getting better

nicely put, i couldnt agree more

Posted by DigiNut on Nov-25-2004 01:27:

Re: Re: Is trance still trance?

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
I think I was saying less that trance is dead, more that prog is in a beautiful place at the moment. (I kept making reference to "the big sound" at the moment) I think Prog has finally turned into a sound that could destroy the mainstream. A perfect formula of grimmy yet much more danceable and upbeat.

techno + electro = le sound dujour

You must be thinking of house music, because prog sucks just as much now as it did years ago.

Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-25-2004 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Funkyfun
nice RJ...btw do u have a link or a doc on how the cable radio stations are ripped....

Just put the radio tuner output into the sound card input and viola...

Posted by DJ_Ampz on Nov-25-2004 01:42:

I think "trance" is a general term now. and you cant associate it with one style. When you say "trance" you mean the basic feel, but you have different subgenre's. With TA, everyone has their favourites and for the MOST part, most ppl are accepting of their favs. Here is MY opinion of the breakdown (in general terms, from one extreame to another:

Hip Hop / Euro

House / Break beats

Trance is:

Progressive (Sasha, diggers? ~im honestly not sure, not my thing...yet who knows)

Prog-Trance (Markus Schulz)

Melodic Trance (Freezel from ETS, Tiesto's in search of sunrise series)

Uplifting (A&B)

Anthem (Ferry)

Hard (Kai Tracid, Cosmic Gate)

Outside:
Techno (Carl Cox, Deko-Ze)

Hard Style

Just my idea. Their is other stuff im missing too. oh and for sure the LINES ARE ALL BLURED LIKE YOUR ON E

Ampz

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