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Anti-Bullying wristbands
I'm not sure if this has come up while I'm away, but it's a pretty decent cause, and it's free
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onelife...shtml?wristband - get ur own blue anti bullying wristband here.
I dunno how many here have had problems with it in their life, but I had an awful lot of it, inc it all starting from a teacher when I was 10 who hit me and put me down cos he was jealous of how clever I was so he held me back & turned ppl against me, so the cause is a good one imo, its pretty much ruined my life to make me what I am now and other ppl don't deserve to have to go thro it in this day & age, so support if you can spare 2 mins 
I've got one ordered - it'll go quite nicely with my Livestrong band.
It's a very good cause - get one today and keep that awareness level rising.
Unfortunately im siding with some of the views raised on the nu-g board .. in that these bands are no more then fashion accessories .. wearing an anti-bullying band might seem like a good idea to show your support against it .. but it wont stop bullying will it?
Unless you suddenly believe that if the nation starts wearing them then parents/governors/pupils/etc will suddenly speak out and try to do soemthing about it instead of sitting around and shaking their heads? I somehow doubt so ..
Dont like to quote people much but i think this sums it up ..
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| Originally posted by Rijs I've got one ordered - it'll go quite nicely with my Livestrong band. |
Cru54d3r makes a good point. Showing that you are anti-bullying by wearing a wristband will achieve very little. A bully isn't going to stop bullying because someone somewhere is wearing a fashion item which says what 90% of the population already know and agree with. It would be much better to give your money to anti-bullying charities who will spend the money on action.
while I understand what you've said Adam, I know there are some who see it as more than just a fashion accessory and who will wear it for a long time even when the cause gets forgotten for some other hyped thing for the celebs & wannabes to jump on, and to me it's something important
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| Originally posted by Cru54d3r Unless you suddenly believe that if the nation starts wearing them then parents/governors/pupils/etc will suddenly speak out and try to do soemthing about it instead of sitting around and shaking their heads? I somehow doubt so .. |
Cru54d3r, you seemed to have missed the point on this one.
I said that it will go quite nicely alongside my Livestrong band, but not in the terms of it being a fashion accessory, but in the terms that I support these charities. I wear my Livestrong wristband because I support the cause. Since I was young, people within my family have been dying because of cancer, so I'm pretty sure that I'm in line for it sometime within my lifetime. I've paid my money to the charity and I wear my band with pride, hoping to increase awareness.
The same can be said about the anti-bullying wristband. Surely if people wear them it's raising awareness, which is the main aim of the project. So yes, people will stand up and people will take note. It's not going to stop bullying, but it's going to help. When bullies see their 'idols' with an anti-bullying wristband, perhaps it'll convince them that bullying isn't acceptable and it certainly isn't funny.
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| Originally posted by Rijs Cru54d3r, you seemed to have missed the point on this one. I said that it will go quite nicely alongside my Livestrong band, but not in the terms of it being a fashion accessory, but in the terms that I support these charities. I wear my Livestrong wristband because I support the cause. Since I was young, people within my family have been dying because of cancer, so I'm pretty sure that I'm in line for it sometime within my lifetime. I've paid my money to the charity and I wear my band with pride, hoping to increase awareness. The same can be said about the anti-bullying wristband. Surely if people wear them it's raising awareness, which is the main aim of the project. So yes, people will stand up and people will take note. It's not going to stop bullying, but it's going to help. When bullies see their 'idols' with an anti-bullying wristband, perhaps it'll convince them that bullying isn't acceptable and it certainly isn't funny. |
How can you side with me regarding the Livestrong bands, and not the anti-bullying bands? They're both using the exact same concept to raise awareness. Livestrong bands will not stop people from getting cancer, the same as the anti-bullying bands will not stop people from being bullied, but it's the fact that, by wearing them, people are raising awareness.
The purpose of these bands, you ask? To educate and to push forward to issue. It doesn't take much to place it on your wrist in a morning, but perhaps that's where the genius actually is. Instead of having people sit down and write longwinded letters regarding bullying, people wear the wristbands, making the same point to politicians and to schools.
You seem to claim that the bands will have little effect, but, surely it's doing something. I didn't see everyone complaining about how they were bullied at school as openly as I have during the past few weeks. A prime example, right there, of what this campaign is all about.
If it's a fashion accessory, then perhaps it pushes the point even further, because there are so many people wearing them?
Like I've said, the few thousand bands will raise awareness; look at the media coverage of the bands already. People will stand up and take note of these - for either their intended purpose, or as being a fashion accessory, but even if the latter, there's still the campaign relating to bullying behind them.
Again, they're not going to end bullying once and for all, there are people who feel that to make themselves feel better, they have to put others down, and that's always going to be the case.
But, like I said, and I'll say it once again because I feel it's a good point, Livestrong bands will not stop cancer, nor will anti-bullying stop children being tormented unwarranted, but, at least it's doing something to raise the profile.
doesnt the donation from purchasing a band go towards anti-bulling charity's? if so, thats going to directly help stamping out bulling, even if wearing the actual band doesnt.
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| Originally posted by Rijs How can you side with me regarding the Livestrong bands, and not the anti-bullying bands? They're both using the exact same concept to raise awareness. Livestrong bands will not stop people from getting cancer, the same as the anti-bullying bands will not stop people from being bullied, but it's the fact that, by wearing them, people are raising awareness. The purpose of these bands, you ask? To educate and to push forward to issue. It doesn't take much to place it on your wrist in a morning, but perhaps that's where the genius actually is. Instead of having people sit down and write longwinded letters regarding bullying, people wear the wristbands, making the same point to politicians and to schools. You seem to claim that the bands will have little effect, but, surely it's doing something. I didn't see everyone complaining about how they were bullied at school as openly as I have during the past few weeks. A prime example, right there, of what this campaign is all about. If it's a fashion accessory, then perhaps it pushes the point even further, because there are so many people wearing them? Like I've said, the few thousand bands will raise awareness; look at the media coverage of the bands already. People will stand up and take note of these - for either their intended purpose, or as being a fashion accessory, but even if the latter, there's still the campaign relating to bullying behind them. Again, they're not going to end bullying once and for all, there are people who feel that to make themselves feel better, they have to put others down, and that's always going to be the case. But, like I said, and I'll say it once again because I feel it's a good point, Livestrong bands will not stop cancer, nor will anti-bullying stop children being tormented unwarranted, but, at least it's doing something to raise the profile. |
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| Originally posted by Coup doesnt the donation from purchasing a band go towards anti-bulling charity's? if so, thats going to directly help stamping out bulling, even if wearing the actual band doesnt. |
As ste has just mentioned .. the reason for my difference in opinion between the two bands is due to the fact that the livestrong bands
a) have to be bought .. thus contributing to cancer charities and research ..
and b) cancer affects many people .. even those who have never smoked etc .. whereas bullying is a problem that is actually created (by a minority) .. cancer happens naturally ..
I mean if you took a hardline view of the matter and did everything feasible to wipe out bullying it could be stopped alltogether .. assume for a minute that punishment was reintroduced to schools .. perhaps persisting bullies could be sent off to bootcamp for their holidays (lol ok bit extreme ..) but still the point would be that bullying would ineffect cease to exist ..
On the otherhand cancer cant be stopped that simply .. as such i dont see anything negative in a person donating to and not only supporting but raising awareness to help defeat cancer so hopefully in the future some of us wont have to suffer from it ..
I also think your missing the point that i made with parents tackling bullying with correspondence with the school .. letters dont have to be longwinded .. a personal meeting can be arranged .. bullying has been around for a while now .. its a shame i feel that it takes a band on someones arm for awareness levels to be raised .. as for people talking about how they were bullied .. well i fail to see how yet again that help those kids now being bullied at school ..
fashion accessories come and go though .. as for people standing up and doing something about it .. well what about those who already have done so in the past? are they to be discounted?
On the whole ive probably taken a very pessimistic outlook on these bands i agree ..
The suggestion of anti-bullying charities .. well even if some contributions were made .. which they aint as the bands are free .. once again i feel to see their possible use .. most victims of bullying will never come in contact with a charity to help them out .. I guess that depends somewhat on the level of bullying .. but im sure quite a few of us here had gone through some bullying or knew someone that had .. and most stuck to themselves and didnt look for any help to sort it from a charity .. at best perhaps their parents or maybe a teacher ..
Livestrong bands do require payment, however, even though the anti-bullying bands do not, the awareness that they create may have the same effect, i.e. people donating.
I don't have time to respond directly to all of your points, but I'll say this. Increased awareness will mean that more people will talk about their past experiences (as I've seen happen), because of this, people being bullied will feel that it's not something that they have to hide from people or be ashamed of, in turn letting family members/teachers know about the problem, who can do everything in their power to stop it from happening.
We've all raised valid points, but whereas you're on the pessimistic side of the argument, I'm at the other end of the scale.
I fail to see how such a campaign can have a negative, or, as you're suggesting, no effect on the situation.
well as the bands are free i see little point to them. no offense but i dont think theyre going to achieve alot, due to the points mentioned above.
thats all im saying, im not getting drawn into this discussion big style 
imagine a world where geeks can be free at school. 
fuck that! some of them need to be told
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| Originally posted by Technaut imagine a world where geeks can be free at school. fuck that! some of them need to be told |
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| Originally posted by Ste and robbed of their dinner money for skag? |
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| Originally posted by dj_cuba Cru54d3r makes a good point. Showing that you are anti-bullying by wearing a wristband will achieve very little. A bully isn't going to stop bullying because someone somewhere is wearing a fashion item which says what 90% of the population already know and agree with. It would be much better to give your money to anti-bullying charities who will spend the money on action. |
Alot of bullies do it because they think it is "cool" to bully. So if the bully sees that favourite footballer (Thiery Henry has one for example) or pop star is wearing the bands that stand against what they are doing, then it has the chance to make the bully realise that it isnt "cool" and stop.
Plus they raise awareness towards the problem so they may not directly prevent bullying but more people will know how to spot it or give the person who is bullied more confidence to do something about it.
order one regardless, sell it to people in the states on ebay.
Cru54d3r is right...The bands are purely fashion accessories...I could possibly see the point if you had to pay for them and the money went to a charity or whatever...But they are free and are being "advertised" by using big celebrities/footballers names which is simply making them seem "cool" to be seen in rather than their "real" purpose...This is such a typical English thing and people just eat it up...I lose more and more respect for my country each day!
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| Originally posted by RubiK Cube Alot of bullies do it because they think it is "cool" to bully. So if the bully sees that favourite footballer (Thiery Henry has one for example) or pop star is wearing the bands that stand against what they are doing, then it has the chance to make the bully realise that it isnt "cool" and stop. |
i saw a try-hard on the bus on friday, he was wearing both bands.
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| Originally posted by Ste i saw a try-hard on the bus on friday, he was wearing both bands. |
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