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Is there an efficient way to fix warped vinyl and make records flat?

sit on it iv never heard of a way to fix warped vinyl, i think it maybe gone for good...

The only good idea I've ever heard was to stick the record between two panes of glass, then lay the whole sandwich down flat in the oven and turn it on low for a little bit till it's squished flat again. If you do it carefully you can do it without ruining the grooves (apparantly)... probably a delicate process though.

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Originally posted by nrjizer The only good idea I've ever heard was to stick the record between two panes of glass, then lay the whole sandwich down flat in the oven and turn it on low for a little bit till it's squished flat again. If you do it carefully you can do it without ruining the grooves (apparantly)... probably a delicate process though.

people try this, or so i have heard, if its SO bad you cant play it at all anymore, or its worthless, I say be mean and sell it on ebay, or try the glass idea

I personnaly wouldn't do the glass thing. Unless toy put a towel or such like between the glass and record. What your looking for is the towel to go into and suppot the grooves while still putting pressure on the record.

I've previously heated up records and used the towel and books method to make them work.... in some cases... other to make them not work and infact be worse.


Btw love your sets CKYTEP.

Actually yes, I forgot about the towel part.

If the record is unplayable anyways... try it. What do you have to lose?

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Originally posted by Dervish I personnaly wouldn't do the glass thing. Unless toy put a towel or such like between the glass and record. What your looking for is the towel to go into and suppot the grooves while still putting pressure on the record. I've previously heated up records and used the towel and books method to make them work.... in some cases... other to make them not work and infact be worse. Btw love your sets CKYTEP.

I'll take my chances and try this tomorrow.... thanx a lot, and its awesome that you took time to listen to my mixes... i appreciate the support

......bend it.

Melt it down, simmer for 20 min on a low heat, add one medium onion (optional)

Make sure you tell us how its turns out

i heard 2 methods, leave it under a HUGE pile of books for weeks, months or years and over time it will flatten. or the more controversial method already mentioned
lay it between 2 panes of glass on a really warm summers day and the heat and weight will flatten it out, but leave it for too long and it will be fucked up worse, personally id try the first method. what vinyl is it anyway?

how badly warped is it?

i have the same prob with one of mine

Tiesto - Forever Today / Love Comes Again - the red one in the Just Be Vinyl pack...

special to me cus the only plce i can find that is on the internet and i found it at a record store this summer when it just came out...

anyways, its alittle bent at one part, still plays fine, its just not flat anymore...

kinda reluctant to try and bake a record flat

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Originally posted by Exodus17 how badly warped is it? i have the same prob with one of mine Tiesto - Forever Today / Love Comes Again - the red one in the Just Be Vinyl pack... special to me cus the only plce i can find that is on the internet and i found it at a record store this summer when it just came out... anyways, its alittle bent at one part, still plays fine, its just not flat anymore... kinda reluctant to try and bake a record flat

Its pretty bad thats why i'm asking... there is a big hill on the outside of the record

As long as it does not skip, does it really matter?

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Originally posted by 3xx3r7 As long as it does not skip, does it really matter?

Sure it does. Hills on the record and them being warped will affect the overall pitch of the record. This means that it will not sound good when being mixed because the pitch will waver as it travels over the hill.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. Sure it does. Hills on the record and them being warped will affect the overall pitch of the record. This means that it will not sound good when being mixed because the pitch will waver as it travels over the hill.

I have records that are warped and i play them all the time, cant hear shit, unless its so extreme that the needle has trouble staying in the track. I remember seeing John'00' here in vancouver, you should have seen the condition of some of the records he was playing, seriously so many of them were fucked.

same with mine about the hill on the outside... thats exactly what it is...

still, theres no noticable change in pitch that ive found

if it is noticable then find a way to fix it

for me its more of a not liking the fact that ive got a bump on the outer edge of the record rather than a performance issue

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Originally posted by Special_K ......bend it.

Works every time for me with my slightly warped records.

Bend it the opposite way to the warp a few times. But make sure you do it slowly, as it will break (has happened to me once) and it should last long enough for you to cue up and mix the record.

Do this each time you use the record, as it will bend back after a while. I don't think there is a lasting way of fixing warped records unless you actually heat them up.

I'd recommend either one of these two methods.

1. If you have a cd turntable then you can simply transfer your vinyl over two cd...no more warped dilemma. Albeit it is a very expensive way to tackle warped records!

2. Before I got my cd turntables, the best way I got round my warped records was to brush/skimming the platter and the pitch fader to get the tune beatmatched. Once it is beatmached & with some careful timing, you brush/skim the platter accordingly when cueing.

Using this method gives you more control over your warped record and is a much better alternative than touching the warped plastic!

jns.

There are professional places you can have it done. It just depends on how rare valuable the record is.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver There are professional places you can have it done. It just depends on how rare valuable the record is.

this is true. also on the topic of bakin it, i was told not to put it directly btwn the glass. the magic number is 5 minutes in either oven or sun. however, the towel idea doesn't sound half bad except if it gets hot enough i would assume it would kind of absorb the shape of the fibers or even stick. with glass i would also assume that if it stuck slightly you could just stick the whole thing in the fridge and it would come off like that. although if it sticks to anything i'm think youv'e comprimised sound quality so it doesn't matter. iv'e got two records that could use it and i'll try it tonite.

this summer i left two vinyls out in the sun and they got super f'ed. i just tried baking my seriosly seriously warped 4 strings "diving" 12 inch using the following method...

13 inch cookie sheet
paper towel
vinyl
paper towel
13 inch cookie sheet

bake for 10 min @ 175 degrees and let cool.
AND THE RESULT IS (drumroll please)....

a perfectly flat vinyl! no shit it really really works. if i had a digital camera i'd show you a picture. however, the cookie sheets i used were perfectly flat. i had a few sheets with warps in them so i decided against those. plus i also put two ceramic baking dishes on top of the whole thing durring both the cooking and coool down to weigh it down. i'm assuming its more important for the cool down. be careful tho its pretty hot! just call me martha mixmaster stewart.

How is the cueing up of the records? Cos I'd recon that would fuck the tracks up big style esp with much weight on. Also it might depend on the orig quality of the record too cos some would be able to stand that but for example a promo might not. Just a thought.

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Originally posted by Dervish How is the cueing up of the records? Cos I'd recon that would fuck the tracks up big style esp with much weight on. Also it might depend on the orig quality of the record too cos some would be able to stand that but for example a promo might not. Just a thought.

word i thought of that too. however the vinyls i tried it in on i wasn't worried about so i just f'ed around with it. the second one i tried i left in for a little too long, about 15 to 17 min. the paper towel left an imprint on the very edge of the vinyl on both sides. it now makes a slight hiss for about two revolutions of the platter. with the first attempt at 10 min it doesn't get hot enough to actually press into the vinyl and distort the track. it just heats it up enough so it will relax into a flat position. the sound quality on the first attempt kicks ass. i forgot what a bichin bassline it has.

Could this maybe be stickied? If what GT357 says is correct, then this will be important info for the forum. I know I have seen this come up on 5 or 6 unique threads (one of which I started). Its great information!

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