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Numark TT-200's

what are ppls opinons on Numark TT-200's? been using them for a few months now and i think they are awesome, but with never having owned turntables before these i have nothing to compare them to only my mates technics but thats unfair lol. so any thoughts and or opinions?

One Year, no problem and love them!

I played with one at guitar center last week and it seemed nice. Probably gonna get a pair for x-mas.

they are great beginner's decks. decent power, and they look nice too. obviously, they wouldn't match up to a tech or vestax etc, but they are not supposed to. probably one of the better decks in the price range.

getting one for christmas, will comment in a couple months

got a pair, think there great

i was expecting a barrage of hatred here lol!!!

ive had mine just over 1 year now, and i absolutely DESPISE them

theyr the first pair ive bought myself but ive used my m8s stanton str8 60s a lot (YES! HOW FUCKIN OLD R THEY NOW!!)as well as technics.. and they r 1 MILLION times easier to use and FAR better pitch control!!!

i cant even beatmatch the tunes properly on my numarks most the time, coz the slightest knock on the pitch adjust as ur moving it, and u throw the whole fuckin thing out

seriously none of u people have this problem?!

i think their fuckin cheap an nasty plastic SHITE!

gimee stantons or techs anyday! thats wot am gettin A.S.A.P as soon as i find some1 willing to take care of these poor pieces of shit

*I WILL NEVER B BUYING NUMARK AGAIN*

sounds likt you had a tt1650?

now they are cheap plastic crap.

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Originally posted by tu_face sounds likt you had a tt1650?

I've got 1650s, I can beatmatch fine.


I think you are just shit.

And coming from me, thats saying something.



Yes, they do fluctuate in pitch a fair bit, but you can still do longish mixes with no problems, and you get really good at fixing errors quickly. To say Technics are 1 million times better is not much of a comment, of course they are 1 million times better, they are much better and much more expensive. Thats like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes.

I'm not saying they are good, they are pretty shit, but if you can't beatmatch on them, well...............

Thast directed at ScAza, not you tu_face, despite the quote

hehe, i used to have tt1650's too. you are right, they are great to learn on, they are still plastic and shit though.

but yeah, if you can't put a mix together on them then you need to practise more..

all decks fluctuate in pitch, even technics. where the money goes is on the motor so it fluctuates less. with techs, it can be as little as 0.015% (it averages around 0.025%), whereas with the cheaper decks (e.g. tt1650) you are looking at more like 0.25%. so in reality, technics are not a million times better, more like 10 times better

FIRST PERSON.. i can read.. i am not 6, i know wot i bought, and what i wasted so much hard earned �� on...

2nd PERSON:

dont judge my DJing u arrogant tit, coz u hav never seen or heard me play?!?! idiot.

perhaps i got a dodgy pair, even tho they were new, i dont know coz mine r the only tt 200s ive ever used. i used stantons (of aparently "lower" spec) and technics too tho, an i mix perfectly on them everytime. u hav said u hav 1650s NOT 200s. so why say so categorically that im wrong anyway?!?!

i never said i cant beatmatch on them i said "most the time i cant do it properly" (as in "perfect"), because of the SHITE pitch adjust.

my point about the "million times better thing" is just to illustrate that for about �300 more (about 2 weeks wages at the time), i could hav held out for a pair of top o the range techs or stantons, and had NONE of these problems, and not have to replace my decks after only 1 year. why is that such a useless comment?

ive been doin it 3 years and am not shit, im not big headed about my DJin but i'm FAR from shit

whoa, calm down big fella.

The 1650s are of lower spec than 200s (1600<1650<200<500
Correct, I have never heard you play. But when you say you "Can't beatmatch properly", I took that to mean you struggle to beatmatch, not struggle to be perfect. Yeah, it is hard to be perfect on them, but thats part of their character. Every time I play on mine, it is an adventure, without a doubt.
I do agree with everything you have said about them, their pitch control is crap, their motor weak, and obviously Technics are going to be better, thats why they are much more expensive (especially over here) and why they are the industry standard etc etc, it was just that one comment about beatmatching I interpreted wrong.




And yes, I am an arrogant tit.

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Originally posted by scAza FIRST PERSON.. i can read.. i am not 6, i know wot i bought, and what i wasted so much hard earned �� on... 2nd PERSON: dont judge my DJing u arrogant tit, coz u hav never seen or heard me play?!?! idiot. perhaps i got a dodgy pair, even tho they were new, i dont know coz mine r the only tt 200s ive ever used. i used stantons (of aparently "lower" spec) and technics too tho, an i mix perfectly on them everytime. u hav said u hav 1650s NOT 200s. so why say so categorically that im wrong anyway?!?! i never said i cant beatmatch on them i said "most the time i cant do it properly" (as in "perfect"), because of the SHITE pitch adjust. my point about the "million times better thing" is just to illustrate that for about �300 more (about 2 weeks wages at the time), i could hav held out for a pair of top o the range techs or stantons, and had NONE of these problems, and not have to replace my decks after only 1 year. why is that such a useless comment? ive been doin it 3 years and am not shit, im not big headed about my DJin but i'm FAR from shit

calm down calm down..

my original comment was more of a jest, because if you think tt200's are plastic and horrible, you aint seen nothin yet. perhaps you may have been able to get better decks, but the fact of the matter is your experience with the tt200's has made you a better dj. i had tt1650's (a worse deck may i point out) for 2 years, they arn't THAT bad that you cry over the money you spent.

wow didnt expect a big argument from this, lol. anyway iv had mine around 2 months and am becoming very compotent at beatmatching so i think theyre not that bad to use. whats all this about fluctuation? and does anyone know much about the pitch on them e,g is it really sensetive or do u have to be heavy handed with it to hear a differnce? im not too sure on this cos i can only compare them wiv technics and thats not fair..

you have to make very small movements with it in order to get it spot on, although you will never hear the difference anyway unless you move it 0.5% or so..

the fluctuation thing, the pitch will fluctuate slightly when you leave the deck playing, even on a high end deck like a vestax or technics. although the amount it fluctuates by is drastically smaller on a high end deck, this is what you pay for. these fluctuations arn't much of a big deal though, you just have to make adjustments a bit more often (not on the pitch fader, by pushing the record or whatever).

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Originally posted by tu_face you have to make very small movements with it in order to get it spot on, although you will never hear the difference anyway unless you move it 0.5% or so.. the fluctuation thing, the pitch will fluctuate slightly when you leave the deck playing, even on a high end deck like a vestax or technics. although the amount it fluctuates by is drastically smaller on a high end deck, this is what you pay for. these fluctuations arn't much of a big deal though, you just have to make adjustments a bit more often (not on the pitch fader, by pushing the record or whatever).

ah thanks very much, knowing that it takes only slight movemnets i should become even better

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Originally posted by tu_face these fluctuations arn't much of a big deal though

Except when it happens mid mix..........

Like I said, its their character, and you get good at making corrections. Mine are second hand 1650s, so have had a fair bit of use, and the fluctuations are really noticable sometimes, but new ones wouldn't be that bad. I don't know if there is any difference in motor between 1650s and 200s, if there is the 200s would be better.

The pitch alterations, yeah you gotta be slight, but once or twice when I make a big change (like 0.5 or more) it takes time for the motor to catch up, like I'll raise the pitch, and not until after will the platter actually spin faster, but thats probably a wear and tear thing.

But as I've said before, I knew i was buying entry level and from what I had read before i bought them I thought that I wouldn't be able to play at all, that's crap. They are better than i was expecting and not as bad as many people would have you believe. I think they are really good for a beginner, especially if they are not taking it seriously, have a limited budget (both of which are my excuses), or don't know if you'll like it.

yeah there is a difference on the motors, the tt200 has 2kg of torque (tt1650 has 1kg) and they have a wow & flutter rating of <0.2%.

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Originally posted by scAza i was expecting a barrage of hatred here lol!!! ive had mine just over 1 year now, and i absolutely DESPISE them theyr the first pair ive bought myself but ive used my m8s stanton str8 60s a lot (YES! HOW FUCKIN OLD R THEY NOW!!)as well as technics.. and they r 1 MILLION times easier to use and FAR better pitch control!!!

I'm just amazed you think the str8-60 is a much better deck... I use to own a str8-60, 80, and 100. The POT's resistance would always change on the str8-60 and i had to calibrate it almost weekly. And speaking of plastic shit, the tt200 doesn't nearly have as much plastic as the stanton deck. Also, when i played w/ a tt200, i actually found it's pitch to be pretty acurate.

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Originally posted by dj chex I'm just amazed you think the str8-60 is a much better deck... I use to own a str8-60, 80, and 100. The POT's resistance would always change on the str8-60 and i had to calibrate it almost weekly. And speaking of plastic shit, the tt200 doesn't nearly have as much plastic as the stanton deck. Also, when i played w/ a tt200, i actually found it's pitch to be pretty acurate.

well i dont think my m8s had to do stuff with his decks like that and he definately didnt weekly , as far as i know. i guess its just different strokes for diff' folks maybe?! but i seriously hate my decks hearing u all defend them so much makes me think maybe i really did get given a dodgy pair the reviews i read before gettin them wer 90% very positive too!

i think il just make sure i buy the top o the line decks for my next pair, and hopefully wont have any trouble for a good few years...

i've found a shitload of reviews on this link: http://www.djstore.co.uk/cgi-bin/it...em=numtt200&t=r

it seems like more people have the same problem with pitch, but most seem to recommend it too

Speaking (not literally ) from a owners point of view i would say they are the best decks that you can start on with a low budget in mind.

Yes, all those review about the pitch being very sensitive is very true & as Tu Face said you only have to touch it a tad to get it beatmatched.

After owing them for a year this xmas i have run into the problem of flucations knocking out of sync with the track your mxing though a quick correction with the pitch & your sorted, though this is after like a 1 hour 30 mins after using them.

I'm going to get shure whitelabels for them this xmas as i've still got the shitty groovetool cartridges. I want to try a bit of scratching & love hearing good quality sound so the whitelabels help there.

At the start of next year i intend to upgrade either to mk5g, ttx1, str8150 or the pdx2300 because i want to step it up a gear with djing!

funny how there's only one who has a problem with the tt-200's... I've got a pair, for the money it's a good buy. if it can hold it's pitch, it's good imo.

!!

I 1st bought TT-1600's the torque was horrible. I then later bought tt 200's I love them good torque.

Althought I might someday get technics, I am really really thinking about moving into Final Scratch.

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