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1210 MK5G vs. TTX1 ??

Hey there, was hoping to get some personal opinions on these two tables. I have a pretty econimic set now (SA-600II) and was looking to upgrade. It just seems like the techs are based on rep and the ttx's have more for the buck?
thanx for weighing in

Well as far as i can tell The ttx looks much better if you are looking at doing alot of scratching and stuff because it has ultra high torque but if you are just mixing techs are supposed to be top quality and very long life

i think the ttx1 is much better value for money, but the technics are better than the numarks on build quality. if you are looking to scratch, the ttx1 is probably your better option, as they have the interchangable tonearm so you can choose between straight and s-shape arms, plus the torque factor. the ttx1 also has the fast pitch settings which are great, and something that the technics lack, although the numarks way of doing it isn't as good as some other ultra-pitchesque decks.

even if you are just into mixing i found the ttx1s better than the technics because you can perform corrections in ur mix with great precision using ur hands on the platter (which is very difficult to get right on technics.) i owned a pair of ttx1s but i sold them for my m5gs. you may think ive just contradicted myself. well the reason i sold em was because im startin to DJ out. if you have the same intention then do not get any other turntable other than technics. you will want to be good on them. when switchin from ttx1s to technics i went from very good and mixing to an utter n00b. 2 weeks later and im still finding my feet but im gettin pretty good again

If you want to play out it will be on Technics. My main DJ specialization is turntablism and honestly you can do any scratch you can do on a TTX1 on a 1200. If you really like the TTX1s alot then get them.

true, but if you want to learn to do this stuff, its harder to learn it on a 1200, simply because of the tonearm setup.

True, its a little harder but you're going to be expected to do your scratch routine on some Techs if you get good enough.

very true

why don't technics make a straight arm deck?? it seems a bit daft to me. oh wait, i know why, its because the design team are the laziest bastards on the planet.

Either way, i still perfer the S arm over the straight arm.

which is one great thing about the ttx1, the choice

Same here. If I could switch over to an straight arm I wouldn't. They work just fine as s-arms. Maybe if I got a 3rd deck I could just use that for scratching and mix on the other two I'd switch over to a straight arm.

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Originally posted by tu_face why don't technics make a straight arm deck?? it seems a bit daft to me. oh wait, i know why, its because the design team are the laziest bastards on the planet.

Theres a mod you can do to your Technics to make them interchangeable, from straight to S shaped.

CH CH CH Check it.

ooo, interesting. another one to add to the list of things that should already be there

I've seen a lot of comments about techs being The TT in clubs and if you aim at that get Techs.... same ol' same ol'
i'm not quotting cos its nothing personal, but
I don't buy it.
I own a Tech and a TTX. I've been learning wit'em and gotten pretty good. My 1rst 2 and only TTs. And I've never had a problem of being better w/ one table or the other. I got the hang of both and enjoy it. Two different tables and no related problems.

Which one is better??? whatever
If I should buy a 3rd, which would it be??? the cheapest

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Originally posted by don_q I've seen a lot of comments about techs being The TT in clubs and if you aim at that get Techs.... same ol' same ol' i'm not quotting cos its nothing personal, but I don't buy it. I own a Tech and a TTX. I've been learning wit'em and gotten pretty good. My 1rst 2 and only TTs. And I've never had a problem of being better w/ one table or the other. I got the hang of both and enjoy it. Two different tables and no related problems.

this is explained by the fact that you are used to using both regulary.. if you had only a pair of ttx1's, you would have to spend a few minutes readjusting to technics.

i have 2 vestax decks, and 1 technics.. before i bought my 3rd deck, i always had a 5 minute transition period where i couldn't mix it when i couldn't mix particularly brilliantly on techs (it was nothing to be bothered about, just 5 minutes to adjust the way you work the deck). now i have a tech to use as well as the vestax, i find i dont have that transition period, i can mix straight away with techs.

i personally don't see this as a barrier to playing in clubs or anything, its not that big a deal.

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Which one is better??? whatever If I should buy a 3rd, which would it be??? the cheapest

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Originally posted by Basstard even if you are just into mixing i found the ttx1s better than the technics because you can perform corrections in ur mix with great precision using ur hands on the platter (which is very difficult to get right on technics.) i owned a pair of ttx1s but i sold them for my m5gs. you may think ive just contradicted myself. well the reason i sold em was because im startin to DJ out. if you have the same intention then do not get any other turntable other than technics. you will want to be good on them. when switchin from ttx1s to technics i went from very good and mixing to an utter n00b. 2 weeks later and im still finding my feet but im gettin pretty good again

simple solution for ALL decks.. ride the pitch, and dont touch the platter.. I have been trying to make this my routine for a while now, and the mixes seem to be alot smoother.. wish i have started this in the beginning.

Jay

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Originally posted by veezee simple solution for ALL decks.. ride the pitch, and dont touch the platter.. I have been trying to make this my routine for a while now, and the mixes seem to be alot smoother.. wish i have started this in the beginning. Jay

Totally agree. You can tweak the pitch much more precise than screwing w/ the platter. Thats the problem w/ lots of people including me. They get used to touching the platter than adjusting using the pitch. Then when they spin at a club, some decks may feel different and throw everything off. (like old stinky, 12year old techs that has been used as a ash tray and cup holder)

riding the pitch is not very good when done with the ttx1s because of the delay when changing the speed.

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Originally posted by Basstard riding the pitch is not very good when done with the ttx1s because of the delay when changing the speed.

i never heard of that problem w/ ttx's before.

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Originally posted by Basstard riding the pitch is not very good when done with the ttx1s because of the delay when changing the speed.

I don't have any delay on mine...

^^
...me neither

double you tee eff??

you guys are tellin me there isnt a half second delay when u change the pitch on the ttx1s?? i had it and plenty of other TAs have mentioned it.

^^
never noticed it. And I only use the analog outputs. Was your problem with any output. I could imagine the digital could have this problem

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Originally posted by don_q ^^ never noticed it. And I only use the analog outputs. Was your problem with any output. I could imagine the digital could have this problem

The pitch delay he's describing would affect the speed that the platter turns at(a delay in the increase of platter speed). This wouldn't be affected by the output selected, which only deals with what happens after the signal goes through the needle into the TT. I haven't noticed this delay with my TTX-1's, though.

This is a gd topic for me as i'm planning on upgrading from my TT-200's at the start of next year to either the TTX1'S or the MK5G but i'm on 2 minds about both of them.

I think with the TTX1 the price is defiantly justified as to the features it has got though with the Technics your just paying for the look, build of it, reputation of it being the longest in the game & prestige of owing it!


Yea & that is true about getting the Technics if you want to play in clubs so you know the in's & outs of the deck but.... the TTX1 has more toque to play around with & the fact that you can do see the bpm...

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