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Until I Rise (Album) - DJ Coleman (Coming Summer 2005)

Hi all, been along time since i have been on here. Reason why i'm producing a new album Until I Rise, coming summer 2005. Its very very nice, i got the intro done, and many many people love it. Its going to be on my site this weekend for preview.

The album why it will be available summer 2005, is that i want to spend great time on it. I got very very powerfull synths now, and nice programs.

To get the latest on the CD go to http://www.dj-coleman.com which is going to fully change soon into a new design.

Thats the latest update from me.

-DJ Coleman

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Maybe you should focus on the production bit more rather than getting all these "powerful synths" and "nice programs"... just a thought.

"I'm currently making a new remix. On what song i don't know. But its going to be a really neat song. I cannot wait untill it comes out!"

I might be stupid, but I found this quote to a bit odd!

why the tardiness?!

you ought to have informed us of this back in 2001 or so

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Maybe you should focus on the production bit more rather than getting all these "powerful synths" and "nice programs"... just a thought.

hahaha

thread starter, good luck onyour album, also, try and produce like 1 and half times as many tracks as you can fit on one cd
that way you can choose which ones are best

also i listened to some tracks at your webpage, tbh, it sounds really amatuerish. the percussion is pretty weak. you need to get better samples and use some fx on those. the synths are weak too, are you using any fx on there (like reverb or filter or chorus or whatever). i did a search, looks like you posted some stuff in the other section, but yea, based on hearing your stuff, it sounds like you just started recently. with that said, you should be concentrating and improving your production techniques instead of trying to release an album in six months and starting on it now. becuase in six months, your production skills can improve greatly, and you will be dissatisfied with what you have made for it already. i know, because i was trying to make an album earlier this year and i even made enough tracks and shit, and i look back on the album, and at the time when i made all those tracks, they sounded good to me, because it was the best i could do at that time, but now they are no good to me anymore. why? because i practiced and got better. they were a learning tool and that is probably how you should treat your songs till you improve a bit more. dont take this as i am shooting you down, but yea, work on the production techniques, because "very powerful" synths dont make your song automatically good. i use the same vsts now that i used in january, and if you heard any of my songs from back then and now, you will notice a difference, and its not the synths so much as my production techniques. hope that helps or something

btw, no matter how good you think your song is, its not good enough until someone else asks you if you are going to send it to labels =)
(provided that you show other people), which you should do, because other people see flaws in your music that you wont.

Maybe.. b/c those songs were done in July... and i have gotten a ton better. I havn't put anything on my site yet... i'm planing too. My new intro is very very nice though . I'll let you all know.

coleman, I'm not gonna hate on you kid, but starting a thread to say you're making something is pretty dumb. Thats like me starting a thread saying I am going to be mixing a new cd soon. So what? When I mix it, then I will post it. I am not going to advertise something 6 months away -- especially if all I got is the intro done.

I thought you were done with the noob postings.

end of rant.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** also i listened to some tracks at your webpage, tbh, it sounds really amatuerish. the percussion is pretty weak. you need to get better samples and use some fx on those. the synths are weak too, are you using any fx on there (like reverb or filter or chorus or whatever). i did a search, looks like you posted some stuff in the other section, but yea, based on hearing your stuff, it sounds like you just started recently. with that said, you should be concentrating and improving your production techniques instead of trying to release an album in six months and starting on it now. becuase in six months, your production skills can improve greatly, and you will be dissatisfied with what you have made for it already. i know, because i was trying to make an album earlier this year and i even made enough tracks and shit, and i look back on the album, and at the time when i made all those tracks, they sounded good to me, because it was the best i could do at that time, but now they are no good to me anymore. why? because i practiced and got better. they were a learning tool and that is probably how you should treat your songs till you improve a bit more. dont take this as i am shooting you down, but yea, work on the production techniques, because "very powerful" synths dont make your song automatically good. i use the same vsts now that i used in january, and if you heard any of my songs from back then and now, you will notice a difference, and its not the synths so much as my production techniques. hope that helps or something btw, no matter how good you think your song is, its not good enough until someone else asks you if you are going to send it to labels =) (provided that you show other people), which you should do, because other people see flaws in your music that you wont.

This is a great post. I think this should be a sticky in all the promotion forums.


I feel the same way about my Dj'ing as you do about your production work. I look back at some of my older mixes and I say to myself ' I could have done this better' or 'why did I use that track' or 'that was shitty' or ' fuck only if knew what I know now' etc. But I think by putting yourself out there you learn shit about yourself and your work that you couldn't if you wait and wait until that perfect moment. Why? In my experience I think you start to become even more aware of your work once its out in the public than if where just on your computer

Obviously all of us want to impress people immediately but I think we will find greater reward in our future success when you struggle and work hard to be your best.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. coleman, I'm not gonna hate on you kid, but starting a thread to say you're making something is pretty dumb. Thats like me starting a thread saying I am going to be mixing a new cd soon. So what? When I mix it, then I will post it. I am not going to advertise something 6 months away -- especially if all I got is the intro done. I thought you were done with the noob postings. end of rant.

i agree.

What's with the title of the cd? It sorta reminds me of that Tupac album a few years ago entitled "Still I Rise".

the title of the thread should be "Until I Record"

ok to all.. i was just posting this... i'm going to be putting alot, if u want to know how much time i spend on this stuff last saturday i speant 16 hours! Why do you guys hate me???

no hate man.

Just think about what youre doing. I explained myself earlier. Its not a good post, you got called on it -- its not a hate thing.

It's not that we hate you, we just question your credibility. I say this because of the way you came across in your initial posts back when you first registered. First impressions are very important. That, and you keep going on and on about your website and how good your production work is, and unfortunately the three remixes you did so far aren't as "hot" as you make them out to be. If I were you, I'd listen to some of the responses on here. There is some great advice and criticism you should read.

As for this thread, I agree with the rest of the posters. This thread would be more suitable 8 months or so from now, if and when your cd is actually complete.

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Originally posted by DJ Coleman Maybe.. b/c those songs were done in July... and i have gotten a ton better. I havn't put anything on my site yet... i'm planing too. My new intro is very very nice though . I'll let you all know.

ok well im sure you are much better now (im definitly sure). however, you should show your work to more people, the more people that critique it, the more errors you will find and therefore in future productions, you will avoid them. i remember making the same mistake after the next and not knowing it, until someone pointed it out, and there went my album down the drain, haha. i mean i wasnt trying to release it, but ya. you can think of everytrack you make like you are learnign from it, and try new stuff in other tracks, like automation with the fx and stuff like that. 16 hours is quite a long time. but experience is key here. songs take many edits and shit before they are complete, and im not sure, but probably a good, 3-4 weeks before they are release quality. anyways, show some of your new stuff, so you can get advice. they worst thing you could do is make the whole thing by july without showing anyone and sending it to labels.

dj intrigue really hit the nail on the head with his post

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue It's not that we hate you, we just question your credibility. I say this because of the way you came across in your initial posts back when you first registered. First impressions are very important. That, and you keep going on and on about your website and how good your production work is, and unfortunately the three remixes you did so far aren't as "hot" as you make them out to be. If I were you, I'd listen to some of the responses on here. There is some great advice and criticism you should read. As for this thread, I agree with the rest of the posters. This thread would be more suitable 8 months or so from now, if and when your cd is actually complete.

i mean its good that you are excited about your productions. when i made my first song that i shared on here, i thought "wow, how can i make anything better than that" but over the past year with help from others and advice and posting a lot of stuff, its really helped me know what and what not to do when producing. but like i said in the other post, its not meant to bash you, but just advise from me about stuff i learned since i started producing, which helped big time. yea, so keep at it, and show your stuff on the forums, but dont overdo the complements of your own songs, because then people listen to it, and they would think this guy is a joke. just a post like, here is a new song i am working on, can i have some feedback to make it better would be better than, yada yada yada its a nice piece of work or something. remember all the producers have gone through making a song, and feeling like its teh best thing they made and its release quality only to get a bunch of comments about how to fix it. believe me, the first song i had someone ask if i was going to send it to label, i was surprised that they asked, so wait for someone to ask you, and it will feel good. =)

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Originally posted by Dave Piazza This is a great post. I think this should be a sticky in all the promotion forums. I feel the same way about my Dj'ing as you do about your production work. I look back at some of my older mixes and I say to myself ' I could have done this better' or 'why did I use that track' or 'that was shitty' or ' fuck only if knew what I know now' etc. But I think by putting yourself out there you learn shit about yourself and your work that you couldn't if you wait and wait until that perfect moment. Why? In my experience I think you start to become even more aware of your work once its out in the public than if where just on your computer Obviously all of us want to impress people immediately but I think we will find greater reward in our future success when you struggle and work hard to be your best.

yea, that is how it happened when i first started mixing too. stopped the mixing when i started producing, cuz i think producing is like 100x more fun that spinning, hell of a lot harder to get good at though

Tell you what all... i will put my new intro up.. this is a intro nothing big, i still made everything, even made some of the sounds . Enjoy

http://www.dj-coleman.com/intro.mp3

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Originally posted by DJ Coleman Tell you what all... i will put my new intro up.. this is a intro nothing big, i still made everything, even made some of the sounds . Enjoy http://www.dj-coleman.com/intro.mp3

the link is busted, hehe

works now.. i had to upload it

http://www.dj-coleman.com/intro.mp3

unless you are going for the non release style on the pads. i would say up the release a bit more so they blend together nicer. maybe put the attack up a little bit too, just a very little though. see this is better than your other stuff. maybe at 108, you want to fade in that synth a little longer, so it doesnt sound so abrupt. also use a reverse crash too. percussion definitley sounds better. that melody coming on at 130 is good you should make it louder though. its too low. the bassline is really weak. if you are doing it on fruity loops, you should add a fruity blood overdrive to it, and put a subbassline as well to give it more power. better than that other stuff you made thats for sure. are you going to make this song longer? maybe you might want to finish it and share it in the amateur producers forums to get more feedback. producing is fun huh? especially when you improve.

btw, i cant tell cuz the bass is so low, but are you changing the bass notes or ar eyou leaving it at one note. because you should try changing it, like repeat it twice on one note, and then go up a nother note, you can do it with 3 or 4 or however many you want, it might be harder to get it sounding in tune with the rest of teh songm but definitly at least make it change one note

OMG give meh feedback to0o. i'm only a kid also and i want feedback... ahahah.... no seriously i know i suck, but i want feedback

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Originally posted by DJ Coleman ok to all.. i was just posting this... i'm going to be putting alot, if u want to know how much time i spend on this stuff last saturday i speant 16 hours! Why do you guys hate me???

I dont think anyone hates you, they just think youre a gimp.


procute them all in the court of law.

Listen to Hadi...he is giving you good advice. I don't care for the intro, but what do I know? Whatever makes you happy Coleman.

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