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Posted by Azz3D on Dec-02-2004 11:05:

Giambi on juice

I Knew it all along...
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylh=X3oDMTEwd...gtY3Nz/s/214578

cheating bastard
as well as
bonds & sheffield


Posted by Omegasox on Dec-02-2004 15:20:

As if it wasn't blatantly obvious. I don't know why he publicly denied it when he had to testify, he knew it would get out eventually.


Posted by Azz3D on Dec-02-2004 16:07:

The truth about bonds will come out eventually too... he's a lying s.o.b and everyone knows it.

then his records will be erased...
mays, ruth and aaron will be happy, and as will the rest of the world...


Posted by Shamez214 on Dec-03-2004 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Azz3D
The truth about bonds will come out eventually too... he's a lying s.o.b and everyone knows it.

then his records will be erased...
mays, ruth and aaron will be happy, and as will the rest of the world...


His records may be erased in yours and everyone elses MINDS, but they will not be erased in the books.


Posted by Omegasox on Dec-03-2004 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
His records may be erased in yours and everyone elses MINDS, but they will not be erased in the books.


Steroids or not, it doesn't affect his bat speed, and his bat speed is just insane. Giambi is an overrated piece of shit, but if Bonds is shown to have done steroids, I will still consider him the most frightening player to face of all time (Not necessarily the best!)


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Dec-03-2004 03:12:

it's about time that dumbass testified about his steroids .. and then he has to be a chicken, and drag his brother with him (jeremy) .. even though it may look like jeremy came out himself, you know jason begged him to take the fall with him .

remember that season when jeremy giambi had a big year .. nothing ever since .. same as jason ..
those dumbasses are going down, and no one will hire them again..


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Dec-03-2004 04:24:

Giambi using steroids was obvious prior to his actual confession.
There was so many guys who were doing steroids all through the 90s, just like the entire MLB it seemed was on crack in the 80s.
I think most of the people who were on steroids have either stopped completely in the past few years,or rarely use it today.In the 90s guys like Jay Bell and Caminiti became huge and hit tons of homers out nowhere.Theres alot of people who you can compare to those guys.
As for Bonds Im pretty sure he s done it too, but maybe during the 90s when everyone else did it, and not recent.He has the best bat speed in the majors.that helps.
Also dont forget steroids are not only for batters,Pitchers have been known to use it too.
The MLB needs to worry about on how to get across to kids in high school that steroids isnt the answer.


Posted by PhloTron on Dec-03-2004 06:07:

Barry Bonds Testimony Transcripts are out according to the SF Chronicle...

...He says during 2003 his trainer, Anderson, provided him with Clear and Cream...which at that time he didn't know were steroids.

So, now it's out that he took steroids, though he said he didn't know they were products w/ anything other than the nutritional subs that he was already taken at that time...blah blah blah...

Who knows, I don't have the transcript/article...but am just seeing this now on ESPN.


Posted by verndogs on Dec-03-2004 15:54:

there should at the very LEAST be two asterisks next to his records

one for being juiced

one for being an asshole


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Dec-03-2004 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
there should at the very LEAST be two asterisks next to his records

one for being juiced

one for being an asshole

I agree
+1


Posted by Shamez214 on Dec-04-2004 03:10:

You can't put an asterisk next to his name because, technically, steroids were not illegal to use in the world of baseball. They may have been illegal to use and possess in the real world, but it wasn't until 2003 (I believe) when they became illegal in baseball as well.


Posted by verndogs on Dec-04-2004 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
You can't put an asterisk next to his name because, technically, steroids were not illegal to use in the world of baseball. They may have been illegal to use and possess in the real world, but it wasn't until 2003 (I believe) when they became illegal in baseball as well.


we'll still have that one asterisk for him being an asshole


Posted by Shamez214 on Dec-04-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
we'll still have that one asterisk for him being an asshole


Wanna throw one on Ty Cobb's name as well?


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Dec-04-2004 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Wanna throw one on Ty Cobb's name as well?


really?? ty cobb was an asshole???
if you really want an asterik for being an asshole, i heard lew alcindor (kareem abdul-jabbar) is a really big one .. i heard he is very close-minded and gripes at everyone ..


Posted by verndogs on Dec-04-2004 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Wanna throw one on Ty Cobb's name as well?


already there


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-06-2004 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
really?? ty cobb was an asshole???


Rent the movie Cobb. It's a good movie too.


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Dec-08-2004 00:52:

speaking of asterisks lol I found this ESPN article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page...oenfield/041207


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-08-2004 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI
speaking of afterisks lol I found this ESPN article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page...oenfield/041207


I guess that settles it then.


Posted by Shamez214 on Dec-08-2004 04:19:

It's true though. People who talk about asterisks and whatever don't really understand that you'd have to asterisk nearly EVERY stat. Back in the 1920's and early, pitcher's routinely used spitballs, shine balls, and scuffed balls. All their stats would have to be asterisked as well... Cobb used to sharpen his spikes so as to purposely injure Second Basemen, Short Stops and Catchers when he would steal bases... the list really goes on and on. And who REALLY knows what was in Babe Ruth's bat or whoever. Not to mention the main fact that steroids werent illegal in the world of baseball until 2003.


Posted by verndogs on Dec-08-2004 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
I guess that settles it then.


that had to be one of the best page 2 articles I've ever read


Posted by verndogs on Dec-08-2004 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
that had to be one of the best page 2 articles I've ever read


my favorite page 2 article had to be bill simmons and his vengance scale earlier this year



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