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Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Oct-20-2001 02:45:

really good songs that vocals ruin...?

my vote goes to dr bronx and natalia - izo vseh nil. russian trance/techno. unbelievable melodyyyyyyy but the russian vocals ruin it. if they were english it would be bad at all. d/l the song and see for yourself, its a good song even with the vocals. if it didnt have them it could be in my top 20 of all time.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Oct-20-2001 02:53:

theres a song called gamemaster on oakey's tranceport 1 cd, forgotwho made it, but it sounds nice, then gets stupid as hell when that chick starts her retarded speech.


Posted by Xavier on Oct-20-2001 03:39:

Milk inc - walk on water

heaps from Milk Inc have great riffs, but the vocals arent worthy of being with the riff.


Posted by biznology on Oct-20-2001 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
theres a song called gamemaster on oakey's tranceport 1 cd, forgotwho made it, but it sounds nice, then gets stupid as hell when that chick starts her retarded speech.


Actually I can't say I would agree with you, it IS kinda cheesy but too sentimental, plus that song prolly wouldnt have been all that popular without commanding you to find your goddess energy...late/


Posted by Coup on Oct-20-2001 08:08:

Lost Tribe (Matt Darey) - Gamemaster

i think the vocal urban train sucks ballz, plus the vocals in tocas mircle aswel, for those that have heard Toca Me, the original without the vocals its much better!


Posted by djdawn on Oct-20-2001 08:30:

^^^^agreed to Toca me!

Also: Dumonde vs. Lange - Memory (all full vocal mixes)
I always wished for a Tiesto dub mix of Delerium's "Silence" (now start flaming me), the vocals made my hair stand straight up.
Foggy - Come into my dream
Actually there's many more that I DIDN'T buy because of the vocals, but I don't remember these.


Posted by raver31 on Oct-20-2001 08:56:

angelic - stay with me sucks major dick with those out of place vocals. they just dont fit. the song has a good melody but that voice just doesnt blend in


Posted by boy_luke_y2k on Oct-20-2001 08:57:

Cool

Rank 1 - Such Is Life
All Ayumi Hamasaki songs


Posted by AndiH on Oct-20-2001 09:17:

there are too many to mention...here are a few
- all ayumi hamasaki songs
- perpetuous dreamer - the sound of goodbye
- das licht - traumwelten
- most tunes with germans vocals


Posted by Kytracid on Oct-20-2001 10:58:

Gouryella - Walhalla (Vocal Mix) <- The vocals are terrible !!!
Kai Tracid - Liquid Sun <- Old tune which was good except the vocals


Posted by Paul Wilson on Oct-20-2001 11:02:

Saint Etienne "Sylvie" (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix) - Lovely instrumental ruined by really crap vocal. There is a dub version but unfotunately I can't find it!


Posted by Snooper on Oct-20-2001 13:11:

The most obious I can think of is:
Ayumi Hamasaki - Trauma (Dumonde Remix)


Posted by LoginZ on Oct-20-2001 14:01:

Thumbs down Bullet in the gun

Perfecto - Bullet in the gun suxx with vocals, it was great when i heard it instrumental in the PvD MuziK 60 minutes mix...

As PvD said :"Vocals are just for 'crasher kids..."

A+


Posted by TwoHardCore on Oct-20-2001 15:52:

Vocals + Trance = BAD!!!!

There isn't one trance song where vocals add to the experience in a good way (IMO). Any trance song you can name would be much better without vocals.


Posted by Paul Wilson on Oct-20-2001 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TwoHardCore
Vocals + Trance = BAD!!!!

There isn't one trance song where vocals add to the experience in a good way (IMO). Any trance song you can name would be much better without vocals.


Quite simply bullshit! I love vocal trance very much and the like of Space Brothers "Shine" and any Jan Johnston track wouldn't be the same without the vocals. Sorry, but that just isn't right. I can't believe you made such a comment!


Posted by VX-SaKiN- on Oct-20-2001 16:12:

most suxx0r vocals i heard on a track

Delirium - Silence (airscape and tiesto mix)
i get angry wheni hear her stupied talkin

the airscape remix would b very good with non vocals..
but for the tiesto mix i dont care.. because it sux with or without vocals


Posted by TranceFusion on Oct-20-2001 16:50:

Hello!

quote:
Originally posted by TwoHardCore
Vocals + Trance = BAD!!!!

There isn't one trance song where vocals add to the experience in a good way (IMO). Any trance song you can name would be much better without vocals.

You would be right with that statement but your not, heh, anyway I think that cosmic gate - melt to the ocean is dumb as hell with thoes vocals.....


Posted by LoginZ on Oct-20-2001 17:04:

Smiley DJ Silence is the tune that need the most this superb vocals... May this one get you res

quote:
Originally posted by VX-SaKiN-
most suxx0r vocals i heard on a track

Delirium - Silence (airscape and tiesto mix)
i get angry wheni hear her stupied talkin

the airscape remix would b very good with non vocals..
but for the tiesto mix i dont care.. because it sux with or without vocals


If i had to make discover trance to a non adept, i would make this one heard in first. It's just so magiacal with his crystal voice Sarah Mc Lahlan makes it a smahin' hit, uplifting hit...

The last of a "now buried" time when pure trance was ruling.

I cannot understand such comment, this tune made fly higher than ISS.



A+

Btw, i love this kind of provocation and the full of wit aspect of your post, cos' i know that you've been high on this one... Arf.


Posted by Sir. Lunchalot on Oct-20-2001 18:49:

HHHMMMMM........I mostly agree that vocals ruin a good song since music doesn`t need to be associated to anything but goes directly into my brain and vocals get me out of this "trance" state of my mind because they don`t go "Directly" into my brain. They first have to be "translated" and put to a meaning, pure music doesn`t. I hope someone in here understands what I mean....

BUT there are a few exceptions to this: Age of love - Age of love is brilliant when the voice says:"Come on, dance with me....", since it gets you back on the floor before this best of all time synth line starts!!!

...and also there`s Nikolai - Ready to flow (original mix). This song is so brilliant and needs the vocal saying "Ready to flow" because if they weren`t in that song it would take me so far away I could never return!!!


Posted by thesuperfunk on Oct-20-2001 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by TwoHardCore
Vocals + Trance = BAD!!!!

There isn't one trance song where vocals add to the experience in a good way (IMO). Any trance song you can name would be much better without vocals.


how's about ..

Delerium - Silence [DJ Tiesto Remix]

the vocals were what made that tune!

Other stuff like the Riva/AvB remies of 'Rapture' and Hemstock & Jennings 'Mirage [Of Hope]' are other great examples of vocal trance too!


Posted by `|r[On]eD on Oct-20-2001 22:57:

Shame / Disagreement Re: Bullet in the gun

quote:
Originally posted by LoginZ
Perfecto - Bullet in the gun suxx with vocals, it was great when i heard it instrumental in the PvD MuziK 60 minutes mix...

As PvD said :"Vocals are just for 'crasher kids..."

A+




It has one of the greatest vocals of all time !!


Posted by Kytracid on Oct-22-2001 09:44:

Re: Re: Bullet in the gun

quote:
Originally posted by `|r[On]eD




It has one of the greatest vocals of all time !!


Personally I think the vocals to Bullet from a Gun are cheezy...the Mix that PVD played is soo much more powerfull....

Anyone know which mix PVD used on the 60 min mix ? I would love to get it.


Posted by Nook on Oct-22-2001 11:18:

Personally a song can do without vocals but in some cases they are great, like delerium, jan johnston, dumonde vs lang, bt, mekka, BUT you do have some songs that just really f**ks the song up. Like Angelic - Stay with me. REALLY hate it.


Posted by Subsonik on Oct-22-2001 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by AndiH
there are too many to mention...here are a few
- all ayumi hamasaki songs
- perpetuous dreamer - the sound of goodbye


agree woth that ones , the ayumi vocals r simply terrible , i love one track with the ayumi vocals ,trauma (dumonde remix)

and the sound of goodbye ,the lyrics r good ,but i hate the voice


Posted by Paul Wilson on Oct-22-2001 12:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Nook
Personally a song can do without vocals but in some cases they are great, like delerium, jan johnston, dumonde vs lang, bt, mekka, BUT you do have some songs that just really f**ks the song up. Like Angelic - Stay with me. REALLY hate it.


If it's a vocalist with a good voice then vocals are really great, but if it's somebody with a terrible voice like Amanda O'riordan they are awful!


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