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Posted by erdega on Dec-02-2004 21:51:

Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

video link

Unfortunatelly you won't see this on cnn or any other controled media. Here we have a bunch of violent muslim albanians in a pack trying very hard to destroy and burn this aparently abandoned and ancient serbian church. It's from this year. Now this is done right under the nose on nato (american) occupation. This is just one small proof of how foreign policy of american government is complicit in terrorism in many parts of the world but in balkans in particular. It really makes me sick.


Posted by sensorium on Dec-02-2004 21:58:

You posted the same thread twice.


Posted by erdega on Dec-02-2004 22:06:

it's a posting mistake


Posted by dj_ilan_yosef on Dec-02-2004 22:12:

so delete your other one


Posted by erdega on Dec-02-2004 22:34:

done


Posted by BadBadNeil on Dec-02-2004 23:43:

Re: Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
video link

Unfortunatelly you won't see this on cnn or any other controled media. Here we have a bunch of violent muslim albanians in a pack trying very hard to destroy and burn this aparently abandoned and ancient serbian church. It's from this year. Now this is done right under the nose on nato (american) occupation. This is just one small proof of how foreign policy of american government is complicit in terrorism in many parts of the world but in balkans in particular. It really makes me sick.


Serbian protective force is now controlled by the EU. Go complain about them.


Posted by erdega on Dec-03-2004 00:39:

Re: Re: Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Serbian protective force is now controlled by the EU. Go complain about them.


What do you mean?
and I ain't complaining. I am showing things you won't see in controlled media. Then when you wonder why terrorists attack, you should know that american government is in fool cahoots with them. And I won't shut up, they are killing my people and heritage for whom I care.


Posted by JM on Dec-03-2004 02:08:

HEH..

.mov file. wtf is that?

someone plese find or convert to a file more commonly used, such as an .avi or .mpeg file

>JM<


Posted by erdega on Dec-03-2004 02:25:

AVI FILE


Posted by sensorium on Dec-03-2004 02:59:

Either I don't understand the language or I just saw a woman making the same statement three times. Which one is it?


Posted by occrider on Dec-03-2004 03:27:

Ummm fyi, St. Andrew's church in Podujevo was guarded by a Czech regiment of KFOR troops. As a matter of fact, the only troops around the Pristina region was a multinational brigade consisting of Finnish, Swedish, Irish , Czech, and Slovak troops ... not American. Wow, I never knew that Czech foreign policy was so complicit with terrorism .

quote:

Czechs hold line in Kosovo

KFOR soldiers defend Serb enclaves against
attacks by Albanians

"Albanians smashed everything inside, including our communications center, made a big pile in front and set it on fire. Then they turned their attention to the adjacent Serb cemetery. They knocked over tombstones, dug up the coffins and scattered the bones in them", says Czech captain Jindrich Plescher - "I have never seen anything like it"


By Eva Munk
For The Prague Post
(March 25, 2004)

Captain Jindrich Plescher had never seen anything like it.

"We were defending a Serb Orthodox church in the town of Podujevo against a mob of 500 Albanians, but there were too many for us," he recalled. "When they broke through the wall [around the church], we got orders to retreat.

"They smashed everything inside, including our communications center, made a big pile in front and set it on fire. Then they turned their attention to the adjacent Serb cemetery. They knocked over tombstones, dug up the coffins and scattered the bones in them."

For the first time March 21, the professionally optimistic voice of Plescher, press spokesman for the Czech-Slovak KFOR battalion in Kosovo, sounded tired.

"Sorry, we've been on our feet since last week," he said. "Our boys have been rounding up Serb families, pulling them out of cellars and out of burning houses -- saving their lives."

Czech and Slovak soldiers have been supporting KFOR's Brigade center -- a multinational unit consisting of Finnish, Swedish and Irish troops, located around the administrative center of Pristina -- since mobs of ethnic Albanians went on a rampage against Kosovo's Serb minority March 17.

"The Serbs are very happy to see Czech and Slovak troops. They see us as keepers of the peace," Plescher said.

For most of the week, they helped defend Serb enclaves in the towns of Lipljan, Plemetina, Babin Most, Caglavica and Gracanica. By March 21 they had consolidated around the village of Obili�, a Serb enclave northwest of Pristina, and were evacuating the remaining Serb inhabitants to military headquarters in the city. The Serb homes in the village were ransacked and burned, said unit commander Josef Kopecky.

Albanian rage

In times of peace, the 500-strong Fourth Czech-Slovak KFOR battalion keeps the peace in an area of 1,000 square kilometers (386 square miles) in the northeast corner of the province, including 104 kilometers (65 miles) of borderland and a long stretch of the Belgrade-Pristina highway. The area was expanded by 179 square kilometers March 22 to include more ethnically mixed villages.

Now their mission is simply to protect Serbs from enraged mobs of ethnic Albanians.

"The residents have gone to war with each other using whatever they can -- iron bars, rifles, handguns and even grenades," Kopecky said March 19. "In Serbian enclaves, Kosovo Albanians are destroying property, burning houses, chasing people away and even lynching them. The Serbs are trying to defend themselves and we are trying to keep them apart."

No Czech or Slovak soldiers have been hurt, except for one Slovak who was hit on the head with a rock, Plescher said. "He was up on his feet again the next day. Please, please tell everyone back home that all our boys are alive and well."

The Czech government had planned to withdraw 100 troops from Kosovo by May 1. But the performance of the Czech soldiers in quelling the riots has made the government change its mind about downsizing the force in the province, Czech Prime Minister Vladimir Spidla told reporters.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125768/posts


Posted by Electrotek on Dec-03-2004 04:51:

Quit whining, you Serbs destroyed more mosques in Bosnia and Kosovo, and you cry about one church being vandalized? Get over yourself.


Posted by Massive84 on Dec-03-2004 05:06:

Re: Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
video link

Unfortunatelly you won't see this on cnn or any other controled media. Here we have a bunch of violent muslim albanians in a pack trying very hard to destroy and burn this aparently abandoned and ancient serbian church. It's from this year. Now this is done right under the nose on nato (american) occupation. This is just one small proof of how foreign policy of american government is complicit in terrorism in many parts of the world but in balkans in particular. It really makes me sick.


so who are you blaming ? America or muslims??


Posted by ShadoWolf on Dec-03-2004 06:28:

I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage.





It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs.



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Posted by erdega on Dec-03-2004 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Ummm fyi, St. Andrew's church in Podujevo was guarded by a Czech regiment of KFOR troops. As a matter of fact, the only troops around the Pristina region was a multinational brigade consisting of Finnish, Swedish, Irish , Czech, and Slovak troops ... not American. Wow, I never knew that Czech foreign policy was so complicit with terrorism .


Czechs and any others smaller european soldiers are just foot soldiers and just like in Iraq I don't think they have any control. The control structure as well as policies is firmly in american hands. This is a different church in "American" sector and yes guy is pissing iside the church.


Unfortunately this is but a small part. There is more at this italian site http://www.salvaimonasteri.org
There are no independent journalists there as they don't want us too see this.


Posted by erdega on Dec-03-2004 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Electrotek
Quit whining, you Serbs destroyed more mosques in Bosnia and Kosovo, and you cry about one church being vandalized? Get over yourself.


Why does it bother you? Who are you to call me out?
One church??? I'll give you more if you dare. These are historic churches and monasteries and what they are doing is genocide no less. Fact is there are no serbs left there because of terrorism and with these destructions they want to complete unthinkable. For this I hold american government personally responsible and I won't rest till justice and truth is served.

Some mosques were destroyed in war but not before or after and radical muslims have a sad tradition of making mosques into military buildings . Second of all, none of them have historical importance, beauty or longevity of these almost 1000 year old churches and monasteries. Most of the mosques are remnants of turkish occupation.


Posted by erdega on Dec-03-2004 07:01:

Re: Re: Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
so who are you blaming ? America or muslims??


I hold american government foreign policy responsible for allowing this outrage to continue. It's been way too long and they try hard to cover it up. It is my opinion these muslims wouldn't be able to do this or even think about it if they would didn't enjoy complete immunity and brainwashing from their media which incites them to terrorism almost daily.


Posted by occrider on Dec-03-2004 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
Czechs and any others smaller european soldiers are just foot soldiers and just like in Iraq I don't think they have any control. The control structure as well as policies is firmly in american hands. This is a different church in "American" sector and yes guy is pissing iside the church.




Ummm no, the pic you posted, "Crkva Svetog Djordja u Prizrenu skoro unistena", is the Church of St. George Runovic (15th century)in the city of Prizrenu or Prizren. If you look at the map of KFOR zones whereby a different lead country is responsible for each zone, Prizrenu is under the jurisdiction of Italy in zone 3:



Multinational Specialized Unit

HQ: Pristina
The Multinational Specialized Unit (MSU) is a police force with military status, with an overall police capability.

Lead Nation:
Italy

Contributing Nations:
Italy
France
Estonia

1. Multinational Brigade Centre HQ: Pristina
Responsible for: Podujevo, Kosovo Polje, Lipljan, Obilic, Glogovac and Stimlje.

Lead Nation:
Sweden

Contributing Nations:
Czech Republic
Ireland
Latvia
Slovakia
Finland
United Kingdom

2. Multinational Brigade Northeast

HQ: Nova Selo and Mitrovica
Responsible for: Northern Kosovo

Lead Nation:
France

Contributing Nations:
Belgium
Denmark
Estonia
Greece
Luxembourg
Morocco

3. Multinational Brigade Southwest

HQ: Prizren
Responsible for: Southwest Kosovo

Lead Nation:
Italy

Contributing Nations:
Austria
Argentina
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Romania
Slovenia
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey

4. Multinational Brigade East

HQ: Urosevac
Responsible for: Eastern Kosovo, border security

Lead Nation:
United States

Contributing Nations:
Armenia
Greece
Lithuania
Poland
Ukraine


http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/balkans/workman.html

And St. Andrew's Church, in Podujevo, is in zone 1 which is Sweden's jurisdiction. The command and control structure for each KFOR zone is clearly in the hands of the lead nation assigned to that zone. Nice try assigning blame to the Americans however ...

The Americans were no more secretely encouraging such acts in as much as Sweden or Italy were not encouraging such acts. The facts of the situation was that KFOR troops were sometimes overwhelmed and forced to withdraw rather than inflict deadly force on civilians. Your fallacial arguments that are Begging the Question are unconvincing.


Posted by trancaholic on Dec-03-2004 10:29:

Re: Re: Re: Caught on Video:Savage destruction of a church by muslims

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
I hold american government foreign policy responsible for allowing this outrage to continue. It's been way too long and they try hard to cover it up. It is my opinion these muslims wouldn't be able to do this or even think about it if they would didn't enjoy complete immunity and brainwashing from their media which incites them to terrorism almost daily.

Ok, let's say that the changing US governments systematically have been controlling the media to not report on these matters. Then answer me this: How come they haven't succeeded in hiding news on destruction caused by radical muslims elsewhere? Why doesn't European media report on the matters? Do you think that the US government holds any power whatsoever on European media services?

Try to take a step back and see this for what it really is. This is vandalism targeting a bunch of abandoned churches. The churches may be important manifestations of some obscure parts of Serbian history, but their continued existence is, as a matter of fact, of no interest to the average Joe in other countries. That's why these stories are not reported by CNN and other news outlets.
I ask you this: Did Serbian news report on the systematic theft of ancient books from the Danish national library last year? Entire sections of our national identity went out the window on that occasion, and all the major international news stations didn't report on it. They were probably told not to by the US government. I tell you, the US government is helping these thieves. It hates us Danes.


Posted by Electrotek on Dec-03-2004 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
Why does it bother you? Who are you to call me out?
One church??? I'll give you more if you dare. These are historic churches and monasteries and what they are doing is genocide no less. Fact is there are no serbs left there because of terrorism and with these destructions they want to complete unthinkable. For this I hold american government personally responsible and I won't rest till justice and truth is served.

Some mosques were destroyed in war but not before or after and radical muslims have a sad tradition of making mosques into military buildings . Second of all, none of them have historical importance, beauty or longevity of these almost 1000 year old churches and monasteries. Most of the mosques are remnants of turkish occupation.


Considering the fact that it was YOUR people who started the whole war in the Balkans, and considering that the majority of the atrocities in the Balkans were committed by the Serbs, I have every single right to call you out on your hypocrisy. I guess you liked it when you Serbs slaughtered women and children in Srebrenica, right?

Radical Muslims? How the fuck are they radical? Because they were defending their homes and their families from warmongering Serbs who were hellbent on death and destruction? Yeah that makes them radical

You want justice huh? Why don't you start taking action against Mladic and Karadzic before you mention justice. Justice needs to be done upon the Serbs for what they have done in the Balkans.

Albanians don't like Christians? Gee, I wonder how they get along with their Catholic counterparts, considering that they consider themselves brothers and even celebrate holidays together


Posted by Electrotek on Dec-03-2004 12:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage.





It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs.



edit:






That explains why you're full of shit. You have blood on your hands in Bosnia and Kosovo.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Dec-03-2004 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Electrotek
That explains why you're full of shit. You have blood on your hands in Bosnia and Kosovo.


No, the Turks/Muslims have blood on their hands for invading Europe in the first place.


Posted by razmataz on Dec-03-2004 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage.





It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs.



edit:







You're a bad joke on a sweaty t-shirt.
At best.


Posted by jonSun on Dec-03-2004 19:55:

Damn shame. Looked like a nice church too.


Posted by Dunya on Dec-04-2004 11:00:

The serbian leader Milosovic killed thousands and thousands of muslims. That was in Sebrenica, oops you forget that.
The Un soldiers were looking to the genocide who is committed by Milosovic. Anyway he is accused and is in prison at the moment.

ps:Spread your lies somewhere else.


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