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complimenting melodies?
I made this post a while ago
i dont know if you remember but
i posted this sample with two melodies which did not go well together at all but ive been practicing so here is what i came up with
this is the old sample
http://www.geocities.com/moreofmywo...underground.mp3
and this is the new sample
http://www.geocities.com/moreofmywo...tter_sample.mp3
a lot of people replied that the sounds were not right and did not go together so let me know ,how this new sample sounds compared to the older mp3.
thanks club kid
Sorry, where exactly is the melody? 
This is like subversive stuff that is very unstructured. I dont think it does work imo. 
Umm...I don't really notice any kind of melody at all in both of these samples.
You have to understand that a melody is a phrase consisting of different segments which, in some way, should relate to each other. This sounds like some random stuff tossed together imo.
I'd suggest reading a little about musical theory! That might help alot. I couldn't really make out any melody here either. Maybe you're trying a little too hard? Download some midis from that nice midi page on the top of this forum, and study the progression and structure of some of those. 
I'm sorry man, didn't like that. 
Like Beijer said - study some music theory.
One thing about that "Better_sample.mp3" - skip the voicesample.
any examples for starters
i understand you guys ,but could you give me an example of a melody so i can see what im doing wrong so i can learn ,thanks
A melody is the actual tune of a tune (if that makes sense). Think of any riff of other tracks and that is the melody.
Just listen to any song man.. Listen to the music you love the most, and you should be able to see what needs to be done. Better yet, as I said earlier, dl some midi files and see how the melodies are made. Complex areggios can be hard to understand how to create without having actually seen some examples. There's really no point in posting an "example" of a melody.
Ok... uuuh... dude... stop making that noise man..
first one sounds like you just pressed random keys on the keyboard, there is no definite drumbeat or melody, jsut random shit. And the second one, which is supposed to be a new and improved version of the old one, doesn't sound anything like it :S although it also sounds bad
I don't mean to be annoying, but a melody has to have.. well.. melody and rhytm! not just random notes played on the keyboard (unless of course it sounds good by accident, but this doesn't ). You should learn music theory, or at least listen to some music so you get a sense of what sounds good and what doesn't sound right. If you can't *feel* the difference, then maybe music isn't for you..
There is a thing called harmony, and that means that the note that comes next in the song *matches* the previous note. Songs have keys, like C major or B minor, and each of these keys include notes that sound in a certain way when played together in a song. Not everything sounds good, or *right*, and that's because the note you are using isn't included in that key (This is a very basic explanation, of course there are exceptions, but the best way to find out what sounds good is just to listen!)
I wanna sign this.... Random music rules...
no music is for me ! its what i want and I have lots of ideas and all ,i just have to work a lot harder on my melodies and put it all together.
imo a melody is in essence, a derivative of the actual lead that basically accompanys and compliments the melody of course in that right key and major.
atleast it was entertaining, keep it up!
This is a joke, right?
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| Originally posted by Miss Bliss I wanna sign this.... Random music rules... |
ive decided to take your guys advice ,seriously
i feel in the long run learning musical theory will be beneficial to me
since i never really learned it (i kind of overlooked the importance of it)
and the theory is for any genre ,but in the end not only will i be able to write melodies
and understand harmony ,and scales but the end result i will be able to produce much more complex tunes
unlike the ones i am making now.
so yeah i already ereased all the songs in my sequencer and dont plan on making any until i learn muiscal theory.
by then i probably wont need this forum ,once i have a better grasp and understanding of it all,and able to think outside the box
in music terms.
so thanks for your help.
clubkid
Hey ClubKid
i understand ur frustration...i used to be in ur position too man.
IMO...well...nvm in IMO...i would have to state that TA doesnt have any people on here who know what they are doing as far as producing...except for the few i know of...
(Pho Mo-has the same style as dj Tiesto which im sick of...but none the less he knows how to produce trance...but not his own trance...and Dj Igloo who i would like to say enjoy listening to everyone of his tracks except his new chiba remix...and this german guy TranceVision...i think thats his name cant remember)
Learning musical theory is important in making trance...but does not help u build trance melodies...but i will give u something that does...
This site is full of Professional unsigned and signed artists who are nice enough to give the right information...and whom also actually step out of there way to help other aspiring producers
http://www.serious-sounds.net/forum...hp?showforum=63
this site has helped me in a big way...let me emphesize BIG...these people know what they are doing...review ur tracks without putting u down...as well as backing there words up if they tell u ur stuff is trash..and tell u how to not make it sound trash.
Well thats all i had to say...goodluck on ur journey of producing...and let me say this site doesnt not help
Sebasano
P.S. pm me if u need some more info
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| Originally posted by djdustx IMO...well...nvm in IMO...i would have to state that TA doesnt have any people on here who know what they are doing as far as producing...except for the few i know of... |
Dj dustx, you should be ready for some comments on several things you said, I can't be bothered to comment on all of them though. I think you are way off when you said that this site does not help - as I've found lots of topics on here that has helped me very much.
I'm not very experienced in production yet, but thanks to this site I'm starting to get a better perspective on how things should/could be done.
And frankly, if I was the site admin, and I saw you write all that negative shit about this site, AND advertising other forums the way you did - I would not have appreciated it alot. I'm glad you want to help this guy out - so does everyone of us - but saying there are more or less NONE here who can give good input on production, you are sadly mistaken, my friend. I can't still believe you made that statement. 
i see his point though. only pho mo even bothers to even look at my tracks so i stopped posting in the amateur music promotion forum a few weeks back. most threads there consist of people saying 'grate choon!!1' and thats that. so alot of threads degenerate into an ass kissing contest. this forum has some quality threads that got buried. so you gotta dig for those. the dj booth is friendlier overall than the production forum i think and they are quite helpful to peeps like me that suck at djing. and ive seen worse forums anyway. faaar worse. take a look at the soundclick production forum if you think this is bad djdustx 
holy fucking shit. it has to be seen to be believed.
Beijer...if u did not know before i'll let u know now that TranceAddict.com is a site where people who love Trance and edm come together and shoot the shit i.e. gab gab gab..., talk about events...promote whats going on...and sections describing what u can talk about.
this site doesnt not reach futher then that...and dont assume im trashing TranceAddict.com...but facts are facts...there is a very limited supply of people who know anything in producing...and those who know are wrapped up into there own projects...the only one of course i have seen give a shit about people starting is PHO MO...who replies 98% of the time with what they need.
89% of the people who reply tell u how bad it is...but dont back there statement with why/how its bad. Also these people tend to be the yes men to the favored few.
Everyone who wants to help???...read the other replies...pure trash talk...and from the people who sadly think they know how to produce...and when they have the courage to submit there tracks there working on...there true broken self-ego shows by them already trashing there track...hoping for a pity "its got potential" or "keep at it"...even when i've hear that they sound worse then this guy ClubKid.
ClubKid at least i respect...hes seeking help and i've never seen this guy trash talk or put someone else down for trying.
Negative shit?...well again facts are facts, and in no way am i putting down TA...promoting other forums?...what do i care if they get exposure or not?...i listed serious sounds...cuz they have people who know what they are doing as well as flp files on how to create different melodies/basslines etc...and thaught this is the best way i could help.
Sebasano
Well, that's your opinion. I'm new to this too, and I've learned alot from this exact forum right here - without ever have posted anything. (I posted a track some weeks ago, but that hasn't got anything to with this.) I don't think there just trash talk here - though some people are abit too rude with their comments now and then. You've been here longer than me, as I've just been around for one year or so (unregistered), but I don't agree with you on that there's no help for the newbie to be found here - as I did infact find alot of help here. Infact, the production forum is the ONLY forum I'm at here, because I find the other forums to be packed with pretentious snobs that think trance died ten years ago.
So to sum things up: I don't agree there's no help to be found here for a person just starting out. I agree, though, that there may be other forums that provide better information on certain things - like the forum you mentioned. I just think you were going slightly overboard by some of your statements.
im new as well man...i respect u and ur opinion...but felt that i had to object because i've asked a few questions and was only to be left in the dark.
Well to each is own...
Sebasano
B.E. lmao...since when did i turn a senior?
djdustx
thanks the post did answer my question on how to compliment my melodies and how to make them ,and i have listend to other tracks to get a better idea on what a melody was i knew what a meldoy was before just had trouble making it.
now i just need to make a lead and a main riff now so everything will be complete.
clubkid
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