Cher-Believe-Voice Edition Question.

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Posted by kopi_luwak on Dec-04-2004 17:57:

Cher-Believe-Voice Edition Question.

Hey i am sure all you remember the song from cher believe that was hiting the top ten lists some years ago,I am wonder,what do you need to make a singer sound with the same effect like she used in that track?you know that effect like flanger with pitches etc,I would really apreciate fi someone could give me some tips about how to make that great effect very common in Trance and Dance Tracks,thanx in advance .
Kopi =o.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-04-2004 18:07:

Here's a tip:

Don't do it.

...but if you really want to rape your vocals with this awful effect, try Antares Autotune.

Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-04-2004 18:50:

I thought it was a simple procedure using a vocoder?

Posted by DjSimonB on Dec-04-2004 19:02:

I think it was done with some kind of auto-tuner, which was turned right up.

It does sound crap and unnecessary in most songs though, especially if you've got emotional-sounding vocals it would ruin their effect. But you're the producer, the whole point of making your own music is that you can do whatever the hell you want

Posted by Cloudburst on Dec-04-2004 19:14:

I'm blue, dii daba dee!

Posted by Snakebyte on Dec-04-2004 20:15:

the cheer vox was done with antares autotune, with the heaviest settings of tuning.

That blue-track sounds like they used some formant-shaping-thingy. Probably one of rolands products, i remember they released a sampler some years ago that worked alot with formants and stuff...you could easily do harmonies with it...don't remember the name of the product tho....

Posted by nytrox on Dec-04-2004 22:15:

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tuto...agic/vocal4.asp

Posted by Dj Thy on Dec-04-2004 22:32:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb...s/tracks661.htm

The trick according to the actual producers of "I Believe". Notice that Autotune appears nowhere in the explanation...

Posted by Limit on Dec-04-2004 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Snakebyte
the cheer vox was done with antares autotune, with the heaviest settings of tuning.

actually it wasnt...the guy used an old digitech Vocoder and used a nord for the carrier signal, But yes you can esily use auto-tune for this.

Posted by Apyr0us on Dec-05-2004 13:26:

I recall reading an inteview with the producer of that track of cher,
it was indeed(as many have stated here) autotune and NOT vocoder.
the chorus ( I think) in this track, doesnt contain any toneheights ( dont know if this IS in fact an english word) between half ( or even whole) notes. so it directly goes from one note to the other if it's get closer to the second note. which sounds very 'unreal'.

Posted by kopi_luwak on Dec-05-2004 15:10:

Thanx to all you for ur nice replys!indeed,gonna try to get that antares auto tune,someone knows how much is?and again thanks to all you .
Kopi =o.

Posted by Freak on Dec-06-2004 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Limit
actually it wasnt...the guy used an old digitech Vocoder and used a nord for the carrier signal,

correct- it was a korg MS20

Posted by Quinders on Dec-06-2004 11:57:

Sasha used a similar effect on some of his remixes for the "Involver" album. I thought it sounded pretty good. Mind you it was a lot more subtle than that Cher crap.

Posted by kopi_luwak on Dec-06-2004 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Quinders
Sasha used a similar effect on some of his remixes for the "Involver" album. I thought it sounded pretty good. Mind you it was a lot more subtle than that Cher crap.

I agreeing with you,most of dance producers have abused of this effect but used light it's a great way to make sound a voice for sure.
Kopi =o.

Posted by meDina on Dec-07-2004 02:14:

Auto-tune as a "band-aid" so to speak is great... anything else is overprocessing