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Posted by djbruuen on Dec-06-2004 17:26:

Question for CD Dj's

hi guys...something i've been wondering is: when making a burned cd, what speed do you usually burn at. i'm aware that the slower the better because the information gets incoded more securaly to the cd, but is there a safe speed to use usually where you won't be compromising the quality of the cd, but it won't take forever to burn.

also, what cd mediums do you guys use/recommend. There are quite a few brands around nowadays, and some i've had problems with. So what manufacturers do you think make the best cds, and any specific models.


thanks


Posted by D Dubya on Dec-06-2004 17:32:

I prefer using FujiFilm (they have quality recordable media) and I burn everything at 32X without problems.


Posted by tu_face on Dec-06-2004 17:33:

Re: Question for CD Dj's

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
hi guys...something i've been wondering is: when making a burned cd, what speed do you usually burn at. i'm aware that the slower the better because the information gets incoded more securaly to the cd, but is there a safe speed to use usually where you won't be compromising the quality of the cd, but it won't take forever to burn.

also, what cd mediums do you guys use/recommend. There are quite a few brands around nowadays, and some i've had problems with. So what manufacturers do you think make the best cds, and any specific models.


thanks


i always burn at 4x, so should you in short, there is no way to get them burned fast and be 100% sure about them.

i tend to find the cheap cd's from bigpockets.co.uk work perfect in all the cd decks i have used them in, including pioneers.


Posted by D Dubya on Dec-06-2004 17:36:

Re: Re: Question for CD Dj's

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i always burn at 4x, so should you in short, there is no way to get them burned fast and be 100% sure about them.

i tend to find the cheap cd's from bigpockets.co.uk work perfect in all the cd decks i have used them in, including pioneers.


burn them at 32X. Tu doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesnt even use technics


Posted by janos on Dec-06-2004 17:41:

Burn them at whatever spedd your computer & cd burner can handle mate. Computer and Burner buffer technologies have excelled in recent years. You can get away with using the fastest speed available.

Just one tip, dont have any other process heavy applications in the background mate...it will screw up your cd!


Posted by djbruuen on Dec-06-2004 17:46:

thanks for all the replys so far guys...some points that all 3 of you have mentioned i've considered and heard positive comments about doing all of those things, but also some negative. so i;ve been a little bit confused on which option will work the best...i'll have to do some trial and error on my own i guess. i definately welcome everyones comments on this though, because i'm really curious to know what all you cd dj's use.


Posted by JM-8 on Dec-06-2004 17:56:

There really isn't a perfect answer - from what I have heard you should burn at the max speed of your CD-burner because they are usually developed/designed/calibrated to work at this max speed, but maybe that is a myth.

I always burn at max speed with both my writers and have never had a problem with my CDJ-800s


Posted by starlabs on Dec-06-2004 18:04:

It partially depends on the cd burning hardware/software you're using, the cd media, and the cd decks.

In most cases you're fine maxing out the cd speed (personally, I burn at 16x).

Most modern cd burners are pretty good about data integrity now, even with buffer underruns. A brand I recommend is Lite-On. They've rarely created any coasters. As for software, Nero's always a good choice. Use a nice brand-name media, ie Maxell, Fuji, etc. Non-brand name ones are a little dodgier, but if you're not going to be doing gigs, they're fine too.


Posted by Freak on Dec-06-2004 18:12:

Pc line by Pc world

12x (no more) and always track at once

I have nothing running while burning either.
That includes messenger


Posted by DJ_Hailstone on Dec-06-2004 18:14:

Re: Question for CD Dj's

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
hi guys...something i've been wondering is: when making a burned cd, what speed do you usually burn at. i'm aware that the slower the better because the information gets incoded more securaly to the cd, but is there a safe speed to use usually where you won't be compromising the quality of the cd, but it won't take forever to burn.

also, what cd mediums do you guys use/recommend. There are quite a few brands around nowadays, and some i've had problems with. So what manufacturers do you think make the best cds, and any specific models.


thanks


You should use quality CDRs (Verbatim or Tayio Yuden produced=these are the best). I recommend burning with 4x speed.


Posted by FirstBorn on Dec-06-2004 18:49:

I burn at 8 x speed which has always suited me fine. I then play 'em on Pioneer CDJ800's and have never had a problem.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Dec-06-2004 19:12:

Re: Question for CD Dj's

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
also, what cd mediums do you guys use/recommend. There are quite a few brands around nowadays, and some i've had problems with. So what manufacturers do you think make the best cds, and any specific models.


thanks


well all cd mediums work, essentially, the same way. The difference between the more expensive ones is the extra layer of film on the bottom that makes them run better if there are hairline scratches. This isn't always a good thing, this extra layer of film actually makes the cd less reflective, not to the point of CD-RW's, but none the less still less reflective. If a CD is less reflective it takes a more powerful laser to read them, most CDJ's have top of the line lasers but in a club, if its an older CD deck or has a lot of wear you might have some trouble.

i'm with Freak, i never burn over 12... i have no reason to risk it... i'd rather wait the extra 2-3minutes then have my CD skip infront of 2-3 hundred


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Dec-06-2004 19:33:

what speed you record at for reliablity really depends on the recorder.

there are a few recording modes: CAV, CLV, and PCAV.

CAV and PCAV are variable speed modes -- they write faster as they get to the outside of the CD.

CLV mode records at a set, constant speed.

basic rule: determine the highest CLV speed your writer will write at (which is almost always lower than its CAV/PCAV speed) and use that. that way the speed will never change and the write will be constant and consistent.


Posted by jethro on Dec-13-2004 22:47:

ive burned probobly 100+cds out of my laptop and played them in cdjs with 0 skips ever (cept one cd that took a spill down a flight of concrete stairs, and became scratched to hell)
Ive used all common forms of cdr media that can be found at best buy and always burn at 52x.
Speed has nothing to do with quality of the write.
So long as it isnt a $5 cd drive you have nothing to worry about, with burning your cdrs at speed.



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