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Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 15:48:

Isnt it funny how....

Teachers only go on strike when school is in and Canada Post only goes on strike at Christmas?

And they say the students/customers arent the targets.

Hope your packaged has arrived because Canada Post probably wont be delivering it otherwise.

Posted by Pett on Dec-09-2004 15:51:

obviously
why wouldnt you strike when you have an unfair advantage at the table?

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 15:52:

Canada Post employees are walking a fine line here. Between FedEx and email they are already almost irrelevant. A strike may just show the public how irrelevant they really are after they see how efficient the alternatives are.

Posted by Pett on Dec-09-2004 15:58:

we still need the mail as of today, so they gotta strike while they still can. I think we will be using mail for at least the next 10 years thou

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 15:59:

i get bills online, pay bills online. And packages can be sent by FedEX. Who needs Canada Post?

Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-09-2004 17:29:

CANADA POST DISAPPOINTED BY UNION STRIKE ACTION - MAIL WILL CONTINUE TO BE DELIVERED

Ottawa - Canada Post expressed extreme disappointment today that the Union of Postal Communications Employees (UPCE) would reject its contract offer and walk off the job.
�We made a comprehensive offer to the Union that fairly reflects the interests of the employees while preserving the corporation's requirement to continue operating in a highly competitive business environment�, said Mark MacDonell, general manager, Labour Relations at Canada Post.

The Corporation�s offer of a forty-two month contract included wage increases that are in line with recent negotiated settlements throughout Canada (2.25%, 2.25%, 2.4% and 2.4%) as well as job security for all regular employees of the bargaining unit. As well as an improved compensation package, the Corporation has accepted the Union's proposal to allow part-time employees to accrue pension benefits based on actual hours worked.

�It will be business as usual at Canada Post and mail delivery will not be interrupted due to this strike action,� said MacDonell. �The members of the UPCE bargaining unit provide clerical, administration and technical support, they do not collect, process or deliver the mail. We fully intend to meet the needs of our customers and deliver the mail on time.�

The corporation is prepared to continue talks with the Union�s bargaining team at any time in an effort to reach a negotiated settlement.

For further information, contact:
Media Relations
Ottawa (613) 734-7675

Posted by harcourt on Dec-09-2004 18:12:

Re: Isnt it funny how....

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Teachers only go on strike when school is in and Canada Post only goes on strike at Christmas?

And they say the students/customers arent the targets.

Hope your packaged has arrived because Canada Post probably wont be delivering it otherwise.

Lets see, if the teachers were to strike while school was out, and mail was to strike in low season. That's semi-equivalent to you threatening to never post here again.

Posted by petro on Dec-09-2004 18:17:

Re: Re: Isnt it funny how....

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Lets see, if the teachers were to strike while school was out, and mail was to strike in low season. That's semi-equivalent to you threatening to never post here again.

Posted by StereoPrincess on Dec-09-2004 18:18:

Re: Re: Isnt it funny how....

Posted by raveed on Dec-09-2004 18:37:

seems to have become a trend on TA ... wenever someone starts a useless post they disguise it so that people will check it out with titles such as ... isnt it funny or what the fuck??

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 18:40:

Its also a trend around here that people bitch about every post they dont like. You can always put the cursor over the title to see the first few lines of a thread if opening it and losing 5 seconds of your life is really that valuable.

Posted by raveed on Dec-09-2004 19:59:

fair enough but all the 5 seconds do add up ... you could have just made the title canada post goes on strike or something ... just my $.02

Posted by Crazy Serb on Dec-09-2004 20:00:

and why in the world would I send something by FedEx if I can send it for a fraction of the cost by CanadaPost?

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 20:21:

if 5 seconds or even 30 seconds make that much of a difference then you are going to die an early death from stressing yourself out too much by overburdening your day.

Posted by RobbyG. on Dec-09-2004 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
and why in the world would I send something by FedEx if I can send it for a fraction of the cost by CanadaPost?

EXACTLY...Canada post is still the cheapest way to send my Xmas wish list to Santa

Posted by Swamper on Dec-09-2004 20:47:

Canada Post is incredibly efficient and a great service. Jayx1, if you had ANY clue wtf you're talking about you'd understand that.

For instance, I mailed out some TA shirts on Monday morning, regular mail, and they got to some people by Tuesday. It cost me a buck, how much faster do you want?

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 20:55:

im not complaining about speed. Im saying that they are stupid to go on strike now and hold the public hostage when there are so many other options right now. 10 years ago they may have had a leg to stand on. Not anymore.

Posted by RobbyG. on Dec-09-2004 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
im not complaining about speed. Im saying that they are stupid to go on strike now and hold the public hostage when there are so many other options right now. 10 years ago they may have had a leg to stand on. Not anymore.

What I would like to know is what percentage of the middle class is in a union?

I know exactly what its like to work in the private sector.Your "job" can be easily erased from an internal audit and the stresses of not knowing how or where you'll earn your next paycheck...Yes I know that times have changed but that doesn't make it right...1 or 2 year contracts...its total bullshit so that a company can save $$$ to satisfy shareholders.

Now that I am in a union (ATU local 113)...I don't have the stresses & worries that I used to have and I make a descent living & my purchasing power is alot better...

I know that unions can be a pain in the ass (even mine) but its a better standard of living then trying to eke out an existence.

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-09-2004 21:12:

I personally think unions need to reinvent themselves because for the most part they encourage lazy middle and upper managements while the new guy gets burdoned with all the work.

Ive seen it myself and heard many accounts of it

Posted by RobbyG. on Dec-09-2004 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
I personally think unions need to reinvent themselves because for the most part they encourage lazy middle and upper managements while the new guy gets burdoned with all the work.

Ive seen it myself and heard many accounts of it

In our union there is NOBODY in TTC managment...and the bottom of the TTC managment totem pole is a foreperson and when the shit hits the fan then THEY get all the crap thrown at them...hence the reason why I will stay in the union & stay in my trade...

I'll agree with you that the unions need to get with the times on some issues.Some of the union executives in our local do very idiotic things...

Posted by MarkT on Dec-09-2004 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
obviously
why wouldnt you strike when you have an unfair advantage at the table?

exactly...end of discussion, LOL.

The entire point of a strike, or the threat of one, is that the strike will pressure a settlement. If there's no real disruption...what motivation is there for the other side to settle?

Teachers striking in the summer...um...would anyone really care until September rolled around?

Email and courier companies have certainly eaten into CP's profits and removed CP as a "necessity"...but if you look around, CP's XPressPost, for eg., is still one of the cheapest and most reliable options out there.

I ordered from Amazon.ca (local warehouse in mississauga) on Sunday at 4am and had the CDs in my mailbox Tuesday morning. Free shipping. I don't think anyone will provide free shipping if you use a courier (?)

Posted by raveed on Dec-09-2004 23:30:

while all these points may be true ... dont u think these guys can use this to their advantage whenever they want even though they have no justification for their demands ...i mean fair enough at the end of the day we all want to make more money but there are better and more ethical ways of making it

Posted by psychosomatica on Dec-09-2004 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
and why in the world would I send something by FedEx if I can send it for a fraction of the cost by CanadaPost?

You're paying for Canada Post out of your taxes. If only you knew how much that package ACTUALLY cost you.

Posted by Tordan on Dec-10-2004 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Canada Post is incredibly efficient and a great service. Jayx1, if you had ANY clue wtf you're talking about you'd understand that.

For instance, I mailed out some TA shirts on Monday morning, regular mail, and they got to some people by Tuesday. It cost me a buck, how much faster do you want?

I must agree. All my mail gets to the destinations in the GTA within a day. Even out of town is pretty fast too.

Posted by dallastar on Dec-10-2004 01:54:

Re: Isnt it funny how....

STRIKES SUCK ASS!

**EDIT**but i sent my cards - they are getting palces and Cp rocks ... they are pretty good jus' like sled-ex.

ciao

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