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Posted by nycionx on Dec-09-2004 19:06:

do u guys think this is bs?

have any of u guys ever seen something like this before?? i see them alot now. like free this and free that. im thinking its bullshit but i dont kno. it involoves ur credit card so i figure it could be a scam, yet i still wanna try, but i dont wanna get fukd over. wut u guys think?

quote:
IF YOU WANT A FREE Digital Camera, THEN KEEP READING:

1. Go to: http://cameras.prizecube.com/?ref=425
2. Sign Up
OK, At this step, everyone gets all scared and runs away. DONT WORRY! ITS FREE!
3. You just need to Complete ONE Free offer. I recommend using this, because its free
Real Arcade: free trial for 30 days, and after a day, just cancel it.
OR
Netscape: All you do is just sign up for the free trial and then cancel.
OR
BlockBuster Online.com: Same as the others, just sign up, and cancel within the free trial period
You will not be charged for any of these offers. They are %100 free.
4. Then, all you need to do is get ONLY 4 completed referrals!! (If you have 4 friends, this will be easy)
5. Enjoy your free Digital Camera!


Posted by nycionx on Dec-09-2004 19:08:

Re: do u guys think this is bs?

quote:
If you have 4 friends, this will be easy



lol, i jsut read this hahah


Posted by petro on Dec-09-2004 20:49:

try it, sounds like a great idea


Posted by milos on Dec-09-2004 20:50:


Posted by RobbyG. on Dec-09-2004 20:50:

Thumbs down

I would most likely LOOSE those 4 friends if I sucker them into this scam


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-09-2004 22:05:

The internet is an amazing phenomenon. It has singlehandedly brought all the various scum of the earth right to the forefront of people's daily lives.

10 years ago, a lot of folks probably thought we'd never see another pyramid scheme. And yet here they are, back in full swing.

A small piece of advice to all the netizens out there: READ THE TERMS BEFORE SIGNING UP FOR ANYTHING. I know they're long and boring and you're lazy beyond belief, but force yourself. 99% of the success of these scams come from people who are simply too lazy to read the fine print. Yesterday one of my friends on MSN was insisting that I sign up for some "free $250 gift card" for Old Navy. A quick glance over the terms & conditions said (among other things) that it was [a] only available to U.S. residents, [b] required 5 referrals, and [c] those referrals not only have to sign up but ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING OFF THEIR SITE. This is a classic PYRAMID SCHEME, folks! I asked if he read the terms, he said no, and proceeded to tell me again to just come on, do it, fill out the form, sign up, do it NOW!


Posted by dallastar on Dec-09-2004 22:31:

it's totally a scam - BEWARE!


Posted by JB1 on Dec-09-2004 22:51:

NOTHING comes free in this world.......enuff said


Posted by nycionx on Dec-09-2004 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by JB1
NOTHING comes free in this world.......enuff said


execpt the best thing in life...

altho if u want sex without trying to get a woman and go thru the whole process (which i understand can be a bitch for many), can pay for it. so then it isnt free in that case.
otherwise it is. god bless!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-09-2004 23:03:

Any promotion that has to repeat the word, "free" 8 times is suspect in my books...


Posted by nycionx on Dec-09-2004 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
The internet is an amazing phenomenon. It has singlehandedly brought all the various scum of the earth right to the forefront of people's daily lives.

10 years ago, a lot of folks probably thought we'd never see another pyramid scheme. And yet here they are, back in full swing.

A small piece of advice to all the netizens out there: READ THE TERMS BEFORE SIGNING UP FOR ANYTHING. I know they're long and boring and you're lazy beyond belief, but force yourself. 99% of the success of these scams come from people who are simply too lazy to read the fine print. Yesterday one of my friends on MSN was insisting that I sign up for some "free $250 gift card" for Old Navy. A quick glance over the terms & conditions said (among other things) that it was [a] only available to U.S. residents, [b] required 5 referrals, and [c] those referrals not only have to sign up but ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING OFF THEIR SITE. This is a classic PYRAMID SCHEME, folks! I asked if he read the terms, he said no, and proceeded to tell me again to just come on, do it, fill out the form, sign up, do it NOW!


ya ur right. the fine print is wut its all about. says everything u actually want to kno right there.

fuk i really wanted that free camera!


Posted by j_spot on Dec-09-2004 23:07:

actually the free ipods and free flat screen things are legit.
I was surprised to find it out
like digi said, open only to US residents, but they sell you direct adverts, and as commision for this, they get X dollars. They give you a ipod for it and make X minus ipod. Quite a deal for the consumer IMO.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-09-2004 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
actually the free ipods and free flat screen things are legit.
I was surprised to find it out
like digi said, open only to US residents, but they sell you direct adverts, and as commision for this, they get X dollars. They give you a ipod for it and make X minus ipod. Quite a deal for the consumer IMO.

Which ones are you talking about? I haven't seen free ipods or flat screens (except for the Pepsi contest).


Posted by j_spot on Dec-09-2004 23:33:

www.********s.com and
www.freeflatscreens.com I think


either way, I thought they were scams, but then wired and CNN did articles on them and how they werent pyramid scams, and they are actually BBB listed companies in direct marketing.


Posted by Tordan on Dec-10-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nycionx
execpt the best thing in life...

altho if u want sex without trying to get a woman and go thru the whole process (which i understand can be a bitch for many), can pay for it. so then it isnt free in that case.
otherwise it is. god bless!


No matter what way you get it, you end up paying for it one way or another.


Posted by goodnet on Dec-10-2004 00:23:

Amusing how the free ipods website URL got blocked in j_spot's post! I think those Multi-Level-Marketing sites that give away free flat panels & ipods are good until the word about those offers gets too big.

Later, everyone and thier cousin are trying to do it and then nobody wants to sign up when approached. Maybe i'm wrong though!


Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-10-2004 00:31:

if something is too good to be true, you are missing some condition/term somewhere...


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-10-2004 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
www.********s.com and
www.freeflatscreens.com I think


either way, I thought they were scams, but then wired and CNN did articles on them and how they werent pyramid scams, and they are actually BBB listed companies in direct marketing.

Seems that they all have the same terms and conditions; the people you refer actually have to sign up for something, they can't just register. That's where they get you - most of the people who sign up probably don't realize this and think that they only need to get their friends to register - getting them to actually buy something is another story.

Their claims are legit in the sense that they'll send you your prize if you refer people who sign up for offers, but they probably end up giving out very few prizes because most people don't buy anything. I can see how that works so well from a marketing perspective: if it spreads to 50,000 people and only a handful of say, 5000 scattered individuals actually sign up for something, they're basically getting a pantload of free advertising.

It's actually kind of funny when you think about it - the e-MLM business strategy revolves around the hope that 1 out of 5 people WON'T buy anything.


Posted by tatgirl on Dec-10-2004 03:35:

It's probably a piece of shit digicam anyways.

Now if u really want something good, I have a nice bridge for sale, just for you, nycionx!


Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-10-2004 03:48:

Let y'all in on some insight here:

I'm in the imarketing/iadvertising business. CPA (cost-per-acquisition) model type of marketing campaigns are nothing new to the ad biz - they've been around for ages. Offline it's called Direct Response (DR).

What the internet has done however, is that it has given the end-purchaser/act'er the ability to share in the revenue that is generated on the action (sale, sign-up, registration, response, etc).

Be happy - in the "old world" you wouldn't get shit for doing an action (other than the direct benifit).

Offline - how do you think a big chunk of the infomercials on TV are paid for? You got it - DR (CPA). Same goes for a chunk of all the direct mail - they usually all have some DR/CPA component to the media spend.

So.... Back to the question at hand:

Is this legit? Possibly. Some of these guys actually DO send product if you complete the (usually) detailed requirements. Some make the requirements so difficult that it is impossible to complete - so beware.

However - if you're that desperate for cash/goods - I can send you 100s of DR/CPA type of advertisers who you can sign-up for and collect the revenue yourself. I get probably 10 to 15 phone calls per day from companies saying "promote my shit, i'll give you $X for every action". The $X ranges from a few $ to a few hundred $ depending on the action.

As a matter of habbit I turn them all down, as I believe that any promotion or media spend has SOME branding value and thus should have SOME up-front cost to go with it (not just DR/CPA based).

It's a pretty damn good proposition for an advertiser/marketer - only pay for the media/promotion if someone actually acts/buys - but it completely ignores that EVERY TIME somone sees a product or brand, there is value to the advertiser/marketer.

Ok, too much thinking for one night.

edit: excuse the typing/grammar - i typed this as fast as i could because i don't want to spend my night thinking about business - that is what 9 to 5 is for.



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