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Posted by starsearcher on Dec-11-2004 19:56:

Cool New MSN features...

So my friend works for Microsoft and he's been introducing me to some of these new things they are rolling out, really cool fun stuff...

First of all MSN 7 Beta is now officially released - http://messenger.msn.com/beta ...

And another cool feature which I'm currently using (just started really) is the MSN Spaces - you can post pictures, create blogs, and etc - I'm pretty sure it's connected to MSN 7 as well

http://spaces.msn.com --> check it out

Here's mine so far... http://spaces.msn.com/members/digitalpunk/


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-11-2004 19:57:



where's the offline messaging .. ?? man ICQ had that YEARS ago ..




Posted by starsearcher on Dec-11-2004 19:59:

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Originally posted by dEsidEL


where's the offline messaging .. ?? man ICQ had that YEARS ago ..





I-C-Q.... ah the good old days


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2004 20:57:

Ah, to be so easily impressed...


Seriously, ICQ had almost all those features years ago. Message history? Set status before logon? Contact cards? Sheesh, I guess at least they're catching up...


Posted by Durafei on Dec-11-2004 21:12:

And speaking of MSN Spaces, MS is again playing a catch-up game. It's amazing how they always miss to innovate when they need it the most, and only after realizing the potential of the product, they start releasing it. And just to re-emhphasize how popular blogging is right now, www.blogger.com is Google's 3rd most popular product after Search and News.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2004 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
And speaking of MSN Spaces, MS is again playing a catch-up game. It's amazing how they always miss to innovate when they need it the most, and only after realizing the potential of the product, they start releasing it. And just to re-emhphasize how popular blogging is right now, www.blogger.com is Google's 3rd most popular product after Search and News.

Too bad they seem to have so much trouble separating the blogs and the search. As if anyone wants to get 5000 blog results when they search for pages on finance or economics or even pages on .NET. I want research material, not the opinion of Yet Another Goddamn Moron Who Shouldn't Be Given A Public Voice!

Since Google claims to be such an innovator, why haven't they come up with an option to filter out all those f*cking blog results? I hate having to type "-blog -blogs -blogspot -journal -journals -diary -webjournal -weblog" etc. to the end of every friggin' query.

Blogs = worst invention since Reality TV.


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-11-2004 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Ah, to be so easily impressed...


Seriously, ICQ had almost all those features years ago. Message history? Set status before logon? Contact cards? Sheesh, I guess at least they're catching up...




wow i agree


Posted by Durafei on Dec-11-2004 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I want research material, not the opinion of Yet Another Goddamn Moron Who Shouldn't Be Given A Public Voice!


Obviously there are a bunch of idiots who are blogging. But on the other hand, you get a chance read blogs by some of the main guys in the industry like Adam Bosworth(who is responsible for MS Access, IE, and currently VP at Google), James Gosling (inventor of Java) etc, etc, etc.

quote:

Blogs = worst invention since Reality TV.

You couldn't be more wrong.

quote:
Too bad they seem to have so much trouble separating the blogs and the search. As if anyone wants to get 5000 blog results when they search for pages on finance or economics or even pages on .NET. I want research material, not the opinion of Yet Another Goddamn Moron Who Shouldn't Be Given A Public Voice!


Use scholar.google.com if you want research material


Posted by Durafei on Dec-11-2004 21:50:

BTW, I just installed MSN Messenger 7.. First impression: IT SUCKS! Is there any way to get rid of the tabs(Alerts, Lava Life etc), and the advertisements at the bottom ?

I actually wonder who is the genius behind some of these tabs. People use MSN messenger for day-to-day instant messaging, not for day-to-day job/love finding... ridiculous !!


Posted by starsearcher on Dec-11-2004 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
BTW, I just installed MSN Messenger 7.. First impression: IT SUCKS! Is there any way to get rid of the tabs(Alerts, Lava Life etc), and the advertisements at the bottom ?

I actually wonder who is the genius behind some of these tabs. People use MSN messenger for day-to-day instant messaging, not for day-to-day job/love finding... ridiculous !!




Hehehe then i wouldn't suggest on checking out some extra smily face features/themes


Posted by VERTiG0 on Dec-11-2004 22:16:

TRILLIAN 2.01 PRO 4 LYFE


Posted by Crazy Serb on Dec-11-2004 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
BTW, I just installed MSN Messenger 7.. First impression: IT SUCKS! Is there any way to get rid of the tabs(Alerts, Lava Life etc), and the advertisements at the bottom ?

I actually wonder who is the genius behind some of these tabs. People use MSN messenger for day-to-day instant messaging, not for day-to-day job/love finding... ridiculous !!


That THING is waaaay too bloated with ads and features that us normal people won't use even if our life depended on it... It's so filled with unnecessary features and tabs that I got sick after using it for 2 minutes. Needless to say it can't even come close to apps like Trillian. Not yet, not ever. Friggin' mini-billboard for MS...

Too bad ICQ got bloated as well in the last couple of years. Then again, it's nowhere annoying as the MSN Messenger... I still don't get it how can people even look at that on a daily basis.

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Hehehe then i wouldn't suggest on checking out some extra smily face features/themes


that's like ricing up the shitbox to the max...

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
TRILLIAN 2.01 PRO 4 LYFE


Trillian 3.0 4 life, foo!


Posted by starsearcher on Dec-11-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb



that's like ricing up the shitbox to the max...


No they are just starting to actually charge $$ for themes and emoticons


Posted by VERTiG0 on Dec-11-2004 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb

Trillian 3.0 4 life, foo!


Oh shit

Do you have to "pay" for this?


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2004 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Obviously there are a bunch of idiots who are blogging. But on the other hand, you get a chance read blogs by some of the main guys in the industry like Adam Bosworth(who is responsible for MS Access, IE, and currently VP at Google), James Gosling (inventor of Java) etc, etc, etc.

Yeah but those guys have their own web sites, they don't need to clutter up the internet with more pages on blogspot and diaryland and whatever else is out there. Those sites should die NOW. I have NEVER seen anything worth reading on any of them, they're mostly full of dumb cam sluts who think that they're models and that their meaningless lives are actually important to someone.

And even if there were useful pages - so what, why shouldn't we have the option to exclude them from our searches if that isn't what we're looking for? I'm 100% sure that the google bot knows when it's crawling a blog - it can't be that hard to flag them.

quote:
Use scholar.google.com if you want research material

Now there's something that actually looks useful for once! Let's hope they manage to avoid cluttering it up with crap this time!

Oh and:
quote:
BTW, I just installed MSN Messenger 7.. First impression: IT SUCKS! Is there any way to get rid of the tabs(Alerts, Lava Life etc), and the advertisements at the bottom ?

Those tabs have been there since version 6! Where have you been? I think you can still use Messenger Plus to get rid of them, but I heard rumours a while back that it had become infested with spyware.

Personally, I prefer Miranda. Trillian's alright, but the team really needs to be more active with fulfilling user requests. They took forever just to implement ICQ's server-side contact list.

Paying for emoticons... that's hysterical, I'll bet that some airheads will actually do it too.


Posted by Durafei on Dec-11-2004 23:24:

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I have NEVER seen anything worth reading on any of them, they're mostly full of dumb cam sluts who think that they're models and that their meaningless lives are actually important to someone.


Again.. I'm not sure what kind of blogs you've been reading, but I've learnt tremendous amount of informations (mostly programming related though) from these blogs. Whenever I have a problem now, I just search for it, and in many cases there is a blog describing how to solve it.

I'm also using FeedReader and currently subscribed to at least 20 different blogs of interest that I read on a regular basis. (my favourite blog is of course www.joelonsoftware.com)

Also keep in mind that even though blogging is already very popular, it still is far far far from the peak of it's popularity. Blogs allow users to express their opinions, knowledge etc - thus making it accessible to everyone. As more people start blogging, this collective knowledge available online will increase substantially, and as search engine become even better, it will be far easier for us to find what we are looking for.

And of course Blogging is a great way to communicate about yourself to your friends and family.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2004 23:25:

Again, these blogs are from companies or people with established websites - how many useful blogs have you seen on the mass-producing blog sites? They're the equivalent of GeoCities/Yahoo or Angelfire web pages.


Posted by St_Andrew on Dec-11-2004 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Use scholar.google.com if you want research material


cool

anyway, i have heard soo much bad about msn 7 so i wont even bother testing it


Posted by Callie5 on Dec-12-2004 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
BTW, I just installed MSN Messenger 7.. First impression: IT SUCKS! Is there any way to get rid of the tabs(Alerts, Lava Life etc), and the advertisements at the bottom ?

I actually wonder who is the genius behind some of these tabs. People use MSN messenger for day-to-day instant messaging, not for day-to-day job/love finding... ridiculous !!


[Message from NEWR] Get MSN plus and Stuffplus-NG those add-ons have an option to install ad-ware... say no to this... but it gets rid of all those extra shitty features that MSN has... and adds some pretty cool ones
[/Message from NEWR]


Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Dec-12-2004 00:30:

how about a nice update for the mac version? maybe from v.4-5?

meh, I used Adium anyways..


Posted by Crazy Serb on Dec-12-2004 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Paying for emoticons... that's hysterical, I'll bet that some airheads will actually do it too.


there's always some geniuses who will fall for that one...


quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Oh shit

Do you have to "pay" for this?


the same way you "pay" for all the other software out there...



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