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buying second hand/on eBay...
what have your experiences been so far with second hand stuff from eBay?
and another thing... why is it you have auctions with Buy it Now, with brand new, in it's box, equipment, at amazingly low prices? how is this possible?
i have purchased (and sold) many things on ebay..so far *crosses fingers* every transaction has been smooth.
As for buy it now, it is a way to catch the "impulse" buyers attention, and make quick sales. The buyer dosnt have to worry about bidding and playing games to get what they want. The people who have extremely low prices are the ones who play big. They have $$$ and spend alot of it to be able to offer goods @ those prices. There is no room for the little guy on Ebay anymore unless you find a unique niche or items that are not so popular..
hope that helps.
Jay
i personally wouldnt buy dj material on ebay,for many reasons like being jipped. There is no warranty on the item from the seller,if its screwed up and they lied,than you are screwed. Happened to my friend when he was buying a DJM-600..on channels faders didnt work at all,and the guy posted that it was in perfect condition, my friend emailed him and he saids he cant do anything "You get what you pay for".
i bought my equipment from ebay. it was in perfect condition, still in its original boxes. awesome deal.. for expensive purchases make sure seller has alot of good feedback
-razzi
I prefer craigslist, if you live near a major city: http://www.craigslist.org/
I got two Numark TTX1s in like new condition for $225 each.
I got my mixer off ebay, was and is mint. (�100 (us$200ish) cheaper too)
so basically you guys are saying eBay is generally safe?
now, what happens if say, the seller sold me a screwed up item in good faith. ie, it was factory defective. what would i be able to do?
i dont think anything,unless he provides you with a warranty.And yea it is generally safe but there are times where oy ahev to look out for the positive feedbacks ect, what kind of knowledge he has wiht the item and what others bought and in what condition it was.
I've been kinda screwed before, but you just have to be an asshole about getting the right product or your money back if that happens. It's the seller's responsibility to provide you with the right product. Just be careful, read the auction description carefully, check the seller's feedback, be wary of strange requests like wiring money etc.
The warrentee is only good for the kind of stuff you are talking about, from authorized dealers. If they say it comes with a warrentee, you better make sure that seller is an authorized dealer (there are a few that are).
My main thing is looking at their feedback and what they have sold in the past. I also try to find items that are near me (since I live near a large city, it is a bit easier) first to see if I can pick them up. Make sure you check shipping costs as sellers love to jack them up for profit.
Two things;
1) Never deal with anyone with negative/very low feedback
2) Post them a cheque - so you have their address if they stitch you up....
i've probably saved thousands by now buying stuff from eBay, I'm really good at finding good deals.
You just have to know exactly what you want and how much it's really worth... then be patient and keep searching eBay for what you want. you also need to understand how to spot a scam or bullsh*t seller.
alot of the time somoene will improperly list something.. omit an important keyword or put it in the wrong category -- so not that many people find it that are actually looking for that item... and the bid price wont go up that much. 
i've taken a good amount of items that way... some of them rediciously cheap.
I've only had a few problems with eBayer's...
a) one dipshit tried to stiff me for $7.50. never sent the item. big whoop.
b) another tardmonkey decided to not respond to my eMails, and sent the item a month late. still got a nice PA cab for $60 thou!
c) and yet another moron tried to rip me off on shipping (more than what was stated in the auction) because the bid closed real low -- he ended up having to relist :P
it's also worked the opposite way:
a) one guy sent me the wrong item, and when I asked him to send the right item he did, but said I could keep the wrong one. fine with me, I turned right around and resold it. so i ended up with a nice USB kit and a few bucks in profit.
b) one seller didnt quite understand how to compute shipping costs and accepted $30 to ship a 90lb subwoofer. The actual UPS cost was nearly $100, but he admited he misquoted and ate it.
all in all, the minor problems i've experienced are far eclipsed by the amount of cash i've saved, and items i've found that I couldnt find elsewhere.
I purchased one of my decks on ebay and I buy replacement stylii for my whitelabels through ebay because nobody carries them where I live. I Paid $210 for an SL1200MK2 and it works great.
How much can you believe to the feedback score? Isnt there a way to cheat it?
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| Originally posted by DJ_Hailstone How much can you believe to the feedback score? Isnt there a way to cheat it? |
ebay has a reputation for being full of scammers and there are pretty blatant scams running on there its true - someone has already listed an access virus TI for sale - access havent even shipped these out. he also has 0 feedback.
ive bought 3 items from ebay. all peices of studio equipment. all arrived, all were as described, all were significantly cheaper than buying new.
these items were an m-audio delta 1010 MIDI interface, which hadnt even been opened so it was brand new. that was nice. got an alesis MEQ230 second for about �50. the unit i was sent was defective though and the power supply blew. but i emailed him politely drawing this to the seller's attention and he offered to replace the unit out of his own pocket and pay for the delivery. in the end i refunded him the delivery cuz it seemed like he was getting a raw deal out of it. very nice person.
last item i bought was an access virus b desktop synth. massively cheaper that the buying the access virus classic (which is basically a virus b with a new paint job). i got it for �390 + �15 shipping. virus classic retails for at least �669.99 not including shipping.
the unit was second hand but the item description was accurate. if you purchase an item and it is not as described (i.e. broken or there is some significant damage to the unit, cosmetic or otherwise that was not in the item description then thats fraud and you can file a complaint with ebay (they probably wont do anythign about it but the law is on your side if you wish to push it). the virus however, was in excellent condition. no cosmetic defects except for a tiny, less than 1mm indentation on the left wooden side panel and the fact that it had a little bit of dust on it from lack of use and some dead skin on the rotaries. once i cleaned it up and polished it, it looked practically brand new. very happy with that purchase.
out of principle, i wont buy any studio equipment brand new. its stupidly expensive. most of the reputable seller's on ebay sell cheaper than retail because they dont need to cover such large overheads that some companies like turnkey do. turnkey has to pay for storage space, telephone staff, customer support staff etc. alot of ebay merchants are just people that buy in bulk or get deals off unused stock and store it in their spare room and sell online. also, because of ebay's reputation for being a hive of scammers, most are forced to sell significantly cheaper than retail in order to compete. if they have lots of feedback and are 100% sellers then they are usually very trustworthy.
fingers crossed i havent been scammed yet, but if you use your credit card for purchases (NOT debit card) you can in most cases file for a chargeback with your creditcard company. if you also contact ebay and file a non performing seller, they will help you get your chargeback. credit card transactions are also traceable to a postal code and address so they can be chased up, although ebay themselves are admittedly slack at doing this, you'll end up having to do it yourself most likely. worst case scenario, buyer protection can give you a partial refund up to the amount of �250. its up to �500 over christmas though.
When buying records it's worth getting postal insurance. I have a small shop on there and so many records are going missing or taken stupidly long times to turn up. It's a problem that seems to be getting worse so much so I'am gonna close my shop.
i got my 2 str8 100's and carts from ebay, smooth and perfect.
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| Originally posted by TranceSpeeder i got my 2 str8 100's and carts from ebay, smooth and perfect. |
eBay is for those who still believe people can be honest & thats lady luck can shine on you any time 
most of the useful advise has allready been mentioned on this thread.. check feedback, investigate negative feedbacks, check history of PRODUCTS SOLD.
i bought a year old dj rig - grundorf case, 2 pioneer cdj500MKII ltd, a djm300 mixer..and some extras (wires, mic, headphones etc) for close to 1/2 the market price
another way people are able to sell cheap are cos they buy 2nd hand items at bulk 'estate auctions'.....
good luck & stay safe
I bought both of my Techs from eBay (came with ortofon concordes), paid $650 for the pair.
I bought my whole setup over ebay. 1/3 of my records came from there as well. Always look at the feedback....always.
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