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Posted by dj_aria on Dec-12-2004 23:26:

What mixer do you prefer?

So 2 top of the line companies, Pioneer,Allen & Heath. Which do you prefer as your mixer?

I tested myself the mixer im getting for christmas today, the Xone:32. Love the thing to death so far cant wait till i get it.

Posted by beats and beeps on Dec-12-2004 23:31:

I certainly wouldnt call those the top 2 companies.

Anyways, its really hard to compare those two companies.

Pioneer makes effect filled mixers. See:909

Allen and heath make more minimalistic good quality mixers.

They are really not suited for the same mixing styles.

Posted by sym on Dec-13-2004 00:00:

There is also Rane.

Posted by dj_aria on Dec-13-2004 00:01:

didnt say they were top 2,but top of the line as in great mixers.

Posted by Vlad on Dec-13-2004 00:01:

Id say Urei, Rane, Allen & Heath and Ecler.

Posted by Dhagor on Dec-13-2004 00:16:

All mixers have their little pros'n'cons so I haven't touched 'the perfect' mixer yet. But A&H Xone series (specially 62 what I also have myself) gets my thumbs up.

Posted by T-Soma on Dec-13-2004 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
I certainly wouldnt call those the top 2 companies.

Anyways, its really hard to compare those two companies.

Pioneer makes effect filled mixers. See:909

Allen and heath make more minimalistic good quality mixers.

They are really not suited for the same mixing styles.

Pioneer mixers like the djm300 djm600 etc are not realy battle style mixers. The 909 is for turntabilists is what you are saying?

Posted by dj_aria on Dec-13-2004 01:47:

From the reviews i have seen the 909's are really high acclaimed mixers for hip hop dj's / turntablists alike.I think tahts what hes saying

Posted by Zack Roth on Dec-13-2004 02:10:

I've owned an Allen and heath Xone:62, Pioneer DJM600 and I now own a Xone: 92 with Rotaries.

If I had to rank them in terms of my preference...

1. Xone: 92 obviously
2. Pioneer DJM600
3. Allen and Heath Xone: 62

The Xone: 92 is much more expensive than the other two, so I'll put it into a seperate category. In terms of both companies two equivilantly priced mixers, I'd definitely have to say that I like Pioneer better. The effects were cool and useful, the mixer had a very comfortable feel. The Xone: 62 I really disliked. I didn't like the layout, lack of beign able to hear eq changes in the headphones, and the sound quality through the headphone output.I took back the Xone: 62 and got the Pioneer which I loved. Again, if I had a vertain amount of money, under $2000 of course to spend on a mixer, I'd go with Pioneer. I like the DJM-600 better than the Xone: 62 and I would much rather have a DJM3000 or DJM500 over the Xone: 32.

Posted by onceler on Dec-13-2004 04:45:

I'm not a big fan of Pioneer's build quality and overall sound quality. I have owned or been a partial owner of (2) DJM-500's for around 7 years or so. I have seen firsthand how they age. To me, the only reason to get a Pioneer would be the need for easy effects. The effects on the Ecler are a little more in-depth and take a bit of getting used to while the A&H don't have effects (other than the LFO or whatever that one thing they have on there).

Posted by Tegu on Dec-13-2004 05:20:

DN-X1500 ALL TEH WAY BABY

Posted by dj chex on Dec-13-2004 06:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Id say Urei, Rane, Allen & Heath and Ecler.

+1

Rane's tech support is great and quality is top notch. When i need a mixer, i need a mixer. Not a mixer/effects processor/coffee maker.

Urei is just classic. I like anyone else would love to get a urei 1620 or bozak cma-10, but since they haven't been produced for over 20 years, they're hard to come by.

Posted by tu_face on Dec-13-2004 14:43:

for sheer usability and versatility, i prefer to use the pioneer over the allen & heath, it suits my style more and you can do more with it.

i agree, the build quality and sound quality are not as good as the a&h mixers, but they just work nicererer IMO.

but yeah, there are other mixers about which pan the djm600 to the floor now anyway.

Posted by Vlad on Dec-13-2004 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
Urei is just classic. I like anyone else would love to get a urei 1620 or bozak cma-10, but since they haven't been produced for over 20 years, they're hard to come by.

Even if you do find a Urei or Bozak, finding phono cards for the mixers are almost an impossibility, and they are so old, that some might not work well.

But to my knowledge Soundcraft is remaking the Urei and releasing a newer version of it sometime in the future.

Posted by onceler on Dec-13-2004 18:22:

Isnt the Rane 2016 based off the Urei or Bozak?

Posted by Unknown DJ on Dec-13-2004 21:53:

i havent used the djm. as i find it boring. been out for too long. ive tryed the denon dnx 1500. was ok. not that good. the xone 62 was good. but i prefer the ecler nuo 5 over all of them. hence y i brought one

Posted by denys envy on Dec-14-2004 06:04:

i have a vestax and it's doing alright for me

Posted by scribey on Dec-16-2004 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by onceler
I'm not a big fan of Pioneer's build quality and overall sound quality. I have owned or been a partial owner of (2) DJM-500's for around 7 years or so. I have seen firsthand how they age. To me, the only reason to get a Pioneer would be the need for easy effects. The effects on the Ecler are a little more in-depth and take a bit of getting used to while the A&H don't have effects (other than the LFO or whatever that one thing they have on there).

A&H have VCF filters which are alot more diverse than the lill effects on a DJM.

Posted by djtrinity on Dec-16-2004 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by onceler
Isnt the Rane 2016 based off the Urei or Bozak?

yes but sounds nothing like it

Posted by djtrinity on Dec-16-2004 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Even if you do find a Urei or Bozak, finding phono cards for the mixers are almost an impossibility, and they are so old, that some might not work well.

But to my knowledge Soundcraft is remaking the Urei and releasing a newer version of it sometime in the future.

u'd be surprised parts are not that hard to come by for the UREI...the bozak is a little tougher but still can be gotten pretty easily.

Posted by tu_face on Dec-17-2004 09:43:

quote:
Originally posted by scribey
A&H have VCF filters which are alot more diverse than the lill effects on a DJM.

well, no, they are not. you have 3 filters, thats it. granted, they are amazing filters, and completely outclass the filter on the djm mixers, but the djm mixers also have delay, echo, pan, transform, reverb, flange, zip (pitch) + the 600 & 3000 has a sampler. i would say the djm mixers have more diverse effects