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Is this pic offensive?
Does anyone think that this pic is offensive?
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| New York Art Shuttered After Bush Monkey Portrait Mon Dec 13, 2004 03:57 PM ET By Larry Fine NEW YORK (Reuters) - A portrait of President Bush using monkeys to form his image led to the closure of a New York art exhibition over the weekend and anguished protests on Monday over freedom of expression. "Bush Monkeys," a small acrylic on canvas by Chris Savido, created the stir at the Chelsea Market public space, leading the market's managers to close down the 60-piece show that was scheduled to stay up for the next month. The show featured art from the upcoming issue of Animal Magazine, a quarterly publication featuring emerging artists. "We had tons of people, like more than 2,000 people show up for the opening on Thursday night," said show organizer Bucky Turco. "Then this manager saw the piece and the guy just kind of flipped out. 'The show is over. Get this work down or I'm gonna arrest you,' he said. It's been kind of wild." Turco took the show down on Saturday and moved the art work to his small downtown Animal Gallery. Calls to the management of Chelsea Market for comment were not returned. From afar, the painting offers a likeness of Bush, but when you get closer you see the image is made up of chimpanzees or monkeys swimming in a marsh. Savido, 23, said he was surprised by the strong reaction to his painting, listed in the catalog at $3,500. "It seems like people got a kick out of it," Savido said. "When they really see it, they almost do a double-take. I like to get a reaction from people." The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-bred artist said he was happy for all the attention paid to his work but said the decision to shutter the exhibit was "a blatant act of censorship." Savido plans to auction the painting and donate proceeds to an organization dedicated to freedom of expression. "This is much deeper than art. This is fundamental American rights, freedom of speech," Savido said. "To see that something like this can happen, especially in a place like New York City is mind boggling and scary." |
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Nope. I think they should put up everywhere like that North Korean President.
Not offensive.
Next case.
No.
art shouldnt be censured, right yoepus? 
gotta be a publicity stunt to jack the price up. you know liberal that part of Manhattan is?
not buyin that for a minute.
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew No. art shouldnt be censured, right yoepus? |
Think its more interesting than offensive..i didnt figure it was monkeys till i read the text..there is a brazilian artist who is quite famous and hes doing this stuff for years ye know making pictures from unusual objects..but his stuff is amazing and on huge scale and can i remember his name no..is it offensive no
I thought it was dog shit at first, but now I can see that it's actually George Bush
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| Originally posted by George Smiley I thought it was dog shit at first, but now I can see that it's actually George Bush |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew No. art shouldnt be censured, right yoepus? |
No... True Art ain't offensive in any form, although the term "True Art" is rather subjective and for debate; however, i'm still relunctant to accept comtemporary forms of "art" 
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Nonetheless, this whole post reminds me of a Simpsons episode when Michangelo's David visited Springfield museum 
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| Originally posted by Q5echo de�ceive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-sv) v. de�ceived, de�ceiv�ing, de�ceives v. tr. 1. To cause to believe what is not true; mislead. 2. Archaic. To catch by guile; ensnare. v. intr. To practice deceit. To give a false impression: appearances can deceive. [Middle English deceiven, from Old French deceveir, from Vulgar Latin *dcipre, from Latin dcipere, to ensnare, deceive : d-, de- + capere, to seize; see kap- in Indo-European Roots.] crazy, huh? |
I'm hoping to find Bush in my toast this week so I can sell it for $28,000
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| Originally posted by zig Think its more interesting than offensive..i didnt figure it was monkeys till i read the text..there is a brazilian artist who is quite famous and hes doing this stuff for years ye know making pictures from unusual objects..but his stuff is amazing and on huge scale and can i remember his name no..is it offensive no |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew i didnt see what it was either at first... but i guess some people are just picky... |
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and yoepus, as kaffeemeister said, whats the difference between art and non art? |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus Mean either, I think this is a publicity ploy - I don't think anybody really cares. |
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| What's the difference between nude art and porn? You know it when I see it. |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew you might be right... |
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| well, i dont think everyone in the world would agree with you... just because you dont think anything is art, it might mean someone else think its art and vice versa.... |
Art is VERY subjective.
For example most people wouldn't think that this following work from Marcel Duchamp "Bicycle Wheel" is art but it is one of his most famous pieces.
Even me, as an art major in college, if I didn't know that Marcel Duchamp created the work and realized his statements in his early 1900 exhibition work then I would be like "why the hell is there a bicycle wheel in a stool?".
I think that work is obvious as art because it is using a medium to express a statement which would classify it as art.
But Dechamps had a purpose of bringing new concepts (and questions) to art, which have already been worked on.
I agree with you that art is very subjective, but there's a difference between being a genious and being a derivative mediocre.
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| Originally posted by zig Think its more interesting than offensive..i didnt figure it was monkeys till i read the text..there is a brazilian artist who is quite famous and hes doing this stuff for years ye know making pictures from unusual objects..but his stuff is amazing and on huge scale and can i remember his name no..is it offensive no |
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didn't they have a portrait of jesus made with poo a couple of years ago??? and that was allowed to stay?
Jesus>Bush
I know there was a exhibition of the piss christ which was made out of urine (or a urine like substance). It is pretty famous but is in most of the newer art books.
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| Originally posted by Yoepus I meant you know it when you see. Not when I see it, that was a typo. The US Supreme Court has a community test though to judge what is art and what is not. If a certain X ppl in a community think the work is art, its art, if a certain X ppl in the community don't think its art, its not. I think the soceity test is a good way to indeed determine such things. |
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| Originally posted by Aristronica Jesus>Bush |
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