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Posted by trance85 on Dec-18-2004 01:18:

Mixing without amp + speakers

Hey everyone.

When I joined here a month or so ago, people gave me recommendations on what kind of decks, mixer, and headphones I should buy.

But I was just curious about speakers and an amplifier, is it generally considered good for a beginner DJ to use only headphones? I mean I'm just starting out and have a fixed budget, but from what I've been hearing, DJing with only headphones is a bad way to practice and begin.

Should I save money up for speakers and an amp?


Posted by trance85 on Dec-18-2004 01:53:

Well... yea ... thats what comfy headphones are for though , nonetheless -- what do you and the rest of TA think?


Posted by djlemeir on Dec-18-2004 02:00:

u prolly have a stereo with an input
and ur headfones can be as comfy as possible, but u have to take em offf once in a while


Posted by trance85 on Dec-18-2004 02:07:

Is there any way to hook it up to my computer?

I really don't think I'll be able to afford speakers and an amp for a while, but my computer speakers and bass unit are decent (for a computer) -- hell its better than nothing.


Posted by T-Soma on Dec-18-2004 04:05:


Get one of these and you can plug your mixer right into your souncard or computer speakers, or just about any other home stereos, tvs etc...


Posted by trance85 on Dec-18-2004 04:31:

^ I'll look into it ^


Posted by visje on Dec-18-2004 09:26:

dont know hom much u spend but u can also get some active monitors saves from not having to buy an amp


Posted by djxtension on Dec-18-2004 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by visje
dont know hom much u spend but u can also get some active monitors saves from not having to buy an amp


Although active monitors are usually quite a bit more expensive than regular ones.

Speakers are usually something that is necessary to be able to mix well. If you have to play in a club one day, and you've never mixed through speakers, you are going to have a very hard time mixing...

Any speakers will do for now, you can always buy some better speakers later on.


Posted by trance85 on Dec-19-2004 02:43:

Can anyone list some good beginner/budget speakers and amplifier?


Posted by Sunnyside on Dec-20-2004 13:06:

Just get some shitty little powered speakers for �50, and then buy better ones when you got the paperwork - Sapphires sell some cheap sets, www.decks.co.uk


Posted by Eric Siefer on Dec-20-2004 18:02:

I just have my mixer running into my stereo, an old Sony I got from a pawn shop. Not the best but it definitely gets the job done.


Posted by trance85 on Dec-21-2004 09:48:

Well I'll look into getting some cheap speakers and an amp,

but in the meantime does anyone know anything about the "SoundMAX Integrated Audio" soundcard? It came with my computer, I think I'd have to have a line-in to get the music to play through my computer and to record to my computer also (I'd also be interested in recording my mixes since I'm just starting, and it'll give me something to listen to on the way to class for practice and stuff).

Also can anyone give me some price-feasible recommendations on speakers + amplifier or active monitors? (btw, monitors are essentially just speakers and amp in one right?) thanks.


Posted by dj jasonF on Dec-21-2004 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by trance85
Well I'll look into getting some cheap speakers and an amp,

but in the meantime does anyone know anything about the "SoundMAX Integrated Audio" soundcard? It came with my computer, I think I'd have to have a line-in to get the music to play through my computer and to record to my computer also (I'd also be interested in recording my mixes since I'm just starting, and it'll give me something to listen to on the way to class for practice and stuff).

Also can anyone give me some price-feasible recommendations on speakers + amplifier or active monitors? (btw, monitors are essentially just speakers and amp in one right?) thanks.


get two(one for being able to hear from the comp and one for recording, [maybe you dont even need two]) rca to soundcard (dont remember the type). i would get the golden one which have better sound quallity with no losses. they are not expencive 4pounds maybe.


Posted by Inertia on Dec-21-2004 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by djxtension
Although active monitors are usually quite a bit more expensive than regular ones.

Speakers are usually something that is necessary to be able to mix well. If you have to play in a club one day, and you've never mixed through speakers, you are going to have a very hard time mixing...

Any speakers will do for now, you can always buy some better speakers later on.


not completely true. i used to rely on one ear monitoring, till i was forced to mix without monitors at all, and a mixer with no split cue. i had to settle using the PFL/PGM fader gradually. i spent about a week like this, mixing heavily, at least 5 hours a day.

next time i got to use monitors, it was A LOT easier. my skills were a lot better because of that week.

anyways, to me, monitors (aside from using one ear monitoring, which isn't really indispensable in a bedroom) are just a commodity for when you want to take your phones off and listen to the "live music. either way, i've been one to dance whilst wearing my phones when i have no monitors, heh.


Posted by djxtension on Dec-22-2004 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
not completely true. i used to rely on one ear monitoring, till i was forced to mix without monitors at all, and a mixer with no split cue. i had to settle using the PFL/PGM fader gradually. i spent about a week like this, mixing heavily, at least 5 hours a day.

next time i got to use monitors, it was A LOT easier. my skills were a lot better because of that week.

anyways, to me, monitors (aside from using one ear monitoring, which isn't really indispensable in a bedroom) are just a commodity for when you want to take your phones off and listen to the "live music. either way, i've been one to dance whilst wearing my phones when i have no monitors, heh.


Well, you are right. But since he is mixing in his bedroom, he probably won't have a 10+ kW speakersystem installed, and that kinda makes monitors essential...


Posted by trance85 on Dec-22-2004 10:32:

quote:
Well, you are right. But since he is mixing in his bedroom, he probably won't have a 10+ kW speakersystem installed, and that kinda makes monitors essential...


+1. I don't have any speakers or an amp, thats why I asked if I should buy monitors instead (since speakers + amp installed, right?).

quote:
get two(one for being able to hear from the comp and one for recording, [maybe you dont even need two]) rca to soundcard (dont remember the type). i would get the golden one which have better sound quallity with no losses. they are not expencive 4pounds maybe.


4 pounds each? for a sound card I could use to record with, and for one for hearing? Really?


Posted by djxtension on Dec-22-2004 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by trance85
4 pounds each? for a sound card I could use to record with, and for one for hearing? Really?


Really! But only if you call now!

No seriously, 4 pounds for a soundcard is way too cheap if you want something decent. I would recommend buying something at around 20 or 30 pounds. The sound-quality will be much better.


Posted by trance85 on Dec-22-2004 11:12:

Alright, I did think that sounded too good to be true :P I'll look into spending up to $50 on one, but I still want monitors or amp + speakers, suggestions on monitors or amp + speakers combo?


Posted by trance85 on Dec-31-2004 23:01:

Hmmm, well I just sold a few things and got a bunch of money for xmas, plus I transferred one of my bank accounts at home to my bank account here, so I got more money to throw around. I'd probably be willing to spend a couple hundred dollars (U.S. dollars) if anyone has any other suggestions on monitors, or amplifier + speakers. ?

edit: also...totally unrelated, but is the only difference between the technic 1200 m3d and mk2 / other models the unhingeable dust covers on the m3ds and the no lock at 0 for pitch?



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