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Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-19-2004 03:23:

McProgressive

McProgressive : aka McProg aka McCheese Aka MarkusCheeseProg

What makes a tune mcprog?

Simple:

Step 1 should be "send it to GDJB so Markus can play it"

a)Work Really Hard On A Tune You Think Is Progressive Then Send It To Markus Schulz.

Step 2 Markus Schulz plays it for several weeks on GDJB which little mcprog addicts pee their pants yelling tune of the year.

Step 3 Markus Passes the tune to Armin Van Buuren and AVB features it on his New Tunes selections

Step 4 AVB plays it on ASOT For 50 weeks in a row and literally beats the tune inside out.

Step 5 Get it signed to avb's label (e.g. Interstate)
McProg Seal of Approval.


Current McProg Pioneers:
Markus S.
Perry Oneil
AVB

Current Tune Being Transformed into McProg Victim:
Interstate- I found you.

Conclusion:
Markus needs to stay the hell away from Progressive


Posted by tribu on Dec-19-2004 03:24:

I want to refute what was said in this thread, but I cant, because its more or less generally true in my experience...


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-19-2004 03:33:

sad but true



^_^


Posted by Dmatrox on Dec-19-2004 03:41:

i love "mcprog". i like the style markus plays, if you dont, nobody cares either way.


Posted by tribu on Dec-19-2004 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
i love "mcprog". i like the style markus plays, if you dont, nobody cares either way.


Aye, youve got to like it, otherwise why listen to it.

I just hate the mentality that theres only one largely recognized way(even though it's two different shows) to get your music out to the public.

See TOTY voting for more info


Posted by sigmanova on Dec-19-2004 03:51:

mmm McProg...


Posted by m0sh on Dec-19-2004 03:51:

What a stupid and sad post...don't u have better things to do than bitching about markus progressive tunes?


Posted by RichieRich on Dec-19-2004 03:58:

Re: McProgressive

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
McProgressive : aka McProg aka McCheese Aka MarkusCheeseProg

What makes a tune mcprog?

Simple:

Step 1 should be "send it to GDJB so Markus can play it"

a)Work Really Hard On A Tune You Think Is Progressive Then Send It To Markus Schulz.

Step 2 Markus Schulz plays it for several weeks on GDJB which little mcprog addicts pee their pants yelling tune of the year.

Step 3 Markus Passes the tune to Armin Van Buuren and AVB features it on his New Tunes selections

Step 4 AVB plays it on ASOT For 50 weeks in a row and literally beats the tune inside out.

Step 5 Get it signed to avb's label (e.g. Interstate)
McProg Seal of Approval.


Current McProg Pioneers:
Markus S.
Perry Oneil
AVB

Current Tune Being Transformed into McProg Victim:
Interstate- I found you.

Conclusion:
Markus needs to stay away from Progressive




whine whine whine.....you sound like a 2 year old that peed in his pants


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-19-2004 04:01:

Shiloh



Posted by Ory on Dec-19-2004 04:15:

Yup, Markus should stay the hell off progressive. It's like his goal is to make it as formulaic and plain crap as anthem trance, thus making it not progressive at all.


Posted by Ian on Dec-19-2004 09:00:

someone should just buy markus & armin about 20'000 house records for xmas and let them kill that genre for a bit to let trance recover


Posted by Massive84 on Dec-19-2004 10:30:

Don't blame Markus fully...i listend sometimes to his sets, and some of them are really nice.

But the thing is are the producers where he takes his tracks from

Probspot for example, always the same sound, same perc, same same same, he plays the tracks each week. And yes canning out the same tracks every week is boring also.

He is a good dj , but he should expand his progressive selection.

A great example is Steven Hayes from TA IMO. I hardly download sets from TA, but i tried his Violet crown sessions, and it really blew me away.

And also i consider Markus prog-trance and not 100% progressive, which is sometimes very different.


Posted by Screen on Dec-19-2004 11:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84


Probspot for example, always the same sound, same perc, same same same, he plays the tracks each week. And yes canning out the same tracks every week is boring also.



Spotting a probspot track is just as easy as identifying a paul van dyk baseline.

can I get some Cheese on my Egg Mcprogin?


Posted by ryanmac on Dec-19-2004 12:19:

I couldn't agree more!


Posted by MekkaFIN on Dec-19-2004 12:44:

Cry me a river!


Posted by Plastick on Dec-19-2004 14:20:

At least this makes me venture more into the sounds of progressive. Frankly speaking, if not for Markus' GDJB, I wouldn't be into the progressive sounds now.


Posted by ctprincess on Dec-19-2004 14:21:

whatever

markus is trying to push a certain sound/style - over the past 2 years markus has developed his own style (which isn't easy IMO), so let him do whatever he wants - its his radio show and he should be allowed to play "mcprog" or any other stuff that he wants - if you don't like "mcprog" then don't listen


Posted by Cobalt on Dec-19-2004 15:37:

"American Progressive" is a better name. Describing something as "American" already has a pejorative connotation of something mass-produced with poor emphasis on quality, appealing to the lowest denominator. American news, American cars, American cheese, etc.

In addition to this negative flavor, "American progressive" is a neutral description of where the subgenre originated and has developed: In the United States. Gabriel & Dresden began the sound from San Francisco, and Markus Schulz brought it to Miami, where it has since become the dominant style.

McProg is okay as a colloquial term, but American Progressive is better as a formal label.


Posted by Streakfury on Dec-19-2004 15:39:

Why is it that when something becomes popular it automatically becomes crap?? Just because Markus and his style of prog has become more popular over the last year or two, that doesn't make what he's playing rubbish. If you don't like it, dont listen to it, and stop whining.

I hate harcore/hardstyle, so I don't listen to it. I think the people who make it should have their balls ripped off with a fishing hook, but I dont whine on the internet about it, I just dont listen to it.


Posted by noikeee on Dec-19-2004 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Why is it that when something becomes popular it automatically becomes crap?? Just because Markus and his style of prog has become more popular over the last year or two, that doesn't make what he's playing rubbish.


Actually, while your argument makes sense at first sight, i disagree. When a certain style becomes popular the tendence is for everyone to make similar stuff, until it becomes more and more standart, the producers get short of ideas, and the labels expect the tracks to follow the formula cause they sell.

But i think the "mcprog" phenomenon is a little bit more complex than that, cause when GDJB started to become popular the tracks were a bit different. With time, it started to have more and more epic trance elements.


Posted by Orbital32 on Dec-19-2004 16:10:

Have you guys had the McDonalds breakfast Deluxe. OHHHH MAN, that is gold! Pancakes, hashbrown, 2 eggs, muffin, sauguage, and OJ. All for about $4.50 here in CA. Damn will that shit fill you up! you guys should tryit... its really damn good


Posted by noikeee on Dec-19-2004 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
Have you guys had the McDonalds breakfast Deluxe. OHHHH MAN, that is gold! Pancakes, hashbrown, 2 eggs, muffin, sauguage, and OJ. All for about $4.50 here in CA. Damn will that shit fill you up! you guys should tryit... its really damn good


only missing some deep fried oreos, heh?


Posted by embeejay on Dec-19-2004 16:34:

When did the quality of music start being a factor of how popular it is, on what radioshow it is getting most air time (if any), from what record label it comes, who made it, etc.??


Posted by flavdave on Dec-19-2004 16:53:

I don't have a problem with the tracks Markus plays, nor the tracks Armin plays. What I think is a problem is the fact that tracks that get a big response from the listeners are tracks that they will play on the show again and again and again and again. They're sticking with the tried and tested because the people demand it, so it is not completely their fault. But when you figure that both Armin and Markus are huge DJs that get sent a lot of tracks for free every week, you can't help but wonder why they are not playing them instead. I wouldn't even mind hearing them throw in some older tracks if that would mean that they would forego spinning any mix of Jump the Next Train for the 32904832nd week in a row. Armin didn't start hammering tracks week in and week out until about a year ago, so I wonder if something is going on in the background that we don't know about. Or maybe he is just trying to please the fans too much. Both he and Markus are very good DJs who are capable of putting together some nice sets without having to fulfill everyone's requests.


Posted by varun on Dec-19-2004 17:09:

More or less true.
Quality suffers because of quantity.


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