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Posted by eLe_vatE on Dec-21-2004 19:30:

Let's prevent the racism displayed in the Spain v England game....

....by fining the Spanish football association �44,750 (about �64,000)

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Posted by evil_bastard on Dec-21-2004 22:38:

What happened in the Bernabeu was blown out of proportion. I remember loads of Sunderland fans making monkey noises at their own black player a couple of season ago, it never made the press.

However, if this had been England fans making the noise the punishment would have been harsher. UEFA are inconsistent and always have been.


Posted by t�bias on Dec-22-2004 05:07:

Bah, media beat-up to take the focus off another poor England display.


Posted by nettwerk on Dec-22-2004 14:53:

Makes perfect sense to me


Posted by evil_bastard on Dec-22-2004 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
Bah, media beat-up to take the focus off another poor England display.


The England team were heavily criticised for their performance.

But we're always like that in friendlies so noone is surprised anymore. Just look at our friendly record under Eriksson.


Posted by Junior Jack on Dec-23-2004 12:46:

Jester

Spain isn�t racist!!!!
England is a provoker who put to play all the black guys that we could to cause. I Support to Luis Aragon�s in everything. London will not organize the Olympic Games
MADRID 2012


Posted by Simcut on Dec-23-2004 12:56:

Thumbs down

omg, thread invaded by idiots :/ something new there.


Posted by evil_bastard on Dec-23-2004 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Junior Jack
Spain isn�t racist!!!!
England is a provoker who put to play all the black guys that we could to cause.


Are you saying that England played black players to provoke the Spanish?


Posted by SPANIARD on Dec-23-2004 15:25:

Stupid thread, but to anyone who doesn't know what's going on....

Luis Aragones=Not Racist
Ultras Sur= Racist


Posted by Junior Jack on Dec-23-2004 16:06:

I thihk so, but I prefer don�t speak more this, because I�m alerted and I want is speak about trance.
I only say that Luis Aragon�s is not racist and Etoo, Finidi, Lauren etc gives faith of it.
Long life to the Trance music!!


Posted by fastmp3 on Dec-23-2004 18:33:

no hablas ingles ?


Posted by Ste on Dec-23-2004 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by t�bias
Bah, media beat-up to take the focus off another poor England display.


yeh obviously.

let all hail hitler at the next gemrany vs. england game then? thatll take the media gloss off the poor german performence...

idiot.


Posted by Ian on Dec-23-2004 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Junior Jack
Spain isn�t racist!!!!
England is a provoker who put to play all the black guys that we could to cause. I Support to Luis Aragon�s in everything. London will not organize the Olympic Games
MADRID 2012


that is bullshit.

England only played the 'black' players who usually play, and have to take unneccesary racist abuse all over eastern europe, and now spain. It was a disgrace, but the greek ref reported hearing nothign so fifa were powerless so they say to do a stiffer punishment.

I love Spanish football & Spain but that behaviour was unacceptable. Think of all the gifted black players who've helped spanish teams, from Roberto Carlos to Ronaldo to Ronaldinho to Etoo and so on. The punishment was barely that at all.


Posted by Simcut on Dec-23-2004 23:28:

very well said Ian^, doesnt spanish football just OWN the big one? I love watching Sky Sports coverage of it.

btw, who's the bird in your avatar, looks like Amanda Holden a bit.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-24-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Junior Jack
Spain isn�t racist!!!!
England is a provoker who put to play all the black guys that we could to cause. I Support to Luis Aragon�s in everything. London will not organize the Olympic Games
MADRID 2012


Oh shut up Spaniard. My cousin is half Spanish and just got back from Spain after a year of teaching English to children. He says Spaniards are some of the worst racists he has ever seen and personally heard the people he was WORKING with call the black England players "******s" and "monkies". It didn't seem to him that they felt sorry at all for the abuse.

And then Aragones has the balls to question ENgland's colonial past? excuse me? And Spain didn't have one? For fuck's sake...Spaniards caused the outright extinction of the indigenous peoples of Central and South America through war, slaughter and disease. What an idiot.


Posted by SPANIARD on Dec-25-2004 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Oh shut up Spaniard. My cousin is half Spanish and just got back from Spain after a year of teaching English to children. He says Spaniards are some of the worst racists he has ever seen and personally heard the people he was WORKING with call the black England players "******s" and "monkies". It didn't seem to him that they felt sorry at all for the abuse.

And then Aragones has the balls to question ENgland's colonial past? excuse me? And Spain didn't have one? For fuck's sake...Spaniards caused the outright extinction of the indigenous peoples of Central and South America through war, slaughter and disease. What an idiot.


I think you need to calm down.


Posted by fastmp3 on Dec-25-2004 16:45:

it's stupid to say all spanish people are racist !

but i must admit that those who are racists , well they really are assholes


Posted by razmataz on Dec-26-2004 14:01:

If you think Spanish people are racist, wait till you meet some Orthodox Greeks. Made a bunch of Greek friends last year. Were basically good hearted people but some of their offhand racist comments were really a shock.

It's almost as if it is accepted in South European society to mock other races. The thing that is lost upon a lot people is that they are not specifically racist against blacks but just about any race that is not European- Arabs, Indian, Chinese etc.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Dec-26-2004 21:47:

I think it's quite ignorant to think that racist sentiment will be quelled any time soon. But it seems to be really prevalent in Europe, especially among Spaniards, Portuguese, Greeks, etc. I know quite a few people from those backgrounds who think nothing of it to single someone out because of their race. A lot of it has to do with the historical rivalries embedded in European culture and rampant nationalism. Greeks are the best...Italians are the best, blah blah blah blah blah.


Posted by Junior Jack on Dec-27-2004 09:34:

The jugadita has badly left you to discredit Madrid, but you have not obtained it



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