Invasion of Iraq Purly for Their Oil?

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Posted by Petrogad on Dec-23-2004 14:34:

Invasion of Iraq Purly for Their Oil?

what do you guys think about our invasion of iraq, other then our "claim" they had nuclear weaposn but do you think there was anything to do with their oil fields and further by setting up some form of governemnt which we could puppet and profit from their oil?

cheers
-petro

Posted by BadBadNeil on Dec-23-2004 14:45:

first two oil contracts in iraq went to other countries than the US.

Posted by zig on Dec-23-2004 14:57:

eehhh..next question

Posted by Subey on Dec-23-2004 15:47:

Re: Invasion of Iraq Purly for Their Oil?

quote:
Originally posted by Petrogad
what do you guys think about our invasion of iraq, other then our "claim" they had nuclear weaposn but do you think there was anything to do with their oil fields and further by setting up some form of governemnt which we could puppet and profit from their oil?

cheers
-petro

Petro.. it that short for Petrol or Petrograd ?

Answer this question...
1) What single nation benefits the most from the invasion of IRAQ?

The answer is Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's entire economic existence is built on the price of OIL. If the price of OIL goes up, then Saudi Arabia benefits more than any other nation on the planet.

So Ossama Bin Laden (a Saudi national), and a group of hijackers (mostly Saudi nationals) do something on 9/11 ( I can't remember what), and as a direct result of that IRAQ is invaded by america... and OIL prices double.

Saudi Arabia pumps 11 million barrels a day.. at +$25 over the pre 9/11 price, that's $275 million dollars a day free for Saudi Arabia... every day.

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Who's the boss? Osama living in his cave? or Bush?

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Put it this way.. if Bush was really such a bad guy, and the whole invasion was a big scam then why not plant WMDs in IRAQ? If I was in his war room I would have operation "BLACK WMD" that would go something like this "Okay have a black ops team plant WMDs in a bunker if we dont' find any real ones after 90 days of the invasion so that we are justified regardless... cause if we dont' find any we are going to look like idiots"

Posted by Dunya on Dec-23-2004 17:56:

The invasion was for the oil and of course because they couldn't stand the leader saddam and the ppl who were very anti zionist.
The main concern of the USa is that Iraq would attack Israel.
So they used lies to begin 'Operation Iraqie freedom'. You must have a mental disability to believe this.(americanes)lol

Posted by Goashem on Dec-23-2004 18:05:

Posted by occrider on Dec-23-2004 18:31:

/Sorry had to get that off my chest. Please continue.

Posted by zig on Dec-23-2004 20:48:

Yep definatly looking forward to some good rants in this thread..i thought e was just something u did in a club..thanks occ

Posted by Krypton on Dec-23-2004 21:08:

if it was for oil, why havnt our prices gone down

Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Dec-23-2004 21:12:

Posted by jonSun on Dec-23-2004 21:16:

I thought it was for the liberation of the Iraqi people.?

Posted by Michael19 on Dec-23-2004 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^
Do you really believe everything in this world evolves around Jews/Israel/Zionism?

Fool.

so you belive the war was just too give Iraqi people "freedom"?

get real man.

Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Dec-23-2004 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
so you belive the war was just too give Iraqi people "freedom"?

get real man.

That�s not what I said�

Posted by Michael19 on Dec-23-2004 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^
That�s not what I said�

well then, What do you think the reasons are?

Posted by Yoepus on Dec-23-2004 22:09:

Yesterday I watched the Manchurian Candidate. Which, sort of like Wag the Dog, is the hollywood movie for presidential conspiracies.

Now for anyone who hasn't seen the movie and actually wants to (I don't highly recommend it, but it does pass the time) ---SPOILER ALERT---:

The basic plot of the movie is that a corporation (called Manchurian, i.e. think Halliburton) goes to create lengths through a host of BS scenarios just to have the possibility of a candidate that will hold the office of president. Now I always take the wrong message out of the movie, instead of beleiving that corporations are indeed very capable of influencing and controling government, as I feel the directors/writers wanted you to feel coming out of the movie, I got the other feeling.

With in the plot of the movie, so many 'little' things could have gone differently, not to mention how many people had to be invovled, and how complicated a feat (even with super-human technology) it is to actually pull such a grand conspiracy like that.

Anyway, the point is conspiracies are simply too damn hard to pull off in real life. They never go the way you want, ever (go try and conspiracy to achieve a certain specific goal yourself, and you'll see how by the end it morphs or achieves a different goal).

Was Oil important in this war? Sure was.
Was it the strategic goal of the war? Nope. US enough secure sources of oil.

Had Iraq had no oil it would never have become a threat. Iraq without oil, would have made for an easier invasion, alla Afghanistan.

Posted by Krypton on Dec-23-2004 22:25:

bush's personal agenda is the reason for the war.

Posted by Massive84 on Dec-23-2004 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
I thought it was for the liberation of the Iraqi people.?

Ahaha? They are so liberated now

Sorry but i prefer the Saddam era over this crap from your nation.

Posted by Sevas Stra on Dec-24-2004 01:48:

The war in no way could be for OIL because first you have to understand why the OIL prices have gone up and no it's not because of Iraq or Osama, buddy. Second of all, the Iraqis got their freedom except certain fundamantalists still trying to rebel from the "Western Rule" so we should've let Sadam stay there and kill his own sand nigg&rs and sit back and enjoy the show with Sarin and other gasses like he did the Kurds.

Posted by ogvh5150 on Dec-24-2004 02:18:

No need to try to fit in with the name calling.

If you need to prove a point use the eloquence of your vocabulary. Words hurt. Use them wisely.

Posted by Sevas Stra on Dec-24-2004 02:19:

lame

Posted by Reverend_Trance on Dec-24-2004 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Dunya
The invasion was for the oil and of course because they couldn't stand the leader saddam and the ppl who were very anti zionist.
The main concern of the USa is that Iraq would attack Israel.
So they used lies to begin 'Operation Iraqie freedom'. You must have a mental disability to believe this.(americanes)lol

Yep, it is Zionism.

Even though he killed his own people (Kurds, Marsh Beduoins, etc.
Even though he kicked out weapons inspectors.
Even though he violated the First Iraqi War Treaty.
Even though UN Resolution 1441 supported this, not just the USA
Even though over 100,000 dead have been found
Even though he bribed many European officals in the Oil For Food Program

He was just a misunderstood nice guy.

Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-24-2004 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Even though he killed his own people (Kurds, Marsh Beduoins, etc.

Done with full US supprt.

Posted by ogvh5150 on Dec-24-2004 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Yep, it is Zionism.

Even though he killed his own people (Kurds, Marsh Beduoins, etc.
Even though he kicked out weapons inspectors.
Even though he violated the First Iraqi War Treaty.
Even though UN Resolution 1441 supported this, not just the USA
Even though over 100,000 dead have been found
Even though he bribed many European officals in the Oil For Food Program

He was just a misunderstood nice guy.

Archived: Oil from Iraq: An Israeli pipedream?
How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq
Israeli Intel given to US:

quote:
In fact, according to Brom, these sources were utterly compromised by Israeli intelligence, which made the case for starting the war and kept it going as long as necessary. The retired general described Israel as a �full partner� in U.S. and British intelligence failures that exaggerated Iraqi President Saddam Hussain�s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs in the lead up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot
The Devil in the Details: The CIA and Saddam Hussein
How the CIA put the Baath in power
CIA report finds no Zarqawi-Saddam link
(1998) Officials: Iran Messages About Anti-Saddam Plot Led to FBI Probe of CIA

Get a large cup of the good stuff and read all of those articles.

Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-24-2004 03:54:

here are some more intresting articles about Sadaam/Iraq and the US

http://www.democracynow.org/article...03/09/29/155243
http://www.globalpolicy.org/securit...usseinindex.htm

Posted by Subey on Dec-24-2004 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sevas Stra
The war in no way could be for OIL because first you have to understand why the OIL prices have gone up and no it's not because of Iraq or Osama, buddy. Second of all, the Iraqis got their freedom except certain fundamantalists still trying to rebel from the "Western Rule" so we should've let Sadam stay there and kill his own sand nigg&rs and sit back and enjoy the show with Sarin and other gasses like he did the Kurds.

What do you gain by adopting the troll archetype?

If you respond in the troll archetype I will put you on ignore

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