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Posted by djallure on Dec-23-2004 20:31:

Electronic music losing credibility?

Does anyone think that with more and more DJ's switching over to computers; that our music and the art of DJ'ing will lose what little creedence it currently possesses in the music culture, as more mainstream people come to think of elctronic music as simply an "artificial" and "computer" form of music instead of one created and played from the heart? It's as if a solid medium, such as vinyl, ground the music. What do you think?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-23-2004 20:38:

I disagree. More and more artists are incorporating real instruments into their productions, and electronic music is crossing over with other genres more and more, so most genres these days employ electronic instruments and techniques. And, as artists like The Future Sound of London have shown, synthesisers can sound more earthy and organic than live instruments.


Posted by djallure on Dec-23-2004 20:50:

I'm simply stating a point some people make. I'm not saying I agree with it. On your thought however, though electronic music is my passion, it should, for good or bad, never be compared to music played with "actual" a.k.a. "traditional" instruments as they are completly different.


Posted by Ste on Dec-23-2004 21:03:

who gives a fuck, as long as we enjoy it what matters what a bunch of mainstream idiots think?


Posted by noikeee on Dec-23-2004 22:31:

i think the dj's are losing, and the producers are winning


Posted by rooibos on Dec-23-2004 22:42:

You can compare EDM to hiphop, even though hiphop is EDM. Back in the early 90's hiphop was mostly underground. Then suddenly, like taking sterioids, it boomed and became more commercial then Nike. The sound changed into this repetative bullshit garbage about money and cars. The big EDM genres are doing the same. It's about money and how many tunes one can put out and how much airtime each one gets. There will always be underground stuff though, for example, ambient. Theres mainstream ambient like Brian Eno, and underground stuff like smRt_5. Both completly different in there own ways, but similar in others.

All music will get commercial eventually, as more people like it, more will buy into it, and in turn, people will want to make profit on it. Hell, next month Sony Music USA could pick up Endre or MK-S fora million bucks each, and they'll turn out to be money hungry pricks. Chances are, that wont happen. But tahts how the music industry works. A genre starts small, IND labels release it. Big labels notice how popular it's getting, sign artists, sign contracts, and the money rolls in.

There will always be artists true to the music, and others who do it for the money.

Theres nobody loosing. It's not becoming less creditable. It's just changing. Everything progresses, it's just how the artists steer the sound and direction it goes, being good or bad.


Posted by tribu on Dec-24-2004 00:23:

Djs who spin solely off of computers awill always be a bit dodgy, in my book.

Nothing wrong with incorporating one into your equipment though...

quote:
Originally posted by rooibos

All music will get commercial eventually, as more people like it, more will buy into it, and in turn, people will want to make profit on it. Hell, next month Sony Music USA could pick up Endre or MK-S fora million bucks each, and they'll turn out to be money hungry pricks. Chances are, that wont happen. But tahts how the music industry works. A genre starts small, IND labels release it. Big labels notice how popular it's getting, sign artists, sign contracts, and the money rolls in.

There will always be artists true to the music, and others who do it for the money.

Theres nobody loosing. It's not becoming less creditable. It's just changing. Everything progresses, it's just how the artists steer the sound and direction it goes, being good or bad.


Quality summarization of the music industry there..


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 00:24:

edm is dead get over it


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-24-2004 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
edm is dead get over it

Yeah, it dies once a week.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, it dies once a week.


yea mostly on thursday


Posted by DannyO on Dec-24-2004 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, it dies once a week.



quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
yea mostly on thursday


....its funny cos its true.


Posted by memusa on Dec-24-2004 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
i think the dj's are losing, and the producers are winning


Fair assesement but not complete. I believe producing and djing will eventually merge. Look at what Sasha's doing now with Ableton...live DJing, I think, will eventually HAVE to incorporate some kind of live remixing in every set. Sets will be more fresh sounding than ever before and every DJ will trully have its own unique style.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Dec-24-2004 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
yea mostly on thursday


i'm assuming ur referring to a specific radio show.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 07:09:

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
i'm assuming ur referring to a specific radio show.



nooooooooooooooooooo


Posted by mndeg on Dec-25-2004 00:27:

i love asot


Posted by Geoff on Dec-25-2004 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by rooibos
Theres nobody loosing.


haha ok sorry just reminded me of swamper's thread


anyways, infusion owns


Posted by rooibos on Dec-25-2004 00:58:

Cyzum owns even more. Bad ass psychedelic producer.


Posted by djallure on Dec-25-2004 07:41:

Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm kinda new to the forum and it's great to talk to people who love the music!


Posted by djallure on Dec-25-2004 08:28:

Hey... I came across this article on Home of Music. Relates to the future of DJing. http://www.homeofchat.com/vB/showthread.php?t=34394

Now that I've seen your opinions, I will tell you mine. I think that with DJs using more computers, it will alienate them just enough from the listeners to allow for producers to perhaps step out into the light a little more. Thats my opinion, no gloom and doom, just a little shift in the way the music is viewed, like knowing the director of a movie as well as the actors. I think it will be positive for the creative aspect of the music... it will also, I think, allow DJs to further develop their own style as they will be able to essentially remix live. And in the future when vinyl is spun, it will be a novelty and thus more special. So I think it works for everybody. I'll never forget vinyl though, I'll be spinnin it when I'm 90. lol


Posted by stevebutabi on Dec-25-2004 23:31:

Re: Electronic music losing credibility?

quote:
Originally posted by djallure
Does anyone think that with more and more DJ's switching over to computers; that our music and the art of DJ'ing will lose what little creedence it currently possesses in the music culture, as more mainstream people come to think of elctronic music as simply an "artificial" and "computer" form of music instead of one created and played from the heart? It's as if a solid medium, such as vinyl, ground the music. What do you think?



the mainstream doesn't know anything about edm to begin with... all they know is it's called 'techno' and most of them don't like it... and that's the way i like it.


Posted by digitalbreach on Dec-26-2004 00:39:

Re: Electronic music losing credibility?

quote:
Originally posted by djallure
Does anyone think that with more and more DJ's switching over to computers; that our music and the art of DJ'ing will lose what little creedence it currently possesses in the music culture, as more mainstream people come to think of elctronic music as simply an "artificial" and "computer" form of music instead of one created and played from the heart?


First I don't care what mainstream people think of EDM. I prefer it and that's the bottom line.
Here in Texas mainstream is hip-hop and pop music. I could care less what those folks think of EDM...what do they know.

As stated in a previous thread over Sasha giving up on vinyl. This trend appears to be the way in which a lot of people are moving to and there's no stopping it. Of course some will rise and take stands but it seems to inevitable. I personally prefer someone djing live on vinyl. I would probably be hesistant before seeing someone spinning on a computer, but nevertheless we can't be close minded.


Posted by Radagast on Dec-26-2004 00:43:

You do know that both pop and hip hop are EDM...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-26-2004 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
You do know that both pop and hip hop are EDM...


no they arn't you kidder.

thats actually a good point. There really isn't even a label to what "we" listen to anyway. Because a good amount of stuff isnt even danceable/made for clubs... EM i guess


Posted by dj_lane on Dec-26-2004 00:51:

i agree, the computer movement sucks ass, but cdjs are okay, but i still love the vinyl feel


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-26-2004 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_lane
i agree, the computer movement sucks ass, but cdjs are okay, but i still love the vinyl feel


final scratch?


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