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Posted by smokeape on Dec-25-2004 02:05:

Christmas - Truce

I wish that Christmas could be a day of truce. If not Christmas, then any other given day where waring factions and nations would call a cease fire for 24 fucking hours, univerally understood. They could have at it again at a minute afterwards. That would be asking too much though, I reckon.

[[[smoke]]]

Posted by Tranceporter99 on Dec-25-2004 03:17:

this happend in WWI, the germans and british came out of there trenches, buried the dead in no mans land, and traded the christmas rations and presents they got from there respective countries. I believe the British got pipe weed and the Germans got cigarettes and they both got choclates, pretty cool. Apparently Hitler wrote a letter to someone saying how disgusting it was that his country men were betraying there father land by having a truce with the British.

Posted by tathi on Dec-25-2004 09:45:

that was in 1915 (i think) and for Christmas the following year the Britton and German soldiers were told by their commanders that consorting with the enemy in any way shape or form would be construed as treason and severely punished. Nothing can be more demoralising to an army's moral than finding out that their enemies are not entirely dissimilar to themselves and are actually humans

Posted by Tranceporter99 on Dec-25-2004 13:23:

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Originally posted by tathi
that was in 1915 (i think) and for Christmas the following year the Britton and German soldiers were told by their commanders that consorting with the enemy in any way shape or form would be construed as treason and severely punished. Nothing can be more demoralising to an army's moral than finding out that their enemies are not entirely dissimilar to themselves and are actually humans

yeah my grandfather said the same thing, he said that he had a much easier time doing his job as a soldier as a fighter pilot in WWII than as an infantrymen.

Posted by Krypton on Dec-25-2004 23:29:

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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
this happend in WWI, the germans and british came out of there trenches, buried the dead in no mans land, and traded the christmas rations and presents they got from there respective countries. I believe the British got pipe weed and the Germans got cigarettes and they both got choclates, pretty cool. Apparently Hitler wrote a letter to someone saying how disgusting it was that his country men were betraying there father land by having a truce with the British.

that happened only one year, 1914, the high commands of both sides saw this as a failure of discipline,and so it didnt happen again for the rest of the war. i saw the documentary on the history channel. can u believe they actually had a football match in the middle of no-mans land?!
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At Christmas, 1914, there occurred several informal truces at various points along the trench-lines of Northern France and Belgium. It may well be that there were other places where truces took place, but our precise knowledge of events is limited by the amount of direct, eyewitness testimony which has so far been discovered. Nevertheless, there are enough trustworthy reports (and even a few photographs) to convince us that something extraordinary happened that first Christmas of the war, and that it was not entirely an isolated happening......(CLICK SOURCE TO READ THE ENTIRE STORE, VERY INTERESTING)

Posted by stren on Dec-27-2004 11:23:

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Originally posted by smokeape
I wish that Christmas could be a day of truce. If not Christmas, then any other given day where waring factions and nations would call a cease fire for 24 fucking hours, univerally understood. They could have at it again at a minute afterwards. That would be asking too much though, I reckon.

[[[smoke]]]

never gonna happen; you won't see fundamentalist muslims stop blowing things up just cause its a christian holiday

Posted by MisterOpus1 on Dec-27-2004 14:48:

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
that happened only one year, 1914, the high commands of both sides saw this as a failure of discipline,and so it didnt happen again for the rest of the war. i saw the documentary on the history channel. can u believe they actually had a football match in the middle of no-mans land?!
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At Christmas, 1914, there occurred several informal truces at various points along the trench-lines of Northern France and Belgium. It may well be that there were other places where truces took place, but our precise knowledge of events is limited by the amount of direct, eyewitness testimony which has so far been discovered. Nevertheless, there are enough trustworthy reports (and even a few photographs) to convince us that something extraordinary happened that first Christmas of the war, and that it was not entirely an isolated happening......(CLICK SOURCE TO READ THE ENTIRE STORE, VERY INTERESTING)

Very interesting stuff, and nice link too. Thanks. I've decided to start reading a bit more on WWI lately, since I know pretty much next to nothing about it. This compliments my reading nicely.

Posted by trancaholic on Dec-29-2004 01:37:

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Posted by Krypton on Dec-29-2004 01:44:

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Originally posted by trancaholic
Why? Postponing suffering?

w3rd

Posted by Petrogad on Dec-29-2004 01:52:

Re: Christmas - Truce

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Originally posted by smokeape
I wish that Christmas could be a day of truce. If not Christmas, then any other given day where waring factions and nations would call a cease fire for 24 fucking hours, univerally understood. They could have at it again at a minute afterwards. That would be asking too much though, I reckon.

[[[smoke]]]

You and me both but have to realize not everyone celebrates christmas... hence it isnt reconginized as a holiday in many parts of the world... however New Years and Aprial Fools is (along with leep year)

people need to jus chill.