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When do you start beatmatching?

You playing the first record, when do you beatmath your second? Is it halfway through the 1st record, near the end, begining. I've been trying to beatmatch at the very start of record 1. This is because it gives me alot of time, incase i get things wrong etc..Then all you have to do near the end of the record is ust cue the record up and play.

Btw, i can't beatmatch properly, i can just about do it, but there still are the 2 beats really close together...

Cheers

keep at it. eventually it will click, and things will get much easier from there...

and now to beatmatching...
you can do it whenever you please. soon you'll be able to with greatest of ease. you can beatmatch with a fox, you can beatmatch in a box, you can beatmatch here or there, you can beatmatch anywhere...

ok... sorry. im running on no sleep, leave me alone...

if your new at it, take as much time as you need. and it doesnt matter where you mix in either. once you have beatmatching down, you can mix in literally anywhere you want, and still can make it sound good.... except you'll usually want to mix in at the start of a new phrase, cuz that will normally sound best.

yea, mixing the intro of the incoming track over the outro of the live track works just fine.

as for when to mix, where to mix, and all that jazz, i could go into that, but why say somethin when someone else has already said it better... so just go to www.recess.co.uk if u havent already. it'll teach you a lot when your just starting out.

enjoy

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Originally posted by Acid John if your new at it, take as much time as you need. and it doesnt matter where you mix in either. once you have beatmatching down, you can mix in literally anywhere you want, and still can make it sound good....

Woooooaaaah Nelly!!!!

Not sure I'm in 100% agreement. There is a time and a place to mix and understanding this is probably the second level of DJing. Even as a harmonic mixer you still have to be careful so that you don't make a mix sound too 'busy' or it can leave the incoming track feeling very flat once you have finish the transition... Just my opinion. Hope I didn't misunderstand

Radders
As for when you start it all depends on how quick you are and your level of experience.
I can beat match as I actually perform the mix but I have been doing this for about 19 years now. (Time flies when you are having fun).

The best advice is to take the time it takes to get it right and build your confidence. Nothing wrong with mixing outro/intro to get the idea and to create some nice sounding mixes.

When it comes to dealing with the competition however you will find that you need to do more. Just mixing isn't enough these days but trust me, it will come naturally as you progress.

Cheers
Nem

well heres how I learned.. And i'm still young in dj years so it may be easier to understand, because I know what your going through. Now I dont know all the terminology so If i'm off I apologize.

few things:
1. Count your beats... always
2. Know your records
3. Know your records

First figure out if the record is 8, 16, or 32 counts of 4. This will help in deciding when to add the new one.

Most I think will be 8 or 16? but I could be wrong.
You'll know if it goes through the whole build-up breakdown of the song.

Now for counting, I think its proper to count to 4, but I lost track once I get to 8 or nine times which time i'm at. So its easier for me to count to 8 four times instead of 4 eight times. (ie. 12345678,22345678,32345678,42345678, repeat)

the way i first did a successful match and transition was of course to cue the incoming record after the last 8, in time with the 1 of the next phase.

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As for the actual matching of the beats (as in tempo/speed), keep practicing. You'll get it eventually(I did :P).

I hope that helped somewhat and wasn't comlete gibberish. if it is tell me and i'll delete it so as not to make myself further look a fool.

ah... sorry for the really general statement....

what im sayin is that you can mix in anywhere, but certainly not that you should.

theres always room for experimentation, and as long as your on phrase, you could mix in mid phrase if it works.

a good DJ can mix in anywhere and still make it sound good. a great DJ knows exactly when in the live track to mix in, and what part of the cued track to start on....

This is my little thing i do. Might sound wierd but it works.

1. Take your mixer listen to the second table that your going to mix into.
2. Start the vinyl find the first bass hit.
3. Beat match it untill its perfect.
4. Restart the song and play it till you hear the first bass hit again.
5. Stop the second table
6. When the first table is almost finshed of play, take the second start it up holding the vinyl at the first bass hit on the second table. (The table should still be spinning, if not lift the vinyl up just a tad, and the table will spin.)
7. Then when you hear the bass on the other song, start to play the second, and it should be beatmatched.
8. Take your mixer and mix into the first song, then mix out to the second song.

Thats my little way of doing it. You guys might think its retarded, but hell it works!

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Originally posted by Acid John ah... sorry for the really general statement.... what im sayin is that you can mix in anywhere, but certainly not that you should. theres always room for experimentation, and as long as your on phrase, you could mix in mid phrase if it works. a good DJ can mix in anywhere and still make it sound good. a great DJ knows exactly when in the live track to mix in, and what part of the cued track to start on....

I hear ya.

Cheers
Nem

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