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Nuke Iran and just get it over with?

Lets not kid ourselves after shiite is in control, iraq will be a puppet state of iran so why are we kidding our selves, you think bush will just bomb them once election results are in? or will Iraq go into a civil war, creating another israel / palestine realation....

comments/thoughts?

the best thing to do is to split irak into three states. kurds, sunni, and shi'ites. that'd be the best thing. if we were to nuke iran, the international backlash would be enormous, and other nations would use this as an excuse to use their own nucleur weapons. unless iran were to strike first.

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Originally posted by Petrogad Lets not kid ourselves after shiite is in control, iraq will be a puppet state of iran so why are we kidding our selves, you think bush will just bomb them once election results are in? or will Iraq go into a civil war, creating another israel / palestine realation.... comments/thoughts?

^^Typical American response

Invading Iraq was a mistake to begin with,and everyone knew that if Saddam leaves Iraq would become another Iran,but I guess Bush was too busy with the oil and WMD there and didnt see it coming.

I cant believe in 2004 we are still talking about using nuclear bombs,it is pathatic.You'd think men would learn his mistakes from the history but I guess not.
You wanna Nnke Iran? go ahead but prepare yourself for WW3 while you are at it.

YEAH ALRIGHT! LETZ DU IT!!!

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Originally posted by Petrogad Lets not kid ourselves after shiite is in control, iraq will be a puppet state of iran so why are we kidding our selves, you think bush will just bomb them once election results are in? or will Iraq go into a civil war, creating another israel / palestine realation.... comments/thoughts?

Come on now, Get real.

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Originally posted by Petrogad Lets not kid ourselves after shiite is in control, iraq will be a puppet state of iran so why are we kidding our selves, you think bush will just bomb them once election results are in? or will Iraq go into a civil war, creating another israel / palestine realation.... comments/thoughts?

This is why I say we should have IQ tests before we are allowed to vote...

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Originally posted by George Smiley This is why I say we should have IQ tests before we are allowed to vote...

lol

i will be damned if we go to war with iran. we're going to war again, i know it.

Peterogad just cant make up his mind..one of his recent threads was should we just go PWN north korea

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Originally posted by zig Peterogad just cant make up his mind..one of his recent threads was should we just go PWN north korea

in the world of lego's, micro machines, and transformors, imaginations can run wild

lol, im not saying going to war w/ iraq was a good idea but im saying bush will get thirsty and wanna slay iran if he cant get to pwn north korea, specially if iran takes iraq to be its puppet state profiting off its oil.

and the nuke thing was to get your attention you think i was actually serious lolol its somthing bush would do not me....

Ok...

1) America is never ever gonna use nukes in conflicts like these

2) America does not have enough troops for another conflict (for years)

3) America cannot play the al-Qaida card with Iran

4) One excuse America could use is that it is a known sponsor of terrorism, but as that is mainly Hizballah, then that should be of no concern to America

5) I think (?) there is a moderate reformist movement in the country

6) Another excuse could be the plans for nuclear weapons, but there is already a diplomatic solution ongoing to that problem

7) I know this really doesn't bother Bush et al, but attacking yet another Muslim country would be disasterous for the war on terror

what about if they just supported iraq like iran is supporting the shiites pumping millions into iraq so they can gain leadership, dont you think that the US might indirectly be involved with a civil war in iraq (if the shiite take control), by providing aid + weapons + booze?

We're not nuking Iraq while we occupy the country, nor would we need to nuke them otherwise. We have enough conventional munitions to turn the country into a lunar landscape. The problem we've faced from the onset is how many civilian casualties do we need to inflict as collateral damage before ousting the insurgents.


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Originally posted by smokeape The problem we've faced from the onset is how many civilian casualties do we need to inflict as collateral damage before ousting the insurgents. [[[smoke]]]

Let's get one thing straight. As long as there are American troops OCCUPYING Iraq, there will be "insurgents". People don't like to be occupied. If 100,000 troops came into my country, started dropping bombs everywhere, stole my country's resources, and propped up a puppet regime, I would pick up a gun and start killing soldiers as well!!!

And yes, it is a puppet regime. Regardless of the election results, the new "leader" of Iraq will be chosen by the U.S.

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Originally posted by habsfan Let's get one thing straight. As long as there are American troops OCCUPYING Iraq, there will be "insurgents". People don't like to be occupied. If 100,000 troops came into my country, started dropping bombs everywhere, stole my country's resources, and propped up a puppet regime, I would pick up a gun and start killing soldiers as well!!! And yes, it is a puppet regime. Regardless of the election results, the new "leader" of Iraq will be chosen by the U.S.

So why don't you just tell us exactly what the insurgents want then. First, we pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Next a fantatical religious dictatorship takes hold. Lastly, we're back where we started. You obviously can't see our real purpose there. And most Iraqis don't think in the terms you've outlined. A small minority and certainly not a majority is fighting the US. If it were a majority, then there would be wholsale war on a much grander scale than what it is. What it is is guerilla warfare by a few.


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Originally posted by smokeape So why don't you just tell us exactly what the insurgents want then.

Get the fuck out????

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First, we pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Next a fantatical religious dictatorship takes hold. Lastly, we're back where we started.

It will happen either way,so get use it,so you will go back to where you started.

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You obviously can't see our real purpose there. And most Iraqis don't think in the terms you've outlined. A small minority and certainly not a majority is fighting the US. If it were a majority, then there would be wholsale war on a much grander scale than what it is. What it is is guerilla warfare by a few.

soon it will be majorities,wait till the election,if the US gets involved and dont let the Iraqi people choose what they want you will face the majority.

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Originally posted by smokeape So why don't you just tell us exactly what the insurgents want then.

I thought I made that pretty clear in my post. They want to kill American soldiers that are occupying their country and stealing their oil.

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First, we pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Next a fantatical religious dictatorship takes hold. Lastly, we're back where we started. You obviously can't see our real purpose there.

It's very clear what the US purpose in Iraq is - make money.

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And most Iraqis don't think in the terms you've outlined. A small minority and certainly not a majority is fighting the US. If it were a majority, then there would be wholsale war on a much grander scale than what it is. What it is is guerilla warfare by a few. [[[smoke]]]

The majority of Iraqis believe that the American Occupation is not just. However, not everyone is willing to die for what they believe in. I would say that most of these guerilla's have lost so much from this occupation (friends, family, home, etc.) that they feel they must resort to killing those that brought this grief upon them. You would do the same.

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Originally posted by habsfan I would say that most of these guerilla's have lost so much from this occupation (friends, family, home, etc.) that they feel they must resort to killing those that brought this grief upon them. You would do the same.

...only because I enjoy killing.

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Originally posted by habsfan [....]stole my country's resources, and propped up a puppet regime, I would pick up a gun and start killing soldiers as well!!!

Hasn't the Quebecois been trying to make you believe this type of "theory" for the last 15 years in order for Quebec to seceed from Canada?

I don't disagree with you...it was just funny to read the statement and the "location" of where it came... how odd

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Originally posted by smokeape So why don't you just tell us exactly what the insurgents want then. First, we pull all of our troops out of Iraq. Next a fantatical religious dictatorship takes hold. Lastly, we're back where we started. You obviously can't see our real purpose there. And most Iraqis don't think in the terms you've outlined. A small minority and certainly not a majority is fighting the US. If it were a majority, then there would be wholsale war on a much grander scale than what it is. What it is is guerilla warfare by a few. [[[smoke]]]

...do not start things you cannot finish...

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Originally posted by PhloTron Hasn't the Quebecois been trying to make you believe this type of "theory" for the last 15 years in order for Quebec to seceed from Canada? I don't disagree with you...it was just funny to read the statement and the "location" of where it came... how odd

Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Your statement only strengthens the common belief that Americans don't know shit outside of their own borders

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Originally posted by habsfan Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Your statement only strengthens the common belief that Americans don't know shit outside of their own borders

Yup...just like it tells me that one post by a person is enough for you to judge what I know and don't know...and that the fact you can't take a joke...regardless of if I was trying to be politically correct, accurate or not. But since you take it so seriously and are inept to "laugh"...I'm glad I strengthened your little view about "us".


I spend just as much time north of the border as I do at home. I was also raised in a border town...So, if you wish to actually find out how narrow minded your stereo-typical views are of us south of the border, I'd be happy to show you.....wait, wait...but I'm making this assumption about your views only on one statement you made...yeah I'd be eating my own words above if I actually based my opinion about you and canucks only on one statement...shame on me.

In reality though, I know more about canada than many of us down here....and probably some of the people up there (Granted my view is from a BC/ALTA standpoint and the media outlets on this side are known to have their own twist on what goes on out east/ottawa....and it has now been 6 years since I've been to PQ and the Maratimes...hmm)...but then...I'd hate to burst your bubble on my "ignorance" factor.

Alas...though...touche...since it's the intraweb and my statement can be taken as one fell swoop of my 'opinion'/thoughts on a subject....yes it can make me/us look like what most of the outside world would like to believe. I will give you that. So, have fun running with my statement, because I'd hate to actually think that it's really, to put it simple, having to do with cultural equalities (and differences) and being able to be sovereign under the canadian constitution or be an independent nation...I don't remember all the 'mumbo-jumbo' right now...but 6 years ago...and probably now, the folks out there were very passionate about the reasons and did their best to convey that message to us, without offending someone that might disagree...either way it just sounded better to grab guns and start shooting people....

Thanks for hatin'

I am just thinking what the hell does Iran have to do with anything?

No Iranian has murdered an American.
The U.S. has not come under attack by Iran.
Iran has not even threatened to attack the U.S.
Iran has no ties with Al-Qaeda.
They have agreed to stop their nucleur program. Which, personally, I don't think they should have seeing America's tendency for trigger happy pre-emptive strikes.

Oh wait, we could have said the same about Iraq .

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Originally posted by razmataz I am just thinking what the hell does Iran have to do with anything? No Iranian has murdered an American. The U.S. has not come under attack by Iran. Iran has not even threatened to attack the U.S. Iran has no ties with Al-Qaeda. They have agreed to stop their nucleur program. Which, personally, I don't think they should have seeing America's tendency for trigger happy pre-emptive strikes. Oh wait, we could have said the same about Iraq .

Glad you posed this question...

Right now iran is in the process of spending million's of cash sending an insane amount of people into iraq to try and win the election in january, as stated in a pervous thread (not sure who posted it) they have their own assassination crew setup so that they can insure their potential "president" wins.

If the Shiite win in iraq, iraq will become Iran's puppet state (this is somthing the US dosnt want for we want them to be our puppet state so we get free oil, booze, treasures, ect..) iran will become extremely wealthy, sit back and collect.

If they shiite win, there could also be a potential civil war breakout in iraq which could turn into somthing like the israel / palestine conflict.....

Basically we are back to where we started minus one "huge chemical weapons arsnal" which is still "being located" and down one crazy dictator... but out with the old and in with the new, its only a matter of time til they get a crazy new guy that bush will have to play cowboy to deal with.

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