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Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Vs. M-Audio Delta 44

im planning to get a new PC and since its only for producing i know that soundcard is one of the most important parts there , i was talking to alot of producers latley some of them told me M-Audio is good for ASIO and some of them told me Audigy is good for ASIO anyway im getting freaked out please share your information
im getting crazy here

Well iv told you my story Maor.


For the record on here tho, my story..

I was running the machine with the audigy 2 zs. When i would get halfway through my projects lots of popping occured..and stuttering it was unpleasent and i couldn't work with it as when i rendered or did a mixdown it would come out with all the popping..this was useless..
i tried all the audio modes avaible to me in the audio options...and none of them would fix this problem. Luckly i had a STA Media 7.1 rack lying here, so i swapped them over..now when i used it i was still getting popping but then i went to options and found a mode called ASIO Multimedia, i switched over to this mode and popping is gone and perfomance is absolutely excellent.

I have a Audigy 2 zs platnum pro and it's fine. The only time I get popping is because my processor is to slow. But when I mixdown my mix it doesn't still have the popping in it.

Oh yes the ASIO with the audigy 2 zs is about 50ms it works great for me..

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Originally posted by DJ_Silverstone1 Well iv told you my story Maor. For the record on here tho, my story.. I was running the machine with the audigy 2 zs. When i would get halfway through my projects lots of popping occured..and stuttering it was unpleasent and i couldn't work with it as when i rendered or did a mixdown it would come out with all the popping..this was useless.. i tried all the audio modes avaible to me in the audio options...and none of them would fix this problem. Luckly i had a STA Media 7.1 rack lying here, so i swapped them over..now when i used it i was still getting popping but then i went to options and found a mode called ASIO Multimedia, i switched over to this mode and popping is gone and perfomance is absolutely excellent.

I have the Creative AC97... Pretty shitty card but I also put in the prefences on ASIO Multimedia and every thing works great exept of the delay of a half a second...

I use the Delta 44 and it's alittle perfect.

No problems with it at all.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I use the Delta 44 and it's alittle perfect. No problems with it at all.

+1

^ +2

I got the Delta 44 for christmas after 6 months of wait (I was broke :P )

It works like a friggin' charm! I haven't been producing alot for the past few days (christmas + study, my exams are right after x-mas ), but I can get several instances of Zeta+ going with a lot of polyphony, plus the delay is so small that I can run my guitar into it and use VST effects on it, then route the output back to my amp, and I have less than 2ms delay and no crackle

Anyway, it's a great card, I'm using it alongside my Creative Live 5.1 (with Kx drivers, it's like the poor man's M-Audio card ), and so far I've had no trouble

i dont have a delta 44, i have a delta 1010 but the delta driver set is universal. i must be the only person that has a problem with it. the ASIO drivers crash my PC when CPU load is over 90%, regardless of the buffer size. aside from that they are fine. i can usually work with 1 ms latency up until about 60% CPU load when it needs to go up to alleviate the pops and crackles. aside from that the only major problem i get is a MIDI related one.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/wri...ve=wanderingkid

thats the sound of my virus fucking up pretty bad cuz my 1010 doesnt keep midi clock so good. i dont know why. i contacted m-audio twice about this but they fobbed me off both times.

either way, m-audio's ASIO drivers are far and away better than creative audigys for producing. although i would consider other budget soundcards from say edirol. its at least worth checking into rather than finding yourself running into problems a year down the line when you need it to do something and it fucks up.

Ive had the Audigy ZS Plat Pro for almost a year now and I have it running on 10ms, and its brilliant...even with loads of cpu eating VSTis all playing at once.

The only way your going to get popping sounds is by having the latency too low, or having a PC that is just not up to it.

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Originally posted by CJConstable Ive had the Audigy ZS Plat Pro for almost a year now and I have it running on 10ms, and its brilliant...even with loads of cpu eating VSTis all playing at once. The only way your going to get popping sounds is by having the latency too low, or having a PC that is just not up to it.

ah yes, but there is a difference between the plat pro, and plat zs. personally, i've only used m-audio for soundcards (revolution 7.1, audiophile pci 2496, and delta 10/10) and i've never had problems with any of them. i've looked at the specs of the audigy 2 plat. pro and they seem to be pretty good. i'm actually thinking of picking one up because its an external box, which would be a lot more convenient for me.

hmm Summary:
Platinum Audigy ZS 2 and M-Audio Delta 44 is Equal? i guess

At this price range, have you considered the EMU 1820m? Worth a look!

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I use the Delta 44 and it's alittle perfect.

+1
I have got about 5 years and never had any problem in my setup..
Also very good support of drivers.

m audio

audigy has midi latency problems

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Originally posted by Derivative i dont have a delta 44, i have a delta 1010 but the delta driver set is universal. i must be the only person that has a problem with it. the ASIO drivers crash my PC when CPU load is over 90%, regardless of the buffer size. aside from that they are fine. i can usually work with 1 ms latency up until about 60% CPU load when it needs to go up to alleviate the pops and crackles. aside from that the only major problem i get is a MIDI related one. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/wri...ve=wanderingkid thats the sound of my virus fucking up pretty bad cuz my 1010 doesnt keep midi clock so good. i dont know why. i contacted m-audio twice about this but they fobbed me off both times. either way, m-audio's ASIO drivers are far and away better than creative audigys for producing. although i would consider other budget soundcards from say edirol. its at least worth checking into rather than finding yourself running into problems a year down the line when you need it to do something and it fucks up.

You're not the only one, my 1010 ASIO drivers give me headaches sometimes...but since I don't produce a lot, I haven't had the urge of troubleshooting it.

my vote's for Delta!

Just took a look at the Delta's specs. The break out box is nice, but for the price, it looks like the EMU 0404 would beat it in performance. The SNR on the Delta is 103 while 0404m has an SNR (A-weighted): 111dB.

If you have a MAC, then the Delta's your best choice. Otherwise..
Take a gander...The on-board effects make it an interesting choice. Anyone disagree?

http://www.emu.com/products/product...ry=754&nav=spec

Specifications

General Sample Rates: 44.1, 48, 96, 192kHz from internal crystal or externally supplied clock
Bit Depth: 24 or 16 bits
32-bit DSP with 67-bit accumulator
Hardware-accelerated mixing and effects processing
PCI Bus-Mastering DMA subsystem reduces CPU usage
Zero-latency direct hardware monitoring w/effects
Compatible with ASIO 2.0, WDM, MME, DirectSound�
Size: 156mm L x 107mm H
Weight: .25lb/.10kg (card), .85lb/.40kg (with cables)

Analog Line Inputs Two 1/4" inputs (unbalanced)
Type: DC-coupled, low-noise input stage
Level: -10dBV nominal, 6.4dBV maximum
Frequency Response (20Hz � 20kHz): +0.20/-0.10dB
THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS): -100dB (.001%)
SNR (A-weighted, 22kHz BW): 111dB
Dynamic Range (1kHz, A-wt, 22kHz BW): 111dB
Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS): < -120dB

Analog Line Outputs Two 1/4" outputs (unbalanced)
Type: differential low-pass filter (3-pole)
Level: -10dBV nominal, 6.4dBV maximum
Frequency Response (20Hz � 20kHz): +0.05/-0.10dB
THD+N (1kHz at -1dBFS): -100dB (.001%)
SNR (A-weighted, 22kHz BW): 116dB
Dynamic Range (1kHz, A-wt, 22kHz BW): 116dB
Stereo Crosstalk (1kHz at -1dBFS): < -109dB

Digital I/O S/PDIF:
- 2 in/2 out optical and coaxial
- S/PDIF or AES/EBU format (software switchable)

MIDI:
- 1 in, 1 out


Synchronization Internal crystal sync at 44.1, 48, 96, 192kHz
External sample rate sync to S/PDIF (opt. or coax)

Re: Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Vs. M-Audio Delta 44

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Originally posted by Perry im planning to get a new PC and since its only for producing i know that soundcard is one of the most important parts there , i was talking to alot of producers latley some of them told me M-Audio is good for ASIO and some of them told me Audigy is good for ASIO anyway im getting freaked out please share your information im getting crazy here

get m-audio. i hope asio for creative is not locked to 48 khz like it was on audigy 1, but i am not too sure ..... m-audio has better software and drivers, 44.1, 48 and 96k asio, and better converters. what more reason do you need?

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