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Posted by Phil r on Dec-31-2004 16:30:

does orange juice

BEFORE going out, reduce the 'effect' ?


Posted by Gunyouken on Dec-31-2004 16:36:

The AXE effect???


Posted by Fast Turtle on Dec-31-2004 17:38:

If you're talking about ecstasy, not that much.


Posted by Phil r on Dec-31-2004 17:41:

i know it helps the afters, with the vit. c and everything

cos i really feel like some orange juice right now


Posted by Miss Bliss on Dec-31-2004 18:11:

Thumbs up

5htp

GNC/the vitamin shop etc.


Posted by Lateralus on Dec-31-2004 18:58:

Vitamin C acts as a catalyst. It does the opposite of reduce the effects, who the hell told you it would reduce it?


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-31-2004 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Lephaid
If you're talking about ecstasy, not that much.


why would anyone wanna reduce the effect?


Posted by jonSun on Dec-31-2004 19:37:

When ive done X ive always purposely drank OJ or screwdrivers to purposely make the roll more intense. I noticed a big difference.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-31-2004 19:47:

well my friends I think that you've all been fooled by your minds...

unless I'm mistaken 5-htp (which can be bought at many health stores) taken for a week beforehand is supposed to help before and after you drop. However,

Orange juice does not potentiate E. Grapefruit juice potentiates Opiates though...

Don't listen to the myths!! OJ does little or nothing to increase effects.


if you seriously want to feel the pill more- stick it up your ass. not from personal experience though.


Posted by Phil r on Dec-31-2004 19:50:

gonna get battered tonight.

want to drink some orange juice cos it tastes nice.

orange juice (alledgedly) helps reduce the effects of a comedown when drunk afterwards because of it's vitamin c-ness

wondered if i can drink some now, without it affecting the later

it's ok, i've got some coke instead, and a fillet zinger from KFC yum

my dumbo friends don't give me this sort of advice...they say things like "have another one"


Posted by Phil r on Dec-31-2004 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
if you seriously want to feel the pill more- stick it up your ass.
not from personal experience though.


not to be done if you get the sh*ts afterwards.

saying nothing, just fyi. (i read it somewhere)


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-31-2004 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Phil raa
gonna get battered tonight.

want to drink some orange juice cos it tastes nice.

orange juice (alledgedly) helps reduce the effects of a comedown when drunk afterwards because of it's vitamin c-ness

wondered if i can drink some now, without it affecting the later

it's ok, i've got some coke instead, and a fillet zinger from KFC yum

my dumbo friends don't give me this sort of advice...they say things like "have another one"




mmmm... fillet zinger from kfc....


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-31-2004 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Phil raa
not to be done if you get the sh*ts afterwards.

saying nothing, just fyi. (i read it somewhere)




..... right.... right.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Dec-31-2004 21:11:

Vitamin c = anti-oxidant. Thus it's supposed to reduce the harm caused by MDMA firing out free radicals in the brain.


Posted by Gunyouken on Dec-31-2004 21:16:

Last time I drank OJ when i was pissed was a macdonalds drive thru, We weren't even back in the road and the whole OJ was from my stomach straight on the pavement.


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Jan-01-2005 04:13:

no but it makes your cum taste sweeter... tested and confirmed by my ex


Posted by dj_mdma on Jan-01-2005 13:36:

probably to late for Phil now, but this is what happens with the juices.

Orange Juice i.e Vitamin C is an antioxidant. When you take MDMA, and it gets metabolised in the brain, it produces free radical molecules (google some chemistry) They are highly reactive molecules that will react with anything very quickly. Antioxidants react with these molecules and prevent them from doing harm. Thus, by taking lots of vitamin c, you minimise brain damage. Free radicals are also responsible for aging, which is why some cainers look a lot older than they are...

Grapefruit Juice contains a molecule that acts as a carrier for 5htp. If you want to roll long and hard you should take a few 5htp's with grapefruit juice a few hours before you drop.

The carrier molecule does two things. It bings to 5htp and prevents its first pass metabolism by the liver. So you will have more 5htp floating around inside you. Furthermore, the carrier molecule helps the 5htp get into the brain easier, as through complex biochemistry it sort of changes the conformation of the 5htp so it can cross the blood brain barrier more effectively. Now because you now have more 5htp in your body, and now even more in your brain cos of the grapefruit juice, then seratonin production will be at maximal rate. Do this after you've rolled and you will greatly reduce any sort of comedown too.

(TA's resident Pharmacologist)



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