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Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 06:54:

Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/...tw=wn_tophead_9

I imagine that a lot of you have, at some point, been interested to know exactly how the whole "piracy" thing works. This article is very good in terms of how the author goes about explaining the way it all works.

I'd add more to this... but that would get me in trouble (with more than just TA admins, most likely.) Just enjoy the article, and please don't send me PM's asking if I know how to hook you up with releases or any bullshit like that. (It has happened in the past when I've posted things like this, and it's annoying.)

The next time you're downloading a song from one of your favorite P2P programs, though, remember this link.

EDIT: I'm a bit more reluctant to post this one... because I sort of know Bram and he's in a lot of shit right now, but this is just too good of a read for me to let you guys miss it.

It's about BitTorrent. How it started, how it works, etc.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/...tw=wn_tophead_3

Knowledge is power.


Posted by D-res on Jan-02-2005 07:00:

Thumbs up

nice


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-02-2005 07:03:

cool, but thats not going to stop me........ from uh....telling people don't do it!!!


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 07:13:

The thing I find more interesting than the piracy is that articles such as these are just now being published. I guess the whole issue with the RIAA and MPAA really yanked things out into the open.


Posted by DjSaline on Jan-02-2005 07:46:

wired is one of the best magazines to come out in a long while

I never expected to see BitTorrent anywhere outside the piracy community. It's simple, effective and FAST. however, its popularity is booming ten-fold over the now mellow Napster and may soon become the standard in passing information, if it is able to survive a detached relationship with copied and pirated materials.


Posted by A.J. on Jan-02-2005 07:59:

Thumbs up

Nice article


Posted by Ken_Allen on Jan-02-2005 08:10:

Hmm...websites that use bittorrent illegally I see are now charging to download files which is a good way for them to get the shit knocked out of them


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 08:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ken_Allen
Hmm...websites that use bittorrent illegally I see are now charging to download files which is a good way for them to get the shit knocked out of them


There are also a LOT of semi-private "communities" of torrent traders who are going entirely private. I'm a member of several, and one of the biggest groups I belong to is starting to deny new registrations sometime this week.


Posted by Ken_Allen on Jan-02-2005 09:06:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
There are also a LOT of semi-private "communities" of torrent traders who are going entirely private. I'm a member of several, and one of the biggest groups I belong to is starting to deny new registrations sometime this week.


Wanna be my friend? *cough cough* *wink wink*


Posted by Fresh Prince on Jan-02-2005 09:12:

Well it's pretty much accurate.
What they're (feds) doing now is they made a tv show mocking the sceners, it's called 'the scene', it floats around you could find it, 2 episodes so far, really pathetic and ridiculed effort.
However there'll be more operations they'll pull, there always will be, but as it was last time, this time it'll go on too.


Posted by idoru on Jan-02-2005 09:43:

That article's very accurate. A good read, even though you could learn this all on your own in less than a day. I'm pretty sure we all have access to at least one of those tiers they list, though with TA's policy and stuff... *cough*


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 10:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
my friend used to be pretty big into the scene, he had tons of topsite access, knew dumps all over the place, help distro tons of rap cd's (shit head had like 600,000 mp3's at one point... ).

he got scared tho last year, he literally burnt all his back ups and smashed up some hard drives and shit...

his ISP nearly shut him down a couple of times after going over a terabit in like a month... ups and downs.


Guy could get anything tho... it was insane, you would ask him for anything, movie, app, music, game, he would have in hand the next day.





Usenet is still good for somethings, big shit, if you dont mind paying a bit per month for access to a decent server.


I know a couple of guys who used to run along the same lines. Curries, two of them. It's dangerous shit. You get caught, you fry. I guess that's what they thought was fun about it. Both of them got out sometime right before the RIAA really started cracking down.

I do seed for the torrent communities, but that's not something that can be tracked back to you unless someone REALLY wants to peg you for something. That, and the RIAA/MPAA could give a shit about the things I download/upload. (I'm paranoid, too, so my firewalls are a bit denser than most and I tend to bounce multiple proxies.)

And yeah... Usenet is good for what it provides. I'm just not willing to fork out money for anything. That leaves a paper trail, and paper trails aren't good.


Posted by verminator on Jan-02-2005 11:28:

finally something interesting to read in the COR


Posted by Subey on Jan-02-2005 15:48:

Hey we get street cred in COR for being in the Pirate Scene?

In that case: http://web.textfiles.com/ezines/INQUISITION/inq-02.txt

That's from 95, I wrote the letter to the Editor! back when my nick was Subterfuge instead of Subey, back when I ran T.M.O.D.I. the hottest Pirate BBS ever!


Posted by Buddhistics on Jan-02-2005 18:09:

Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/...tw=wn_tophead_9

I imagine that a lot of you have, at some point, been interested to know exactly how the whole "piracy" thing works. This article is very good in terms of how the author goes about explaining the way it all works.

I'd add more to this... but that would get me in trouble (with more than just TA admins, most likely.) Just enjoy the article, and please don't send me PM's asking if I know how to hook you up with releases or any bullshit like that. (It has happened in the past when I've posted things like this, and it's annoying.)

The next time you're downloading a song from one of your favorite P2P programs, though, remember this link.

EDIT: I'm a bit more reluctant to post this one... because I sort of know Bram and he's in a lot of shit right now, but this is just too good of a read for me to let you guys miss it.

It's about BitTorrent. How it started, how it works, etc.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/...tw=wn_tophead_3

Knowledge is power.



Dude I'm gonna send you like a dozen PM's right NOW !


Ok now I'm going to run before you hack the shit outta me
........nice article tho..


Posted by gd_nimrod on Jan-02-2005 18:29:

Re: Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

Know what i hate?

When noobs ask "ooh when is [insert leet group name] gonna release 'x movie' or rip 'x game'"

They think that release groups sit on a bunch of games and movies and simply wait to release them. They dont know about the actual trouble groups go through to access whatever it is they specialize in.

And sure, articles like this keep bringing the "scene" wide open to noobs to understand how it really works, and thats good and all, but this is open to cock sucking feds as well!

[/rant]


Posted by Cloudburst on Jan-02-2005 18:43:

Interresting to know how it all works. Thanks for the url.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 18:48:

Re: Re: Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

quote:
Originally posted by gd_nimrod
And sure, articles like this keep bringing the "scene" wide open to noobs to understand how it really works, and thats good and all, but this is open to cock sucking feds as well!

[/rant]


The feds have known about topsites and such for years. That's not the problem they're having. The problem is that they can't find the people who are running them. Every time a popular topsite gets shut down, at least two new ones crop up. There's always somebody who wants to make a name for themselves. It works much like a terrorist organization, in fact. There are always "sleeper cells" ready to spring into action at a moment's notice. This is because the "scene" is a strong community. For most of the people involved it's more important to perpetuate the existence of the underground than it is to win races and such.

It's a complex subculture... but a fun one to be a part of so long as you aren't trying to turn a profit or something.


Posted by gd_nimrod on Jan-02-2005 18:51:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
For most of the people involved it's more important to perpetuate the existence of the underground than it is to win races and such.


Yes, but still very much so to win creds and races

quote:
It's a complex subculture... but a fun one to be a part of so long as you aren't trying to turn a profit or something.


Yup, but theres always a few assholes that ruin it...

BTW, about the feds knowing about "that which we should not speak of"....there's always pub-scanning noobs which give more than enough play time for the law to rid themselves of more important matters.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jan-02-2005 18:55:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

quote:
Originally posted by gd_nimrod
Yes, but still very much so to win creds and races



Yup, but theres always a few assholes that ruin it...

BTW, about the feds knowing about "that which we should not speak of"....there's always pub-scanning noobs which give more than enough play time for the law to rid themselves of more important matters.


Unfortunately, this is also true.

There are, of course, people who specialize in teaching newbies and assholes a lesson about network security.


Posted by gd_nimrod on Jan-02-2005 18:57:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wired Magazine - How the whole "piracy" thing works.

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
There are, of course, people who specialize in teaching newbies and assholes a lesson about network security.




Isnt it truly a wonderful world



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