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dam girl...

okay i found out recently this girl [Emily] is 'crazy' over me - altho I shouldn't have known - my mate [Victor] is crap at keeping secrets and she's too shy to say anything or give any hints etc. I think she's nice but don't like her as more than a mate.

She invited a few people round to her house the other day to watch movies etc... there i met one of her mates [Steph] and we really got on well - we playfully flirted all evening (yea it was probably out of order to do it right in front of the girl who really likes me - but I've learnt recently that nice guys finish last!) but I didn't get her number (yeah my fault i know! - she had to leave in a rush )

On the way home Emily texted Victor saying Steph wanted my number - he showed me that text, which he shouldn't have really... so I guess Steph likes me as much as I like her. But the only way I know Steph is through Emily! I asked Emily for Steph's number but she's been avoiding giving it to me for a few days now

Seems to me as though Emily's trying to cling onto something which isn't there between us - so won't let me get with Steph. I know exactly how she feels, about a month ago I got rejected from a girl that I had liked for a while and that really sucked (she still ain't talkin to me - screwed up a decent frienship ) but you just gotta accept that there ain't a mutual feeling.

It's frustrating - should i just come clean and tell Emily that i know she likes me? - that would probably make her lose all trust in Victor and dent their friendship but it'd probably make it easier to get to see Steph... what to do??

fuck steph but be nice to emily.

God its like an episode of jerry sprnger, just ask out the person you see having a productive relationship with, just because one person has feelings for you, dosnt mean you should too. First off you need to have a word with your friend that withholding the info, or things could get ugly.

you dont have to betray victor's trust. it's probably totally obvious that emily likes you. you can tell her you guessed it or avoid the subject.

cant you get this other girl's number some other way?

don't tell her your friend told you stuff...that's not a good idea and i don't think it's going to help you get the girls phone number any easier

Tell her evil twin sister that her own mother is going to double-cross her three days before her birthday.

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God its like an episode of jerry sprnger

makes up for the boring stuff I've had to live through for the past while!

billabong - i really have no feelings for emily other than as mates, so it's not really a question of who i'd rather have a relationship with. yea it's flattering to be told someone feels that way about you but i don't share those feelings

butterfly - to be honest it's not obvious at all, she's really quiet and gives me no hints at all etc - i would not have had a clue about how she felt if my mate didn't tell me. and i only met steph thru emily so at the moment the only way is by talking to emily

floorfiller - i do agree with you that i don't really need to tell emily what my mate told me, but at some point it'll become apparant (btw, signed up on royal vegas poker, put you as the reference, hope it helps you whatever that does!)

question is how can i let this girl know i don't have any feelings from her when supposedly i don't know she likes me... and how can i make her accept that me and her friend have something going on?

This sounds more like a soap opera than a jerry springer.


Oh Emily why do you not give me the number of Steph? said Jack
uncomfortable silence.... (Violins playing)
Jack.... Jack.. I can't
But Emily.
No Jack, this is something... I just have to do.

Victor walks in:
Victor why did you tell Jack... You bastard...
Emily runs out.
Victor, I don't have Stephs number, and why did you hurt Emily by telling me, you Cur.

Jack.. I have something to tell you... I... am... YOUR FATHER.
TUN TUN TAAAAAA
JAck stares at a vague angle into nothingness.

Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of.... Lords and Ladies.

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Originally posted by goonerjack floorfiller - i do agree with you that i don't really need to tell emily what my mate told me, but at some point it'll become apparant (btw, signed up on royal vegas poker, put you as the reference, hope it helps you whatever that does!)

hehehe...yeah i did notice that...quite a few people did hehe. of course i only get more free money if they play cash games bla bla bal...but really i just wanted to point out the site...i think it's a great site. but yeah...thanks heheh

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Originally posted by Gunyouken This sounds more like a soap opera than a jerry springer. Oh Emily why do you not give me the number of Steph? said Jack uncomfortable silence.... (Violins playing) Jack.... Jack.. I can't But Emily. No Jack, this is something... I just have to do. Victor walks in: Victor why did you tell Jack... You bastard... Emily runs out. Victor, I don't have Stephs number, and why did you hurt Emily by telling me, you Cur. Jack.. I have something to tell you... I... am... YOUR FATHER. TUN TUN TAAAAAA JAck stares at a vague angle into nothingness. Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of.... Lords and Ladies.

ahahahahahahhahaahahahhahahahahaha

I find it funny the way you people use the word "MATE" in Europe and stuff

ok on a serious note.....what ever you do dont break this girl(emilys)heart.Some how tell her your feelings arent the same towards hers.

-I hate it when you have feelings for a person but the other person doesnt feel the same

lmao at Gunyouken! it's more interesting than soaps anyway!

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Originally posted by TweeK I find it funny the way you people use the word "MATE" in Europe and stuff ok on a serious note.....what ever you do dont break this girl(emilys)heart.Some how tell her your feelings arent the same towards hers. -I hate it when you have feelings for a person but the other person doesnt feel the same

apparantly i've just found out she couldn't sleep last night and has been on the phone today crying to friends - now that i feel really bad about ... a few weeks ago i got rejected by a girl i'd been after for ages, that really sucked and I know exactly how she feels.

it may have been insensitive of me to flirt with this other girl in emily's house, but i'd grown sick of being the one feeling bad about various things with girls - was just unfortunate that emily was on the receiving end of my new attitude

so at the moment i'm the position where I know that i've broken emily's heart and feel terrible about it, but i shouldn't know this, and if she knows I know then I end up screwing up her friendship with victor. And then there's still the whole thing about how to hook up with steph, but I suppose that'll follow after the rest is sorted - just don't wanna leave it too long

man this is complicated

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Originally posted by goonerjack lmao at Gunyouken! it's more interesting than soaps anyway! apparantly i've just found out she couldn't sleep last night and has been on the phone today crying to friends - now that i feel really bad about ... a few weeks ago i got rejected by a girl i'd been after for ages, that really sucked and I know exactly how she feels. it may have been insensitive of me to flirt with this other girl in emily's house, but i'd grown sick of being the one feeling bad about various things with girls - was just unfortunate that emily was on the receiving end of my new attitude so at the moment i'm the position where I know that i've broken emily's heart and feel terrible about it, but i shouldn't know this, and if she knows I know then I end up screwing up her friendship with victor. And then there's still the whole thing about how to hook up with steph, but I suppose that'll follow after the rest is sorted - just don't wanna leave it too long man this is complicated

you should not feel bad at all. if she really liked you and didnt make a move it is her own fault, regardless of whether you would have reciprocated or not.

i still think there were signs of her liking you though. boys never catch on when girls hint but they do. i bet if you have any girl friends who know her, they would have seen it.

anyway, if i were you, i would ask to stop being told about this stuff. it makes it unecessarily more complicated. if you have things to work out with this girl, it is better if you can work it out directly and through your friends.

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Originally posted by butterfly i still think there were signs of her liking you though. boys never catch on when girls hint but they do. i bet if you have any girl friends who know her, they would have seen it.

That prob is my biggest problem with girls... I never catch the signs. I sometimes will catch a sign.. but I will 9/10 times interpret it wrongly. Girls are so freaken greek. But i love them so.

if you have her address maybe you could write her a letter?

2 things i've learnt....

a) things happen all the time "because" of another middle man - ie you only met person B because you both knew person A

b) it's possible to tell "too much" truth.

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Originally posted by Gunyouken That prob is my biggest problem with girls... I never catch the signs. I sometimes will catch a sign.. but I will 9/10 times interpret it wrongly. Girls are so freaken greek. But i love them so.

we're not that confusing, really. i bet emily likes him cause he has been a nice guy to her and she is probably just too shy or insecure to try and say anything. this is probably a bit biased of an opinion based on my own personal experience but i think the guilt and stuff should be on her. he should not have to feel being an ass just cause he is a nice guy (if my theory is correct). she needs to learn to be assertive and get guys who like her back. dating and finding good guys will never be easy and she may as well learn that now.

pfft, just try and get stephs number some other way, there must be some people you both know. snooze ya lose, this girl shunt be this hung up, send her a copy of 'dry your eyes mate'

I wish girls could just learn that the good guys are the ones that don't know how to intepret the signs, and enlighten them.

"hey Gun did you not see the sign? "
"huh? you talking to me? (Heart pounding) Sign? What sign?"
"NOOOOOOOO silly Let's go back to my place and learn some signs, I'll sign you... you sign cheques... "

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Originally posted by Gunyouken I wish girls could just learn that the good guys are the ones that don't know how to intepret the signs, and enlighten them. "hey Gun did you not see the sign? " "huh? you talking to me? (Heart pounding) Sign? What sign?" "NOOOOOOOO silly Let's go back to my place and learn some signs, I'll sign you... you sign cheques... "

true... but then it just wouldnt be any fun anymore, would it?

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Originally posted by butterfly true... but then it just wouldnt be any fun anymore, would it?

Fun? yah It an absolute blast to not pick up ANY signs... what was I thinking? My love life is so great!!! hehehe

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i still think there were signs of her liking you though. boys never catch on when girls hint but they do. i bet if you have any girl friends who know her, they would have seen it.

you're probably right there - but it is so tough for most men to interpret 'hints'... another girl (the one i asked out & got rejected from) was hanging out with me all the time about a month or so ago, waiting around for me to talk etc and being way more friendly/keen than this Emily girl (my mate says it's just cuz of how nervous she was). Now if i was asked who i thought was the one that fancied me, i would have said that girl - not emily!

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anyway, if i were you, i would ask to stop being told about this stuff. it makes it unecessarily more complicated. if you have things to work out with this girl, it is better if you can work it out directly and through your friends.

I never wanted to know really in the first place but my mate couldn't keep his big mouth shut - he just has to tell people stuff. And now it's too late really for this situation, I know and if I keep pretending that I don't at some stage the shit's gonna hit the fan.

btw i do have her address, and her email addy, but i am not gonna send teh letter! well maybe i would if i can write something good enough to sum up the whole situation...

the thing is i know how hard it is to tell someone that you really like them, but you do have to take the plunge otherwise you'll never know or lose out... just what looks like has happened to emily.

but that doesn't stop me feelin bad for her - in order to protect my mate victor i have to talk normally to emily, so the obvious topic is her good mate steph, which I know must really be killing her

and there's still the problem of how to sort the situation of getting steph's number - it seems to me that because emily doesn't know I know she likes me, she's still hanging to something and perhaps trying to stop me getting with steph. but if i let her know that i do know then my mate is in shit...

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Originally posted by goonerjack you're probably right there - but it is so tough for most men to interpret 'hints'... another girl (the one i asked out & got rejected from) was hanging out with me all the time about a month or so ago, waiting around for me to talk etc and being way more friendly/keen than this Emily girl (my mate says it's just cuz of how nervous she was). Now if i was asked who i thought was the one that fancied me, i would have said that girl - not emily!

she was probably really nervous cause she knew you liked her and was afraid she was going to do something to hurt you without meaning to but didnt want to stop hanging out with you to avoid hurting you cause she liked having you as a friend. if that makes any sense. i've definitely been there before.

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Originally posted by Gunyouken Fun? yah It an absolute blast to not pick up ANY signs... what was I thinking? My love life is so great!!! hehehe

That's why you take the risk. You can't control what other people think and act, but you do direct your own destiny. As such, all that you can do is take the chance, no matter how small it may seem, that someone whom you know you like feels the same way about you. That's how it goes, especially when you're not good at picking up the subtleties of the opposite sex (you're definitely not alone in that).

Listen to me - I could learn a lot from my own post.

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Originally posted by butterfly she was probably really nervous cause she knew you liked her and was afraid she was going to do something to hurt you without meaning to but didnt want to stop hanging out with you to avoid hurting you cause she liked having you as a friend. if that makes any sense. i've definitely been there before.

i think you're kinda mixing up the 2 girls but i get what you're sayin... everything apart from "she was probably really nervous cause" seems as though it fits the girl that I really liked a month ago perfectly... altho I don't think she was ever nervous

the nervous one (emily) was nervous apparantly just cause she liked me so much, and I spose we all get nervous at first around people you have feelings for cuz you don't wanna lose a chance

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