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Yeah. That's right. I saw it go in. I saw the ball go in the goal!
What a load of crap. 
This is disgusting. For years people have said that the likes of Man Utd and Arsenal get the benefit of the doubt from referees but noone can deny that this is just outright cheating. Forget all that "some go for you some go against you, all evens itself up" bollocks. The clubs who get all the big decisions are always quick to come out with that line. How many sides have won a penalty at Old Trafford since the Premiership began? I remember when Newcastle should have had a blatant penalty there last year and someone pointed out that noone had scored one there in 10 years! The only one that had been scored was made to be retaken and was saved.
This goal against Man Utd in the dying seconds was disallowed today as it was judged not to have crossed the line. The game finished 0-0:
This has to be the last straw, surely?
There are some referees simply should not be refereeing. Neale Barry should never be allowed near a Newcastle game because of what he did to Olivier Bernard at Goodison Park two years ago. But he was allowed to officiate us against Everton again this season and he did it to Bernard again. And last night again he was going to send Johnson off for a challenge on Bernard but the West Brom players told him not to so he put his red card away! Afterwards the West Brom players even said that the ref was going to red card him but changed his mind. The guy blatantly has something against us and I was gutted when I found out he was reffing the game, my optimism completely disappeared.
same old united always cheating!
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard How many sides have won a penalty at Old Trafford since the Premiership began? |
It has nothing to do with united cheating, but still how did non of the officials spot that. I mean, it goes like 6ft over the line! These ref's come close to Urs Meier's performance in euro 04!
shocking. Really awful.
Felt the worst of one of these as a bolton fan when in 1997 we had one identical from acorner vs everton, not given, game ended 0-0, we went down to Everton that year on goal diff... awful feeling, believe me
didnt see this game but this is what Im talkin about when I say FIFA needs a replay system.Stuff like this might make FIFA decide quicker,but watch it will probably have to be another error in a more important game for FIFA to approve
It's a shame, and I'll take the proud bashing for this but....
Hardcore fan says it will make the game into the NFL, I say it will kill excuses and Juve's title hopes!!!!!
FORZA INSTANT REPLAY
I would only like to see the instant replay if there were clear guidelines for when it could and couldn't be used. We don't want referees running over to check the replay every 2 minutes because of a tackle, and we don't want players whinging for them to look at the video every 2 minutes. If it was just used for checking whether the ball has crossed the line then it would very rarely be needed and wouldn't present a problem, but anything more than that and I'd be worried that the sport would lose it's free-flowing nature.
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard I would only like to see the instant replay if there were clear guidelines for when it could and couldn't be used. We don't want referees running over to check the replay every 2 minutes because of a tackle, and we don't want players whinging for them to look at the video every 2 minutes. If it was just used for checking whether the ball has crossed the line then it would very rarely be needed and wouldn't present a problem, but anything more than that and I'd be worried that the sport would lose it's free-flowing nature. |
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard I would only like to see the instant replay if there were clear guidelines for when it could and couldn't be used. We don't want referees running over to check the replay every 2 minutes because of a tackle, and we don't want players whinging for them to look at the video every 2 minutes. If it was just used for checking whether the ball has crossed the line then it would very rarely be needed and wouldn't present a problem, but anything more than that and I'd be worried that the sport would lose it's free-flowing nature. |
It's actually comical how far that ball is over the line.
Wtf was the linesman doing and the ref for that matter. Surely they should get the sack after decision making like that.
Video referee...thats the only answer..instant action reply
a linesman at the byline would do fine.
Indeed, Tottenham were clearly robbed. I have never seen a ball so clearly over the line and not given.
I have always been against using technology on the account that it will introduce an American style stop-gapness in the game (the very absence of which attracted me to football in the first place). When and where can the limit be? As soon as it is introduced, managers will demand it at every debatable tackle, penalty appeal, throw in, corner kick etc. So if they can devise a system that gives the ref absolute control about whether to refer to video technology or not than that should be implemented and such that the ref will not have to leave the field but refer to an earpiece or something on that line.
Just to calm any cries of favouritism by the officials, if you watch that goal again the ref is well over 50 yards away and the linesman is rushing back at full speed from 50 yards away as well. From the angle of ball, I am very sure Caroll's body blocked the linesman's view. It's not as if the linesman was level with the goal kick line.
Nevertheless, if I were a Tottenham fan I would be fuming right now (like those commentators 
).
right click save
http://www.chaser2k4.footballclips....rollBlunder.wmv
edit: Just in! This image proves there was no cheating!
The ball was clearly over the time. I remember incidents when we have had the ball cross the line and it had not been given. Just the way things go. Complaining about it wont really do any good, and do you really want the chelsea peons to have their heads inflate anymore?
The way the video ref in rugby works and works quite well imo..basically the video ref is usually sitting in a studio within the grounds or in some cases outside the ground in a broadcast van..he and the match ref both have earpieces..but the video ref never interferes with the match unless asked by the match ref..and usually only for really tight situations where a guy may or may not have crossed the line for a legal try for instance.
Every premier match is televised anyway so the expense involved shouldnt be that much more and im sure the tv companys would only be to happy to talk to the FA about it..if it meant an extra few quid for them..and then the FA just have to set down very strict guidelines for its use and implementation.
but to have crucial decisions being fucked up every season year after year by this or that ref is rediculous.The same thing should thing should apply to international matches as well.
HeHE...like the new photo razmataz
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| Originally posted by razmataz I have always been against using technology on the account that it will introduce an American style stop-gapness in the game (the very absence of which attracted me to football in the first place). When and where can the limit be? As soon as it is introduced, managers will demand it at every debatable tackle, penalty appeal, throw in, corner kick etc. So if they can devise a system that gives the ref absolute control about whether to refer to video technology or not than that should be implemented and such that the ref will not have to leave the field but refer to an earpiece or something on that line. [/img] |
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| Manchester Red Devils PLC Press Conference Latest - CARROLL "WAS PETTING LOVEABLE DOG"  Manchester Red Devils Manager Sir Alex Ferguson tonight quashed speculation that a refereeing decision had been given in United's favour during their 0-0 draw with Tottenham. Speaking in a post match press conference, Ferguson claimed that reports that a late shot by Pedro Mendes had clearly crossed the line were "misjudged" and "gay". "What we clearly have seen tonight is a victory for the forces of evil", the ebullient Scot claimed. "Roy was doing nothing more than comforting a lost and confused animal. If any of you were put in a professional situation as a goalkeeper that demanded expert canine handling, I doubt that you would even be able to stay conscious, let alone act with the bravery and accuracy that Roy summoned. That the referee did not award us a penalty for his actions was astounding". Carroll affirmed his managers words, adding, "I didn't even see a shot. If there was one, it was done in pretty bad taste. That dog could have got hurt." United have long prided themselves on the clubs attitude to the animal kingdom, even awarding a position on the playing staff to champion flat runner Ruud Van Nistelrooy, a member of the equine race. In the end, United will reflect on an evening that, had it not been yet again for the disgraceful bias of Premiership officials against the Manchester Red Devils PLC, fans of the Trafford based franchise would have been rewarded with penalty based goals, fuelling their inexorable rise towards yet another richly deserved Premiership Pennant. |
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard |
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| Old Trafford decision explained An FA spokesman after the game absolved the linesman of any responsibility for the apparently mistaken decision not to award a goal to Spurs after a shot from the halfway line crossed the goal line by at least a metre. "The shot came in from an unusual distance and as such caught the linesman out of position forcing him race back towards the goal as the play developed", explained the spokesman, "As he ran, the United scarf he was wearing under his shirt came loose and fluttered up into his face obscuring his view and preventing him from making the call. It was just one of those things." |
That, strangely, looks a bit alike something that happened almost 3 months ago, on a Benfica - Porto. The supposedly "best keeper of the world", Vitor Baia, dropped a ball, and only took it off here:
Obviously(?) it was not awarded as goal, and we (Benfica) lost the game. So I perfectly understand your pain.
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard |
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| Originally posted by The Darklord That, strangely, looks a bit alike something that happened almost 3 months ago, on a Benfica - Porto. |
Maybe the refs should be locked somewhere else just watching the video from different angles and making the calls from there. The refs' calls would be announced in the speakers. You wouldn't need refs in the field.
Or maybe they should get better refs!
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