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Posted by PVD fanatic on Jan-06-2005 18:25:

Question What exactly is splie cueing ???

What exactly is splie cueing ???

Any info would be appreciated...


Posted by Freak on Jan-06-2005 18:29:

Its simple
normal cue:
you hear the selected cuechannel in stereo in your headphones
Split cue:
You hear the selected cue channel in one ear (normally left) and the main output (ie the one playing) in the other. they are seperated from each other, or 'split' hence the name.

Blend cue is where you hear both the selected cue and the main output in BOTH ears at the same time.


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-06-2005 18:30:

one channel in one headphone cup, another channel in the other headphone cup.

These channels could be (depending on mixer) main, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc


Posted by PVD fanatic on Jan-06-2005 18:30:

so u can hear 2 songs... just not on top of each other, but in the 2 earphones, separately ??? how difficult is it to go from from having them both playing on top of each other, and correcting your beatmatching mistake, to going to split cueing?


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-06-2005 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by PVD fanatic
so u can hear 2 songs... just not on top of each other, but in the 2 earphones, separately ???


right

quote:
how difficult is it to go from from having them both playing on top of each other, and correcting your beatmatching mistake, to going to split cueing?


huh?


Posted by Freak on Jan-06-2005 18:32:

i personally love split cueing- i find it more comfortable using it- but i know others who dont get on with it. It can take abot of adjusting to.
its also dependant on the mixer. Formula sounds for example- their split cue is shit (dont ask me why, i cant explain it) but cloud mixers have it down to perfection.
All down to how you like it really.
Learn every available method- as odds on you will encounter them all at some point.

Often you will find it splits the meters on the main output too- enabling you match one with the other visually


Posted by Spin Doctor on Jan-06-2005 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PVD fanatic
so u can hear 2 songs... just not on top of each other, but in the 2 earphones, separately ??? how difficult is it to go from from having them both playing on top of each other, and correcting your beatmatching mistake, to going to split cueing?


If you�re used to monitoring with the headphones on both ears, I should say it will take a lot of getting used.


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-06-2005 18:37:

I just stick with my one ear in the headphones on the incoming channel and the other ear listening to the booth monitor outside the heaphones. Pretty flexible technique as it will work with most if not all mixers.


Posted by PVD fanatic on Jan-06-2005 18:40:

i'm used to mixing on the pioneer-djm500, where i can put both songs on and check my beatmatching....

i will be mixing w/ the new rane mp2016a, which has split cue... i've never done this before.. so i'm a little worried how i'll adjust... i am not perfect at the one headphone , other ear listening to the booth monitor, but i am ok at it... its a big gig, and i'm worreid the split cue will be hard for me... i am used to beiong able to check on my beatmatching.


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-06-2005 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by PVD fanatic
i'm used to mixing on the pioneer-djm500, where i can put both songs on and check my beatmatching....

i will be mixing w/ the new rane mp2016a, which has split cue... i've never done this before.. so i'm a little worried how i'll adjust... i am not perfect at the one headphone , other ear listening to the booth monitor, but i am ok at it... its a big gig, and i'm worreid the split cue will be hard for me... i am used to beiong able to check on my beatmatching.


heh, well, i would suggest practicing up. the transition from one technique to the other isn't too hard, but don't go into it without practicing it up first. as much as it sounds like the same thing, it's not. the one cup on, one cup off method takes a little more concentration at making sure things are matched up. once you get it though, you won't look back. i personally hate listening to two tracks in the headphones now.


Posted by PVD fanatic on Jan-06-2005 18:51:

it sucks, cause theres no way for me to practice that ahead of time..


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-06-2005 18:54:

why? you have a djm-500....
just click the incoming channel on in the headphones. keep the right side of the phones off and match the songs


Posted by trance85 on Jan-06-2005 20:27:

hmmmm, my vestax mixer has balance controls for the channel, if I moved one channel all the way to 'L' and the other all the way to 'R'... the 'L' channel would come in through the left cup and the 'R' channel through the right, is that split cueing?


Posted by bass.exe on Jan-07-2005 12:03:

quote:
Originally posted by trance85
hmmmm, my vestax mixer has balance controls for the channel, if I moved one channel all the way to 'L' and the other all the way to 'R'... the 'L' channel would come in through the left cup and the 'R' channel through the right, is that split cueing?


yea except when you mix its gona sound way fucked up to whoever is listening.


Posted by trance85 on Jan-07-2005 23:06:

quote:
yea except when you mix its gona sound way fucked up to whoever is listening.


Yea that seems to be the problem though, 'cause it moves whatever deck I have "live" to only the 'R' or 'L' speaker/monitor. ?


Posted by Tony Morello on Jan-08-2005 01:02:

split cuing can be turned on or off


Posted by Zild on Jan-08-2005 14:28:

I'd say your best bet is to practice with one cup on and one cup off listening to the monitor. Thats the closest you'll get to split cue without having a mixer with the function. I used to mix entirely in the headphones but on the advice of a friend I started mixing with only the cue in the headphones and it didn't take very long to adapt. A day of practice straightened me out.


Posted by Eis on Jan-08-2005 22:13:

I mix only with headphones, but I'm trying to get used to mix with monitors (hopeless so far )


Posted by Alekos on Jan-09-2005 01:24:

It takes time mate, don't give up


Posted by trance85 on Jan-09-2005 02:13:

When I have the crossfader all the way to side 1, so only deck 1 is playing, and I start deck 2, if I put P.F.L. to 'ON' is it the same thing as cueing? I'm told it is, the music from deck 2 only comes up in my headphones, but the music from deck 1 is also in my headphones still, should cueing isolate only one of the channels in your headphones?


Posted by ezbeats on Jan-10-2005 17:13:

i prefer split during begining 10-20 secs of beatmatching, its a bit easier at the start, but i always switch back to stereo to check the exact beatmathing before i begin mixing it in. its easier to distinguish the songs with split i think, but stereo is a bit mroe precise in my book.


Posted by Inertia on Jan-11-2005 08:30:

i don't get it though. i learned to mix on a cheap stanton mixer, one cup on, other off. then i started messing with the PFL/PGM fader, to blend them. made it a bit easier. till one day i feel infront of a DJM600 and said "this has split cue right?", "right."

switched it to split cue, felt even more comfortable. it was just like 1 ear monitoring, just i didn't have to blast the phones so hard and my ears didn't get near as tired.

it's fun when i can get split cue at house parties, that way i normally turn the booth monitors to the crowd, for better sound.



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