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Posted by DRM on Jan-08-2005 13:22:

Dog Running Mike Upton - Skyscape [Prog/Epic Trance]

Ok this is the follow up to the remix i did of lukes Oasis. its kinda in a similar style of Prog speed but with quite epic sounds as i think it works well. This one isnt quite finished so all comments on how to complete or make it better would be greatly appriciated.

Oh and this originally started out as a collab between me and chris shepherd on the melody but it become so far removed from that i think its safe to call it my own now.

Link

hope you all like


Posted by Thunder5 on Jan-08-2005 13:33:

I don't know what to say.

other than that I like it.

hhmm.. seems like the piano is a bit drowned at some points...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-08-2005 13:39:

Hmm, the rhythm is kinda "clunky", the percs don't really flow. Your bass and beat are very weak, I suggest adding a layer of sub-bass and changing the kick to a punchier one.

The piano is great as well as the melody.

Overall it's quite a solid track but needs some FX layers and the earlier mentioned perc and bass reworked.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-08-2005 13:42:

sounds relaly nice and mellow

i really like it.

i would only suggest that the bassline be stronger and you can make it all kick more dramatically



good job cant wait to hear the full


Posted by montana on Jan-08-2005 13:42:

i like it and the piano is nice, that breakbeatish part with the piano sound al azarish, mint, yeah, nothing more to say really

other than you should add more hardstyle elements and a vocal that says "fuck me in my bassdrum"


Posted by Ian on Jan-08-2005 13:43:

melody is very nice, ambience is great, just need to sort the bit into the breakbeat but i've just told you this anyway mate nice stuff


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-08-2005 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
that breakbeatish part with the piano sound al azarish

Is that good or bad?


Posted by montana on Jan-08-2005 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Is that good or bad?


a good thing


Posted by DRM on Jan-08-2005 14:00:

cheers for the feedback guys, im glad the piano has gone down well. i was a bit worried about it!

all the comments made so far i pretty much agree with. There is a lack of fx atm as i havent got round to much of that yet. With the bassline, this is the 4th bassline thats been on this track and i still cant get it right it seems

but on the whole u all seemed to enjoy it so all is good


Posted by INDY on Jan-08-2005 14:06:

nicely done! good job


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-08-2005 15:12:



bass + beat need some serios beefage

the piano doesnt sit too well with the guitar, i dunno whether its the notesm but they sound like they are clashing and fighting for space in the mix rather than harmonising

with them melodeues will be mint when its done tho

i like the breaks


Posted by Jay M on Jan-08-2005 15:50:

Hey hey,

Pretty clear production. I like the percs.
I'm not at all fan of the piano. The melody it plays doesn't really grab me and it's not easy to stick it in my mind. It drowns a bit sometimes.
Now the break is a bit too long, I think there should be happening more.. and there's really too much piano in there
No real climax, maybe you should build up more to the end of the break.
Imo there are too much kicks at the break beat part.

Productionwise it's pretty good to me. Keep up

-Jay


Posted by MK-S on Jan-08-2005 17:06:

Mike, strange one this.

To me it sounds like a superb track, but encased in some kind of 'limiting shell'

Everything seems to be there, it just needs to break through the 'shell' a bit.

It's pleasant, the melodies are great and the ideas are good, but as mentioned, bass and general rhythm could be toned up.

Neverthesless, promising stuff...


Posted by Mycron on Jan-08-2005 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry


bass + beat need some serios beefage

the piano doesnt sit too well with the guitar, i dunno whether its the notesm but they sound like they are clashing and fighting for space in the mix rather than harmonising

with them melodeues will be mint when its done tho

i like the breaks



agreed with luke in this one,

nevertheless, the piano melody is mint

keep it up, Mike!


Posted by DRM on Jan-08-2005 17:37:

thanx guys appriaciative of all the comments so far this is the reason i put it on here in this state and not fully finished, because i knew aslong as people liked the piano then i could be onto a winner and i wanted to get every1's view on it all before doing all the hard work of fx's and such.

the structure is pretty crap and jumpy atm but thats cuz i threw it together. it shall all flow a lot better in the final version and hopefully should be pretty good


Posted by Massive84 on Jan-08-2005 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
cheers for the feedback guys, im glad the piano has gone down well. i was a bit worried about it!

all the comments made so far i pretty much agree with. There is a lack of fx atm as i havent got round to much of that yet. With the bassline, this is the 4th bassline thats been on this track and i still cant get it right it seems

but on the whole u all seemed to enjoy it so all is good


i Can't listen to it right now, because am not at home.

But i know i can tell you that, you can't force a good bassline hehe .


Posted by DRM on Jan-09-2005 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
i Can't listen to it right now, because am not at home.

But i know i can tell you that, you can't force a good bassline hehe .


yeah ur right ive tried to force a bassline on this one but eventually it will come to me and i will know it fits. its just taking long er than normal on this one


Posted by RickyM on Jan-09-2005 16:46:

I like it a lot!

1 criticism - in the break there is too much piano. I like the melody, and I'll go against the tide and say I like the bass and percussion.
Dont like the breakbeat though.


Posted by M-X on Jan-11-2005 18:02:

really like it mate, would love a final once its finished, would definetley play this out.

keep up the good work.


Posted by eulerfx on Jan-11-2005 19:16:

- nice ambience
- pianos sound good in the break at 1:00
- after that is gets a bit boring, things seem to repeat over and over
- add stronger bassline to make it more prog. sounding


Posted by State of Matter on Jan-11-2005 19:23:

Downloaded this a couple days ago, just got around to listening to it:

The melody is really nice and dreamy, and I'm in love with pianos. During the break the piano sounds kind of thin and computery though, so maybe use a different sample, remove a little delay, or beef up the mids a tad with eq.

All of your synths sound really really nice, but try and bring some of them into the foreground more. Everything sounds like its playing behind the piano instead of around it.

I agree about the bassline, it's not driving the track at all at the moment. Sometimes simplicity is the answer, I'd say go for a simple but driving bassline instead of a complex one.

Good work, looking forward to the finished piece.


Posted by DRM on Jan-11-2005 19:37:

cheers guys, all comments are taken on board to complete the track and i agree with most of them I will change the bassline, and the structure to make it less repetative hopefully it should all sound better.


Posted by EtherealSL on Jan-12-2005 00:57:

ahhh, i love the breakdown where the plucked starts to filter in, complimenting the piano...


the melody for the piano actually sounded really random to me at first (the structure of it) but once the beat comes back in, it sounds a lot better... i wish you had a huge build up leading into the main section, woudl have built a good amount of anticipation, woulve have sounded fantastic


this song is growing on me, the melody gets better and better the further i go into this song. i think the percussion could be more worked on a little more (separate them) and i would like to hear a stronger pad to fill out the track


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jan-12-2005 01:55:

percs are good, bass is good, but that piano is driving me mad

piano is good, but a bit too much of it, id like to hear a variation of leads and use of other synths

so beef the lead up and thats it really.

though not my style, wont make me move much...im a fan of faster, more energetic trance

good production though, but just not for me


Posted by tylerc on Jan-12-2005 03:05:

i dont wanna go so far as to say theres too much piano in the breakdown, but maybe ease up on the delay, as it really jumbles things when you're playing a lot of notes. the piano melody sounds really cool once the beat comes in. the percussion could definitely use a bit of help, but i like the general chunky sound it has. i don't really like the breaks section. i think the kick is far too active for the mood that you set throughout the rest of the tune. ease up on the kick and do some nice choppy snares which arent so drastic.


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