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Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Jan-09-2005 15:11:

Why a lot of people do not listen to trance anymore

I got this from another website, but it seems to be true....

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Here is why, step by step:

Trance is elusively the easiest to make. So everyone is making it.
You have people who make EuroCheese but call it Trance.

They give bad names to Trance when they are not Trance.

EuroCheese is bubblegum so they enter music charts very easily. They become annoying because they aren't good music and they get too much airplayed.

People who weren't into Trance in the first place grew angry as they get annoyed by EuroCheese. They do not and cannot distinguish between Cheese and Trance. So they swear to hate Trance due to their confusion.

Trance requires people to take time and let go to build the "trancy" feeling. Nowadays, who has time anymore?

Trance and Eurocheese tend to sound alike in the intros. People who do not know Trance never get to learn to distinguish between the two. They never learn how to properly listen to Trance.

As EuroCheese occupies the chart, these people grow even more angry at Trance.

If Trance is dead, the ones to blame are Eurocheese supportors and those who never take time to have time to distinguish between real Trance and EuroCheese.

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http://members.lycos.co.uk/norsez/nomoretrance.php
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Thoughts?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-09-2005 15:18:

People do hate trance because they associate it with the most over-blown, cheesy examples. Some people just hate it for the image of hating it though.


Posted by nwopper on Jan-09-2005 15:19:

For me it's not the cheese. I think I can point out cheese and the non-cheese pretty easily. You know which dj's do play cheese, and who don't, you know which cd's contain the cheese, and which don't. Lately I am turning to other genre's (like prog./melodic house) because of the fact every trancetrack IMO sounds the same, a general sound that you can find in the ASOT-episodes. That well 'Whiteroomish' sound, with floaty female vocals and a melody in where there isn't something uplifting (more grown out of my personal love for an uplifting part in a trancetrack). And for hardtrance (the genre I truly love) this year has been very poor. Many hardtranceproducers and dj's turned towards hardstyle (which I do like, but only for dancing, can't listen to it quite long) or are turning towards cheesy Special D-soundish tracks. I still buy the Trancemaster cd's and the compilations I collect, but I feel that I am getting less interested in trance.....


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-09-2005 16:54:

Some people have their minds brainwashed


Posted by Cloudburst on Jan-09-2005 17:00:

a lot of people are sheep.

it's not like I care what other people think about the music I listen to, or if many people dislike it...


Posted by trewqy on Jan-09-2005 17:05:

I read this through website sometime ago..

Dont agree with all of them though, but he has some valid points.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-09-2005 17:34:

A lot of people don't like trance anymore because it was overrun with grandiloquent chorus melodies. What they liked about trance before has either been removed or made secondary to the new hooks and easily memorable aspects of the genre.


Posted by Subey on Jan-09-2005 17:41:

Music is like a train... it stops off at a different location every year or so and then moves on.

There will always be people who prefered the previous stop (stops) and those who are keen on the next stop. That is the nature of music. That is the nature of preference.


Posted by mto on Jan-09-2005 17:46:

Its not for the cheese, its just that the sound has to evolve. There is nothing more you can do to trance to make it sound fresh. Basic intro, breakdown, first melody, breakdown, main melody, breakdown, outro format is just getting old. Sure you can change up the drum pattern and the synth format.. but the basic structure is just getting boring to the old fans. If you slow down the BPM and put more focus on the bassline and the drums your are able to work out a more innovative way to lace the track. This is the reason why people are getting interested in prog-house, prog-breaks, and etc. Mixing of various styles of electronic music is the best. I think that there are artists who do this.. and they are well worth listening to.


Posted by dj_lane on Jan-09-2005 17:47:

blame prog, its 'more intelligent' according to most


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Jan-09-2005 18:04:

For me the answer is easy, most trance just sounds the same. I shall not go on.


Posted by sbastien4678 on Jan-09-2005 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka
For me the answer is easy, most trance just sounds the same. I shall not go on.


I think it's the main reason.


Posted by Jakhira on Jan-09-2005 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_lane
blame prog, its 'more intelligent' according to most

And they're right


Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 20:19:

This link was posted in another thread.

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=31141

Read it. Now.


Posted by Eis on Jan-09-2005 20:21:

WEll my friend said that "trance destroys your soul", now that's a killer, maybe it's her to blame


Posted by Ory on Jan-09-2005 20:32:

The trance of today is empty. It has no soul.


Posted by Jake Conlon on Jan-09-2005 20:39:

and thats why people still feel the tingle when that killer line or theres a bass harmony, trance isnt empty.


Posted by Massive84 on Jan-09-2005 21:02:

My 2 cents on the dieng issue.

Why does Trance die every week on this board? Basically the answer lies in the people that listen to it, not the ones that make it (aka producers and maybe djs)

You see, people can create but also destroy, now destroying a style that is spread world wide is hard to accomplish, but you can destroy it for your self..right?

I'll take my self for an example.

I thought Trance was getting boring yes, mainly due ASOT ( don't see this as a flame please to the ASOT fans , am trying to explain something) I listend to ASOT each week, and yes same old same old, every week maybe one or tweo new tracks.

Now at this point am destroying the genere i love, you see am closing my self from all other things and won't know what the other side is.

So i suddenly started to listen to other things and djs, Trance, house, prog etc. Each time i heard a set, i thought wow, i feel great.

Now suddenly M.I.K.E spins at Global dj broadcast for 2 hours..and i thought let me tune in for once..after that show, i thought Trance is more allive than ever before..FOR ME..Read those two words carefully..FOR ME!

You see, if you keep doing the same thing over and over and over, you mite loose intrest in it. It gets predictble and something like a routine. I must admit at one point i was like, oo here comes the snareroll...oo the break..oo the climax..It's how you work, you keep doing the same thing over and over.

This means i revived something again. Maybe not for you or your best friend, but for me.

Instead of thinking is trance dieng? just try some other stuff, see for your self how you can make it enjoyble again. if that won't work, then your really not in to trance anymore. But that doesn't means it is dead.


Posted by Arsondude2.0 on Jan-09-2005 21:03:

I was just out last nite listening to an Essential Mix that i forgot i had and at a party i played it. It was Paul Oakenfold in Havana Cuba...and i miss that sound...i think its from 1999. But you know i was not of age to go to things then and i never got the full experience of going and hearing my fave songs in clubs or 'raves'...anyway.

To me trance is just boring...this year was not very innovative. BUt oh well...you can always go and listen to your old faves and remember when trance had 'soul' (as one person put it).


Arsondude


Posted by Stassi on Jan-09-2005 21:06:

this theory can be applied to any genre of music.


Posted by WM2 on Jan-09-2005 21:17:

I listen to a lot of different styles, and I have been for many years now. Trance is not doing as well as it used to, but that's not a bad thing. Every style of music goes through change. Trance was to EDM what Grunge was to the rock scene years ago. Give the guys that really care about it a while longer and I gurantee you'll see something fresh before to long.

In the meantime check out all the great house music going on right now. House was big, and when Trance took the spotlight the house guys went back to the drawing board and look at what's going on now. Let the Trance guys do the same thing and in a year or two Trance will be back and better than ever.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-09-2005 22:45:

Re: Why a lot of people do not listen to trance anymore

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
I got this from another website, but it seems to be true....

**

Here is why, step by step:

Trance is elusively the easiest to make. So everyone is making it.
You have people who make EuroCheese but call it Trance.

They give bad names to Trance when they are not Trance.

EuroCheese is bubblegum so they enter music charts very easily. They become annoying because they aren't good music and they get too much airplayed.

People who weren't into Trance in the first place grew angry as they get annoyed by EuroCheese. They do not and cannot distinguish between Cheese and Trance. So they swear to hate Trance due to their confusion.

Trance requires people to take time and let go to build the "trancy" feeling. Nowadays, who has time anymore?

Trance and Eurocheese tend to sound alike in the intros. People who do not know Trance never get to learn to distinguish between the two. They never learn how to properly listen to Trance.

As EuroCheese occupies the chart, these people grow even more angry at Trance.

If Trance is dead, the ones to blame are Eurocheese supportors and those who never take time to have time to distinguish between real Trance and EuroCheese.

**

http://members.lycos.co.uk/norsez/nomoretrance.php
**

Thoughts?


[didnt read the whole thread but...]

basically you just re-iterated the same thing about 9 times. it IS true to a certain extent, but i reckon 50% of the reason, is the same reaosn why i dont like trance anymore.

i got into trance [as most people on this board know it without getting technical] in 98, and back then most trance tracks were very euphoric very uplifting, where as now a days, everythings waaaaaay too melodic. i dont like any trance anymore, purely cos i think its boring, its not exciting anymore. BUT, to the purists, ppl that liked trance way back then and still do now, its still good as trance IS their music. like techno has its picotto [technos version of armin, pvd, tijs etc] and it has its umek, beyer, liebing etc etc which are technos big guns, and also going deeper than that there are bigger techno producers and DJs that only techno purists appreciate, cos its theyre thing, and theyll follow techno's directions for years to come. but with all genres of music, they will become a fad for so long... then theyre not appreciated as much.. then the people that still listen to this music, are the purists and elitests....

and then on the other hand, is the people that like a genre before it becomes popular, and continue to like it when its popular, then when it all becomes a bit honky-dory, and the good ole bedroom producers come out, its time to find another taste in music and then bash the previous.


Posted by Subtle on Jan-09-2005 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
The trance of today is empty. It has no soul.
word!


Posted by Cobalt on Jan-09-2005 23:06:

Re: Re: Why a lot of people do not listen to trance anymore

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
but with all genres of music, they will become a fad for so long... then theyre not appreciated as much.. then the people that still listen to this music, are the purists and elitests....

Hi there!

I understand what you're saying. Trance is in the can, crap, pants, etc. these days. But I'll be there to the bitter end, because art has a way of renewing itself.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-09-2005 23:16:

I still listen to my trance. I do understand why a lot of people are turning away from the new stuff now though


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