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Posted by Spective on Jan-11-2005 20:14:

Apple Releases New Ipod & "Headless" Mac Mini




Posted by Slylee on Jan-11-2005 20:30:

Love sherry!

mini? how about some mini pics there sherry


Posted by kamil on Jan-11-2005 21:05:

Once again, apple shocks the market with a whopping 12 hours of battery life. My seven year old discman lasts 4 times as long.


Posted by Ben Brown on Jan-11-2005 21:06:

its not like form factor pc's weren't out 3 years ago or anything....


Posted by kamil on Jan-11-2005 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Benjamin B
its not like form factor pc's weren't out 3 years ago or anything....


Apple Cube, anyone? This "thing" will go down in flames.


Posted by simplyatbliss on Jan-11-2005 21:17:

At first, I thought the first one was a vibrator..


Posted by Spacey Orange on Jan-11-2005 21:23:

i'm unimpressed. instead of innovating, apple seems headed toward competing on price, and the downward spiral on prices that that encourages, and hurts all producers.

the cube is just a cpu right? nothing new, but just another option for consumers.

the player without a screen. even the cheap ones have screens. who wants a screenless player? all in all, apple is just dilluting its brand.

quote:

Apple Unveils Mini Mac, IPod Shuffle

1 hour, 41 minutes ago Technology - AP


By MAY WONG, AP Technology Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer Inc. chief executive Steve Jobs (news - web sites) unveiled a very small $499 computer on Tuesday and a flash memory-based music player called the iPod Shuffle.

The new products seek to make inroads against the traditionally more affordable PC market and against lower-cost competitors to Apple's wildly popular iPod.

The Mini Mac computers, smaller than even some standalone external computer drives, go on sale Jan. 22. They lack a monitor, mouse and keyboard. The 40-gigabyte Mini Mac will cost $499, an 80-gigabyte model $599.

"People who are thinking of switching will have no more excuses," Jobs said during a keynote speech at Macworld and Expo. "It's the newest and most affordable Mac ever."

The product for the first time puts Apple in the budget desktop PC arena, which so has been largely confined to personal computers that rely on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system.

Building upon the success in a rapidly growing niche that it already dominates, Apple also is rolling out two lower-priced versions of its iPod music players.

The iPod Shuffle, available immediately, is smaller than most packs of gum, weighing less than an ounce.

Unlike the hard drive-based iPod Mini, it doesn't have a display. There's a scroll wheel for the controls so a user can either play the songs in order or have the device automatically shuffle stored songs in a random order.

Apple is selling two versions of the iPod Shuffle.


The smallest will have 512 megabytes of storage and cost $99. A one-gigabyte version, which holds 240 songs, will sell for $149. The lowest cost iPod is the mini, which costs $249 for four gigabytes � enough to store about 1,000 songs


"We want to bring even more people into the digital revolution," Jobs said.


The iPod has helped infuse new life into Apple. In the past year, the Cupertino-based company's stock has tripled on strong sales of the iPod, which is emerging as one of the 21st century's first cultural icons.


With the Mac Mini, Jobs is setting out to expand Apple's 3 percent share of the U.S. computer market.


Investors appeared unimpressed with Jobs' announcements.


Apple's shares fell $2.71 to $66.25 during Tuesday's trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market.


Posted by jdat on Jan-11-2005 21:24:

people are saying the apple mini is a hoax but with apple sueing thinksecret for posting pics of the item it could very well prove not to be fake after all.


One important detail that was not mentionned is that the apple mini is going to be a true pc killer if it is indeed real as they are going for the 500 $ computer market.

A mac ... 500 bucks that's a first!


Posted by Ondrayce on Jan-11-2005 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
if it is indeed real


http://www.apple.com/macmini/

And unless there are millions of people sitting on their hands waiting for the affordable Mac, I doubt this will make an impact. I am currently a Mac user and I think this was an extremely unimpressive line coming out of Mac World this year.

They really need to bump the Powerbooks to G5.


Posted by fr0st on Jan-11-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
people are saying the apple mini is a hoax but with apple sueing thinksecret for posting pics of the item it could very well prove not to be fake after all.


One important detail that was not mentionned is that the apple mini is going to be a true pc killer if it is indeed real as they are going for the 500 $ computer market.

A mac ... 500 bucks that's a first!


I know a lot of PC musicians who are buying this to test the mac platform......


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-11-2005 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
people are saying the apple mini is a hoax but with apple sueing thinksecret for posting pics of the item it could very well prove not to be fake after all.


One important detail that was not mentionned is that the apple mini is going to be a true pc killer if it is indeed real as they are going for the 500 $ computer market.

A mac ... 500 bucks that's a first!


Yeah... load it up with AOL and there you go - HEADLESS COMPUTER FOR HEADLESS PEOPLE. Look, it already shows that it's aimed at an idiot market - the CDR is upside down... Unless the entire computer is upside down.... They should have "up" and "down" labels on it. =)

Let's not forget lack of warez for Mac platform (and general lack of software titles available for Mac). Otherwise - it's great!

I used to respect Apple for being innovative... Now I realize why I hated apple before and now - it's the way they shove their shit down your throat. You want choice? Screw you - we give you what we feel like . Don't like it? Fck off! Same as it was in the old days. Wanna upgrade? buy parts from Apple. Wanna download tunes from iTunes??? buy iPod...

Bleh... iPod being an icon of the 21st century is an insult to all homosapiens, e.g. - "the thinking men", err... I mean persons.


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-11-2005 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
I know a lot of PC musicians who are buying this to test the mac platform......


There's no way you'd be able to run Logic (effectively) on this thing. Though, it'd be interesting...

I'm sure there's a reason why G5 are selling well in a musician market.


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-12-2005 00:10:

quote:
From apple.com news section:

MACWORLD EXPO, SAN FRANCISCO�January 11, 2005� Apple� today announced it has teamed up with Mercedes-Benz USA, Volvo, Nissan, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari to deliver iPod� integration with their car stereo systems in 2005. The iPod Integration Kit for Mercedes-Benz will debut this April in the US with the newly redesigned 2006 Mercedes-Benz M-Class, and Volvo will offer two iPod connectivity options for their entire 2005 US model line. Nissan, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari will announce details of their iPod integration solutions later this year, allowing customers to enjoy high-quality sound through their car�s stereo system, easily access their entire music library and control their iPod using their car�s standard controls. These companies join BMW and MINI Cooper who began providing integrated iPod solutions in 2004.


Whiff... whiff... what is it that I smell???? Ah, oh yes, a class-action lawsuit in the making. Sheet... if I was an MP3 player manufacturer, I'd be filing my anti-trust lawsuit paperwork just about now, citing "unfair trade practices", "market cornering", etc. Why???

From a consumer standpoint: I don't want to buy a fecking iPod to make it work with my car controls. I want my iRiver to work - unless they provide that option, that leaves me with the only choice - iPod.

From manufacturer standpoint: Why would consumers shopping for mp3 player for their car purchase our product when we cannot be as seamlesly integrated into the car stereo system as iPod?


Apple just painted a huge "bulls eye" marker on their back. And that's why I think the shares are down. Expect lawsuits by Creative, Samsung, iRiver, and others to start pouring in.

again, apple blows.


Posted by biznology on Jan-12-2005 00:20:

pandering sucks...Apple must be getting desperate.

whoring out OSX in a tin can computer without the power or accesories to back up the brandname is bad business. Mac works due to the multimedia power...making a shit version of an Apple just to sell it at 5 bens is stupid. does NOT encompass why you might need a Mac.


ipods are slowly making me sick. style selling manufacturing defects. ive yet to meet anyone that has had an ipod for more than a year without problems. oh wait, every Mac has serious issues which cannot be fixed by the user, thats why they invariably dont get business|


Posted by capricorn15 on Jan-12-2005 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
Yeah... load it up with AOL and there you go - HEADLESS COMPUTER FOR HEADLESS PEOPLE. Look, it already shows that it's aimed at an idiot market - the CDR is upside down... Unless the entire computer is upside down.... They should have "up" and "down" labels on it. =)


i used to sell make computers, and most of the customers are stupid. not to make fun of them or anything, but they really dont know anything about computers what so ever.


Posted by ricky on Jan-12-2005 00:53:

down with apple


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by djdust
down with apple


that may just be the dumbest reply in this topic.


Posted by getfoul on Jan-12-2005 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
pandering sucks...Apple must be getting desperate.

whoring out OSX in a tin can computer without the power or accesories to back up the brandname is bad business. Mac works due to the multimedia power...making a shit version of an Apple just to sell it at 5 bens is stupid. does NOT encompass why you might need a Mac.


ipods are slowly making me sick. style selling manufacturing defects. ive yet to meet anyone that has had an ipod for more than a year without problems. oh wait, every Mac has serious issues which cannot be fixed by the user, thats why they invariably dont get business|
point me to i river users who have never had any problems at all in a year and i will let your arguement stand. I only had 1 problem with my iPod in the 2 years i had it. I've had my 60 gig for 3 months now with zero issues. it's working flawlessly and 15 hours+ of battery life. My powerbook's hard drive went out after a year and a half but that was nothing apple related as any hard drive can have problems at any given point in time. The only things that have cause some issue in my computer has always been some defect in the 3rd party software or hardware. I Love my powerbook and would not have any other laptop over it. I will be upgrading to the G5 powerbook when it comes out. Our families G4 cube is running very strong with no issues in the 4+ years we have had that too.


Apple is not being as innovative as it used to be and is now catering to the lower level purchasers. I would rather Apple cost what it used to be and keep the quality up there as opposed to sacraficing quality for cost.


Posted by jpisani on Jan-12-2005 04:08:



source: http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 04:21:

ROOOOOOOOOOFL!!!!!!!


Posted by Siang on Jan-12-2005 04:36:

Hey why dont we all just jump on the Apple-hating bandwagon, I mean we are all just a bunch of brainless, witless retards right?

The mini-mac is a great idea. Its a very cheap entry level mac that you can introduce people to OSX on. It could also easily be used for a media PC. Use your TV as the monitor, FTP files to it via the ethernet, and it beats the shit out of and dvd player/home media center out there. The only thing better than it at this point for versitility(not including sleek sexyness of the minimac) is an xbox modded and using XBMC. Im actually thinking of getting one for this express purpose.

This is coming from someone who doesnt like Macs at all. Oh and the mp3 player thing looks fucking retarded.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-12-2005 04:51:


Man even one of those tiny things has a screen. Why would they make it without a screen? I mean come on keep it simplistic, but not stupid.

I used to have one of those things btw...it sucked because mine was a 64mb...I think they go up to 256 though. But the thing about it was its design, and the way it funtiond was so sweet, despite the fact that it seems like a girlish mp3 player.

I now have a 20gig fourth generation ipod...and its kind of blah. Im sure glad I won it, because if I had payed 500 bucks (thats about what they go for canadian) for one, I would be furious. It certainly isnt worth that kind of money.


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Siang
The mini-mac is a great idea.


No its not, dont you remember the G4 cube? This is basically the same shit.


Posted by Siang on Jan-12-2005 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
To bad OSX is by far the shittiest OS I have ever used.

Its not effcient at all, and everything is hidden away in some obscure little menu...

Its cool that they have a unix type system under it, but how many of their customers are gunna use that besides the 1% that even know what unix is.

Also... one button on a mouse... wtf is that.


Its not a bad OS at all, very very efficient. Its not as user-friendly as windows, but then again it doesnt apply to the same audience as windows. Its not for the average user, its for people who want to use a computer for editing, be it video/photo/audio whatever. Thats what they are built for, and thats the audience they are aimed for. If you want want an efficient OS, use linux then.

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
No its not, dont you remember the G4 cube? This is basically the same shit.


Glad to see you read the rest of my post. And no I dont remember the G4 cube, forgive me I must have misplaced my mac newsletter.


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
To bad OSX is by far the shittiest OS I have ever used.

Its not effcient at all, and everything is hidden away in some obscure little menu...


Mine runs for ever without needing a restart, there are macs from 2 years ago that havent been turned off. WINDOWS IS INNEFICIENT. Its crappy multi-hardware integration makes it fucken unstable. Theres a reason wht professionals use macs for design, film, music production, etc.

quote:
Its cool that they have a unix type system under it, but how many of their customers are gunna use that besides the 1% that even know what unix is.


Youd be surprised.

quote:
Also... one button on a mouse... wtf is that.


Yah, ill agree here, apple seems to think humans are only born with one finger.


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