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US gives up on WMD search

You stupid American idiots who were for this war becuase of these supposed "WMD" should go suck a dick.

P.S Smokekunt and Tiesto14.. stick it up your ass!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm

Re: US gives up on WMD search

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You stupid American idiots...

You'll have to excuse their ignorant naivety. Some people are just more predisposed to being misled than others. This makes the subversion of our beloved *Constitutional* government by interior forces (can we say Neo-Consevative - aka Straussian/Machiavellian) all the more likely.

Unfortunately, a majority share of those ignorant folk are also registered to vote - as can be seen in the outcome of this past election. This makes an informed citizenry all the more necessary (which also brings us to the topic of the American media and who controls it)

Anyway, with that being said,



Search for Banned Arms In Iraq Ended Last Month

Wed Jan 12, 9:28 AM ET

By Dafna Linzer, Washington Post Staff Writer

The hunt for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in Iraq has come to an end nearly two years after President Bush ordered U.S. troops to disarm Saddam Hussein. The top CIA weapons hunter is home, and analysts are back at Langley.


In interviews, officials who served with the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) said the violence in Iraq, coupled with a lack of new information, led them to fold up the effort shortly before Christmas.


Four months after Charles A. Duelfer, who led the weapons hunt in 2004, submitted an interim report to Congress that contradicted nearly every prewar assertion about Iraq made by top Bush administration officials, a senior intelligence official said the findings will stand as the ISG's final conclusions and will be published this spring.


President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top administration officials asserted before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program, had chemical and biological weapons, and maintained links to al Qaeda affiliates to whom it might give such weapons to use against the United States.


Bush has expressed disappointment that no weapons or weapons programs were found, but the White House has been reluctant to call off the hunt, holding out the possibility that weapons were moved out of Iraq before the war or are well hidden somewhere inside the country. But the intelligence official said that possibility is very small.


Duelfer is back in Washington, finishing some addenda to his September report before it is reprinted.


"There's no particular news in them, just some odds and ends," the intelligence official said. The Government Printing Office will publish it in book form, the official said.


The CIA declined to authorize any official involved in the weapons search to speak on the record for this story. The intelligence official offered an authoritative account of the status of the hunt on the condition of anonymity. The agency did confirm that Duelfer is wrapping up his work and will not be replaced in Baghdad.


The ISG, established to search for weapons but now enmeshed in counterinsurgency work, remains under Pentagon command and is being led by Marine Corps Brig. Gen. Joseph McMenamin.


Intelligence officials said there is little left for the ISG to investigate because Duelfer's last report answered as many outstanding questions as possible. The ISG has interviewed every person it could find connected to programs that ended more than 10 years ago, and every suspected site within Iraq has been fully searched, or stripped bare by insurgents and thieves, according to several people involved in the weapons hunt.


Satellite photos show that entire facilities have been dismantled, possibly by scrap dealers who sold off parts and equipment to buyers around the world.


"The September 30 report is really pretty much the picture," the intelligence official said.


"We've talked to so many people that someone would have said something. We received nothing that contradicts the picture we've put forward. It's possible there is a supply someplace, but what is much more likely is that [as time goes by] we will find a greater substantiation of the picture that we've already put forward."


Congress allotted hundreds of millions of dollars for the weapons hunt, and there has been no public accounting of the money. A spokesman for the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency said the entire budget and the expenditures would remain classified.


Several hundred military translators and document experts will continue to sift through millions of pages of documents on paper and computer media sitting in a storeroom on a U.S. military base in Qatar.


But their work is focused on material that could support possible war crimes charges or shed light on the fate of Capt. Michael Scott Speicher, a Navy pilot who was shot down in an F/A-18 fighter over central Iraq on Jan. 17, 1991, the opening night of the Persian Gulf War. Although he was initially reported as killed in action, Speicher's status was changed to missing after evidence emerged that he had ejected alive from his aircraft.


The work on documents is not connected to weapons of mass destruction, officials said, and a small group of Iraqi scientists still in U.S. military custody are not being held in connection with weapons investigations, either.


Three people involved with the ISG said the weapons teams made several pleas to the Pentagon to release the scientists, who have been interviewed extensively. All three officials specifically mentioned Gen. Amir Saadi, who was a liaison between Hussein's government and U.N. inspectors; Rihab Taha, a biologist nicknamed "Dr. Germ" years ago by U.N. inspectors; her husband, Amir Rashid, the former oil minister; and Huda Amash, a biologist whose extensive dealings with U.N. inspectors earned her the nickname "Mrs. Anthrax."

None of the scientists has been involved in weapons programs since the 1991 Gulf War, the ISG determined more than a year ago, and all have cooperated with investigators despite nearly two years of jail time without charges. U.S. officials previously said they were being held because their denials of ongoing weapons programs were presumed to be lies; now, they say the scientists are being held in connection with the possible war crimes trials of Iraqis.

It has been more than a year since any Iraqi scientist was arrested in connection with weapons of mass destruction. Many of those questioned and cleared have since left Iraq, one senior official said, acknowledging for the first time that the "brain drain" that has long been feared "is well underway."

"A lot of it is because of the kidnapping industry" in Iraq, the official said. The State Department has been trying to implement programs designed to keep Iraqi scientists from seeking weapons-related work in neighboring countries, such as Syria and Iran.

Since March 2003, nearly a dozen people working for or with the weapons hunt have lost their lives to the insurgency. The most recent deaths came in November, when Duelfer's convoy was attacked during a routine mission around Baghdad and two of his bodyguards were killed.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...a2129_2005jan11

Post on the Duelfer Report (posted last October)

Dangit! They were just soooo damn close to findin' somethin'!

I'm not much of a bettin' man, but I'll bet my fucking house that conservative mouthpiece, propagandist, rub-shit-in-your-eyes, piss-on-your-head-and-tell-you-it's-raining, repetitive-statements-make-them-more-true, twats like, oh say, Bill Safire, would ever publicly recant their Party-line talking points on this whole WMD affair:

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In return for today's grudging concession of tactical misjudgment, however, I claim this expectation: When and if we discover hidden supplies of germ weapons in Iraq or Syria, and as future confessions reveal the extent of connections between Al Qaeda and Saddam, the legion of war critics will forthrightly admit their certitude was misplaced. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/o...ner=rssuserland

My house ain't big, but it'll put a good amount of money in your pocket if I'm wrong.

Anyone wanna take some bets?

http://costofwar.com/

Best $120+ billion and 1300+ American lives we've ever spent. Let's take a breather for a year and then for shits and giggles go spelunking across the Iranian border.

/cue the "I looked everywhere, but I just couldn't find those WMD under my couch" jokes

http://politicalhumor.about.com/lib...hdumbquotes.htm

Hold on a sec...is this meant to be news?

THEY HAVNT BEEN SEARCHING FOR FUCKING MONTHS.....

anyway thats all i have to contribute..next

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Originally posted by occrider Best $120+ billion and 1300+ American lives we've ever spent. Let's take a breather for a year and then for shits and giggles go spelunking across the Iranian border. /cue the "I looked everywhere, but I just couldn't find those WMD under my couch" jokes

Thanks for the laugh OCC!

And to think that these neo-cons are going to rule America for another 4 years!

I wonder what threats theyll think up next... oh yeah.. you already mentioned it.. WATCH OUT YANKS... THE PERSIANS ARE INVADING!!!!

Buchanan surprisingly made some sense today in an article where he describes how neo-cons are jumping ship:

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Bush is nearing his Tet moment. After the Jan. 30 elections, he will have three options. Persevere in a no-win war with 150,000 U.S. troops bleeding indefinitely until America turns on him, his policy and his party. Send in tens of thousands of fresh U.S. troops to crush the insurgency as we undertake a years-long program of training Iraqis to defend their own democracy. Third, find an honorable exit, and leave Iraq to the Iraqis. The success or failure of the Bush presidency will likely hang on his decision. For which, he can thank the neoconservatives. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42344

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Dangit! They were just soooo damn close to findin' somethin'! I'm not much of a bettin' man, but I'll bet my fucking house that conservative mouthpiece, propagandist, rub-shit-in-your-eyes, piss-on-your-head-and-tell-you-it's-raining, repetitive-statements-make-them-more-true, twats like, oh say, Bill Safire, would ever publicly recant their Party-line talking points on this whole WMD affair:

You! Go back to suckling on Dowd's teat, you!

Re: US gives up on WMD search

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You stupid American idiots who were for this war becuase of these supposed "WMD" should go suck a dick. P.S Smokekunt and Tiesto14.. stick it up your ass!!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm

Hey, genetic-accident-surprisingly-capable-of-typing, first of all you can take your generalizations and shove them up your banged up, "stretched-by-your-head" a-hole. Is your hair just as slick as Che's, from keeping your head in your a$$ all the time?

Keep in mind that probably a half (if not more) Americans do not support this war in the light of what's been transpiring there. I'm one of them. Moreover, many of the people capable of thinking for themselves knew that we had no business in Iraq. However, America needed a visible enemy and Iraq fit the bill. There were just too many tempting reasons to go there and cause hell for Bush Jr., not the least important one - make his daddy proud.

I'm glad you have an opinion, and opinion is just like an a$$h0le - everybody's got one. But if I wanted to hear from an a$$h0le, I'd fart. Now, go back to reading your Marxist propaganda and shut your f-n piehole and quit generalising. Not everyone in this country is as inbred and prejudiced as you are.

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Originally posted by Shakka You! Go back to suckling on Dowd's teat, you!

Blows big rasberry at shakka....NANANANA...

Re: US gives up on WMD search

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You stupid American idiots who were for this war

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Keep in mind that probably a half (if not more) Americans do not support this war

Why don't you read what he said and realize he was talking about the people who supported the war? Too many god damn hot headed flamers on this board

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Thanks for the laugh OCC! And to think that these neo-cons are going to rule America for another 4 years! I wonder what threats theyll think up next... oh yeah.. you already mentioned it.. WATCH OUT YANKS... THE PERSIANS ARE INVADING!!!!

and a good majourity will believe it too even if they don't know where and what persia is/was...

Re: Re: US gives up on WMD search

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Originally posted by Dj Tomer Why don't you read what he said and realize he was talking about the people who supported the war? Too many god damn hot headed flamers on this board

Sometimes its needed...to put people in check...think before you post is the best policy and then you wont be embaressed next day reading through what you posted the previous day...

you mean they didnt find any weponds

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Originally posted by St_Andrew you mean they didnt find any weponds

Definatly didnt find any weponds...but they might be the secret ones that they want to find

Oh but the neo-cons liberated the Iraqi people, so it doesn't matter what they said before because they've found a new excuse. I love Sean Hannity going off on people about mass graves, but it's funny he never mentioned them before he needed a new excuse. After all didn't those occur long before Bush came into office? Bush even said he was against such action when he ran in the 2000 election. Why wasn't he outraged by the mass graves then?...oh yes: September 11th, Sepetember 11th, September 11th, it justifies everything!

Wasn't this announced months ago? Oh, well, doesn't matter, it's nice to be reminded once again of being right.

Hmm, where are all my favorite right wingers on this forum now? Come, come, just give me one little "ok, we were wrong"...pleeeease?? Heh..heh...ha..haha...hahahaahahaaahahahahaahahaha!!!!!

*YAWN*

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r *YAWN*

its a good oppertunity to bitch about the french...

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Originally posted by zig its a good oppertunity to bitch about the french...

That's too easy

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r That's too easy

havnt drunk a bottle of chateau margaux 1995 since....

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Wasn't this announced months ago? Oh, well, doesn't matter, it's nice to be reminded once again of being right. Hmm, where are all my favorite right wingers on this forum now? Come, come, just give me one little "ok, we were wrong"...pleeeease?? Heh..heh...ha..haha...hahahaahahaaahahahahaahahaha!!!!!

Who are you kidding? By nature, those fanatical right-wingers won't admit any wrongdoing. They very rarely accept blame. Instead, they find scapegoat's, patsies, and fall guy's.

They're always RIGHT, even when they're WRONG!

That's much of the problem - they're so polarized that their immovable, old-line discourse excludes much needed alternative viewpoints. They try to run a bureaucracy of the mind as well as of the government, and it scares me.

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