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Posted by josh on Jan-13-2005 03:40:

How do you guys do the Drum Sequence?

As the title mention?

Battery VSTi?

Fruity Loops to sequence ReWire to Cubase like what Alanzo did?

Or any other methods?

Kinda thinking which is the most simple way to do a drum sequencing.

Thanks thanks


Posted by TVG on Jan-13-2005 03:45:

Battery. Reason's a little easier but not worth the extra time. I just make a 1 bar midi section and then copy and paste it.


Posted by Pimp_fu on Jan-13-2005 06:17:

One of the little shortcuts that I use, is to create a normal 4OTF beat in a midi track, then save that midi file. Then, anytime I need it, I just import the midi track, and assign it to an instance of Velocity. I use Velocity because I can layer drum samples internally, assign each drum to a different output channel, have one midi track, and the piano roll will display the name of the drum instead of normal keys. That way I don't have to try to remember which key I mapped each drum to.


Posted by fr0st on Jan-13-2005 06:46:

Hyper edit and battery works for me.... its a lot like a step sequencer though it does require setting up. But once that is done, it is really easy.


Posted by josh on Jan-13-2005 07:23:

Does battery take up alot of CPU usage?

Anyway, do you guy did the full song of drum in midi first or export as wave in 4 beat until the part u wan to make the rolling of drum, then you do the drum rolling in piano roll?


Posted by fr0st on Jan-13-2005 08:11:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Does battery take up alot of CPU usage?

Anyway, do you guy did the full song of drum in midi first or export as wave in 4 beat until the part u wan to make the rolling of drum, then you do the drum rolling in piano roll?



Well battery 2 depends what effects you having going on i think ive seen it max out at 6% on 1 proccessor of my dual 2.5 powermac....


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jan-13-2005 08:52:

i use battery as well... so much easier when it comes to making a breakbeat section w/ battery. what sample packs do you guys like?


Posted by h.vox on Jan-13-2005 11:20:

Re: How do you guys do the Drum Sequence?

quote:
Originally posted by josh
As the title mention?

Battery VSTi?

Fruity Loops to sequence ReWire to Cubase like what Alanzo did?

Or any other methods?

Kinda thinking which is the most simple way to do a drum sequencing.

Thanks thanks


i use battery, but it does not have anything to do with sequencing.
for all my drum sequencing needs i use default key editor in cubase, and it is more than enough for me. sometimes i use drum editor (for detailed velocity edits) but not that much (at least for psy trance, for dum'n'bass i use it a bit more often).


Posted by h.vox on Jan-13-2005 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Does battery take up alot of CPU usage?


it depends on what you use. battery 1 does not use a lot of cpu, but battery 2 might, since it has implemented effects. but, if you use other virtual instruments a lot, you already have enough cpu power that it won't pose a problem.

quote:

Anyway, do you guy did the full song of drum in midi first or export as wave in 4 beat until the part u wan to make the rolling of drum, then you do the drum rolling in piano roll?



midi (in piano roll) all the way.
much better control over single hits and special rolls if a new idea arises.
each of the sounds (kick, snare, opn hat, cls hat, tamb, shaker, crash, snare and drum roll, ethnic percussions etc.) has its own midi track, so arranging the rythm parts is much faster and easier to see.
the way you put this, it may sound like making drum tracks is one of the most complicated things in the universe


Posted by mef on Jan-13-2005 12:39:

I just either use edirol super quartet or random percs samples and sequence them and render them as loops afterwards. Works for me.


Posted by josh on Jan-13-2005 13:42:

way to go, guys! Thanks for the feedback

Hehe


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-13-2005 14:40:

i dont understand! If you have FL Studio, why should u use battery??? Somebody plz explain this to me... I mean you can load all the samples in the sequencer, so whats the difference???


Posted by josh on Jan-13-2005 15:01:

Perhaps they dun like battery? SO they ReWire FL to do Drum sequencing there. TO keep it neat?

Hehe.. One program for one usage. Thats what I can think of


Posted by Timothy on Jan-13-2005 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
i dont understand! If you have FL Studio, why should u use battery??? Somebody plz explain this to me... I mean you can load all the samples in the sequencer, so whats the difference???


There is no difference. I guess they like to waste their money or ...


Posted by luizmenezesjr on Jan-13-2005 17:00:

When I start to sequence on PCs, I've the same problem: HOW CAN I DO DRUMS?

So I start with REDRUM from REASON, and it's very good, works fine, but I like to use CUBASE. So I've to REWIRE it.

The problem with REWIRE is you have to open Reason after opening Cubase, and Reason has more features that I want (and keeping 2 programs opening without need isn't cool).

Then I come to VSTs. The first one was the LM7 Drum Vst included with Cubase.

Steinberg LM7 is nice, but editing patches isn't easy. You have to edit a .txt (you can also use an editor from the Steinberg website) or replace the original samples, but I want a litte more features like play Bass Drum on channel 1, and snares on chan 2 AND load samples from the front panel.

So the LM4-Mark II solves my problem. It has 18 slots so you can layer many samples on one slot, and can control almost everything you want on a drum player. I've created 2 or 3 patches with has all my needed samples,loops and fx.

Reading other posts, I tested the Native Instruments BATTERY 2.0. It has nice layout, easy to use, 72 slots, many many features BUT it takes a LOT OF YOUR PROCESSOR.

But with Battery 1.0 , you have almost the same features, 54 sample slots (with can be layared too) but your processor won't be eaten by one vst.

In fact, you can use ANY sampler to sequence drums (since the sampler can assing on each note an different sound), but you have to balance features that you USE with processor and memory consuming.


Posted by nec on Jan-13-2005 17:20:

When did Battery V2 come out?


Posted by luizmenezesjr on Jan-13-2005 17:30:

I don't know the date, but check:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?battery_us

I think they don't sell the Battery 1 anymore.


Posted by nec on Jan-13-2005 19:01:

V1 was fucked.



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