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Mixing "Andain - Beatiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)

Argh! I can't mix this track with anything!!! Can anybody give me some suggestions of which tracks can I possibly mix with this track?

this track was played at ahead in sheffield on NYE
i sadly cant remember what track was played after it though
sorry

Just find something proggy in the same key. Look through some of the lists in the thread for harmonic mixing.

I know the airwave mix is in D#m (2A) but I think the other mixes go in a different key.

Harmonic mixing will sort out a lot of these issues.

Cheers
Nem

i mixed it out with Roc Project - Never (Tiesto Remix) with some success. wasnt one of my best mixes but it got the job done. didnt need much work with the EQs - mostly the low freq

heard it mix from mojado - naranja (vision mix) that sounded good. Try that

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Just find something proggy in the same key. Look through some of the lists in the thread for harmonic mixing. I know the airwave mix is in D#m (2A) but I think the other mixes go in a different key. Harmonic mixing will sort out a lot of these issues.

what he said. Mix out of it with something in the same key and you should be fine.

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Originally posted by FirstBorn what he said. Mix out of it with something in the same key and you should be fine.

Thanks. Any examples?

from memory i think the g&d remix is an 8A, but i could be wrong. also remember that its a pretty slow tune (well in comparison to what i spin) so you might end up playing it at +6% which will change the key.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN from memory i think the g&d remix is an 8A, but i could be wrong. also remember that its a pretty slow tune (well in comparison to what i spin) so you might end up playing it at +6% which will change the key.

Yup, at +6 it would be a 3A (A#m). Unless ofcourse you use the master pitch on a CD deck.

All of G&Ds stuff is way too slow for me.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Yup, at +6 it would be a 3A (A#m). Unless ofcourse you use the master pitch on a CD deck. All of G&Ds stuff is way too slow for me. Cheers Nem

nem- whats the \"rule\" of key changes. i read in the harmonics database that a key changes at just over 3% or so, but what does it change to? reading your above post its obvious ive been doing it wrong

Re: Mixing "Andain - Beatiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)

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Originally posted by woscar99 Argh! I can't mix this track with anything!!! Can anybody give me some suggestions of which tracks can I possibly mix with this track?

my question is why are you still trying to mix this track? this went on my "hot for a week, now its cheese" shelf over a year ago. i mean ya, some remixes are still ok. photon project mix for example. but the G&D mix needs to be put away.

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Originally posted by Vero my question is why are you still trying to mix this track? this went on my "hot for a week, now its cheese" shelf over a year ago. i mean ya, some remixes are still ok. photon project mix for example. but the G&D mix needs to be put away.

He's mixing it because he likes it. You know, not everyone has your taste in music.

I actually find that that track mixes well with pretty much anything...for a while (yeah, about a year ago) it was one of my "pull it out if nothing else works" tracks. Definitely anything proggy it mixes amazingly out of.


What else do you mix?

I find this track relativley easy to mix after Solar Stone - Speak in Sympathy.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nem- whats the \"rule\" of key changes. i read in the harmonics database that a key changes at just over 3% or so, but what does it change to? reading your above post its obvious ive been doing it wrong

The rule is generally this.
If you have a difference of approx 4.5% you have changed the key of the track by one whole semitone i.e. an Am becomes an A#m.

However the key may still sound bad at a 3% because it's closer to the above key. It's kind of a judgement call but at 4.5% it's definately going to sound rough.
Keep in mind that it's based on the differnece between the two pitch positions and not from the 0% point.

Cheers
Nem

PS
I saw that Johny2003 had the above track down as an Em (9A) in the harmonic mixing thread.

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Originally posted by zoomzoom He's mixing it because he likes it. You know, not everyone has your taste in music.

Very well said, couldn't have said it better myself.

Thanks for your help guys, appreciate it. I'm making a mix for my girlfriend and she really likes this song, so I want to mix it in. But my unability to mix it is getting kind of frustrating! I'll let you know how it all goes out.

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Originally posted by woscar99 Very well said, couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for your help guys, appreciate it. I'm making a mix for my girlfriend and she really likes this song, so I want to mix it in. But my unability to mix it is getting kind of frustrating! I'll let you know how it all goes out.

Try Andain - Summer Calling (Josh Gabriel Mix)

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 The rule is generally this. If you have a difference of approx 4.5% you have changed the key of the track by one whole semitone i.e. an Am becomes an A#m. However the key may still sound bad at a 3% because it's closer to the above key. It's kind of a judgement call but at 4.5% it's definately going to sound rough. Keep in mind that it's based on the differnece between the two pitch positions and not from the 0% point. Cheers Nem PS I saw that Johny2003 had the above track down as an Em (9A) in the harmonic mixing thread.

thanks! so, on the camelot scale does this mean that a semitone change you add 7? ie so an 8A becomes a 3A? and conversely if you slow something down by 4.5% you subtract seven?

yeah, i think i got the 8A for this track from someone else's post. think id better have a look at it myself

"Chable & Bonnici -- Ride" is something I usually like to go to after I play that song. It's a fairly "naked" beat on the intro, so there shouldn't be any large key clash.

this mixes fairly well with most tracks.. ive done it with petter - all together and alot of other prog songs.

razzi.

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Originally posted by woscar99 Thanks. Any examples?

http://jadedbeats.net/DJ%20Jade%20-....07.2004%5D.mp3

around 17mins... mixed with Speak In Sympathy [Deeper Mix]

The track at 0% is in Em, and a really strangely good mix I found out it was Lange's mix of Pulsar's Global Gathering Theme from 2003 (shows long ago that woz eh?) record it wen u mix it and be very suprised, especially wen the guitar and vocals come back in at the end of Beautiful Things.
Happy mixing dude

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thanks! so, on the camelot scale does this mean that a semitone change you add 7? ie so an 8A becomes a 3A? and conversely if you slow something down by 4.5% you subtract seven? yeah, i think i got the 8A for this track from someone else's post. think id better have a look at it myself

In a nut shell yes.

Cheers
Nem

wicked. cheers nem

try mixing this tune with young parisians - u write the rules (solar stone mix) those go so well together!

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