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when to start the track?

i where just wandering, about... when to start ur track u have to mix in, all the livesets u hear, the dj's almost everytime hit perfect... is that just as simple, as knowing ur track enuf? or? u know fx at 1:46 min the track kicks in and when there is 1:50 left of the first track... u start the second one, or how to do it perfectly? i normaly just start it when there is 1:20 left of the track and then beat match it.... but sometimes it really sounds lame.. cause the bass on the second track dont really gets started.. any1 who could help me out herE?



-DJ_KenxX

You get the first beat on the record you are about to bring in. You let it loose when there is a break ( after 16 beats , or when a noise is added) Thats as simple as i can put it. DJ do not use a clock/watch to calculate when to start mixing....uh.

it actually depends on how the track is build, but i'd say start somewhere around 16or32 beats before the track will start to calm down.

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Originally posted by burns DJ do not use a clock/watch to calculate when to start mixing....uh. [/B]

jeje i know im lame, but im using sum lame cd decks... and there is the clock on.... hopefully gettin tt's around x-mas.. and thnx for the advice guy's.. will try it out!


-DJ_KenxX

In all seriousness you can't DJ by a clock/watch as Burns said. You just wouldn't be able to match the phrases up correctly.

You can try releasing the first beat of the new tune at the end of the climax or after the end of the nexp phrase - It all depends on A) The tune your mixing out of and B) The tune your mixing into

Just experiment and have fun

Yes, part of it is knowing the songs.. but with practice and by listening to enough trance, you'll be able to tell by instinct when the track will start to break down. I've been able to teach myself to mix two songs I've never heard before just by using that instinct. Most trance has the same structure for intro's and outro's, and you'll learn how it works in time.. Just keep at it and you'll understand with time.

but then there are some songs that will throw you a curveball, they go 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 for awhile, then sometimes an extra two beats get thrown in there at the end of a breakdown which can make it tough.. I hate songs like that, I hate it even more when they are good ones I want to mix with, and it's hard. you have to drop the incoming song a few beats late to compensate.

it's all about knowing your songs.

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Originally posted by RavingLunatic but then there are some songs that will throw you a curveball, they go 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 for awhile, then sometimes an extra two beats get thrown in there at the end of a breakdown which can make it tough.. I hate songs like that, I hate it even more when they are good ones I want to mix with, and it's hard. you have to drop the incoming song a few beats late to compensate.

Damn i totally agree. Those tracks freak me out....imagine having the crossfader in the middle and hearing both tracks...then one track throws in a 2 beat break and next thing ya know yer mix is 2 beats off so you have to blend over quickly...ruins yer long stretched mix....

One thing you might like to try is to go out and buy 2 copies of the most cheesy and bog standard house or trance tune you can find and have a go at matching the outro of the first copy with the intro of the second copy.

When I was just learning about the basics of beat mixing and phrase mixing this is what I did and found it helped a lot. At first you might find mixing tricky as the exact build up and phrasing is different for each song - however as the guys above have said with time you will get a "feel" or intuition of when to start your mix!

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