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Posted by Zombie14 on Jan-14-2005 00:43:

Headphone Advice

Hey everyone, nowadays im begining to DJ a lot more and my current headphones are the very heavy Sony MDR-V700. Unfortunatly i was injured in a car accident last year and my neck has never been the same so in the last couple of months ive been having neck pains while spinning and the headphones have been on for an extended of period of time.

i'm very well aware that the MDR-V700's are quite heavy, so i was wondering if any of you had any reccomendations for a very light set of quality DJing/Producing headphones that give off a very clear and accurate sound. Nothing crazy like $250+++, but somewhere along the lines of the MDR-V700's like say anywhere from $50-180.

Any help would be greatly apreciated!

-Tyler


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jan-14-2005 01:40:

thats terrible about your neck bro, but without a doubt the best headphones that meet your criteria




1. light-weight ::big check::
2. best sound ::check::
3. value & longevity ::check::

sennheiser HD25


Posted by Zombie14 on Jan-14-2005 02:26:

Would you say that the sound quaity on the Sennheiser HD25 are equally as good as the sony's? And are they very accurate like accurate enough to produce on?


Posted by dj chex on Jan-14-2005 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by TylerM
Would you say that the sound quaity on the Sennheiser HD25 are equally as good as the sony's? And are they very accurate like accurate enough to produce on?



Hahahaa!!!

Sony v700s are among the worst sounding "professional" headphones i've heard, while the hd-25s are the best sounding pro headphones I've ever heard.

Also for a accurate pair that doesn't cost nearly as much check out the sennheiser hd-280pro, sony mdr-7506 or sony mdr-v6 (NOT THE MDR-V600, there different phones and the v600s are horrid)


Posted by Pasta on Jan-14-2005 03:43:

I been looking to get the Pioneer HDJ1000's, but have heard they are fragile a little bit, or that might just be the way some people take care of their things , anyone have any experience with these?



Posted by dj chex on Jan-14-2005 04:47:

my hommie has a pair of the hdj-1000s. THey're allright, but they do break easily. I swear, everytime i use them, i always screw em up. The pleather headband always moves out of place, the crome finish conducts electricity so if you walk on carpet w/ them on you may get static playback in the loudspeakers. (we've tried this w/ a djm-500, Empath, and a pcv-05 all w/ same results) Personally, i wouldn't buy it.

Anyways, if you can find the older technics rp-dj1200 for cheap, that may be a good alternative to the other bass heavy v700 and hdj-1000. I actually have a pair of dj1200s that's around a year old, and to be honest, they're the most durable pair that i've ever owned. They've been crushed by a full crate of vinyl, stepped on, been through a outdoor gig in the woods, drenched w/ my sweat and there still going on strong. The real different thing about these headphones is it's swivel design. Instead of swiveling left and right, the speaker swivels 45' forward and back. And honestly, i've been spoiled by this design and i wish there were more headphones like this. It just makes cueing much easier for me.


Posted by Pasta on Jan-14-2005 06:39:

Re: Headphone Advice

quote:
Originally posted by TylerM
Hey everyone, nowadays im begining to DJ a lot more and my current headphones are the very heavy Sony MDR-V700. Unfortunatly i was injured in a car accident last year and my neck has never been the same so in the last couple of months ive been having neck pains while spinning and the headphones have been on for an extended of period of time.

i'm very well aware that the MDR-V700's are quite heavy, so i was wondering if any of you had any reccomendations for a very light set of quality DJing/Producing headphones that give off a very clear and accurate sound. Nothing crazy like $250+++, but somewhere along the lines of the MDR-V700's like say anywhere from $50-180.

Any help would be greatly apreciated!

-Tyler


Do the Sony's perform well even though they seem to be heavy and hurt your neck?


Posted by tu_face on Jan-14-2005 10:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729





sennheiser HD25


be careful buying these. the ones in the picture are hd25sp's, they are annoying as fuck, look for straight hd25 which look like this:



they cost a bit more but its worth it


Posted by Zombie14 on Jan-14-2005 12:10:

Re: Re: Headphone Advice

quote:
Originally posted by Pasta
Do the Sony's perform well even though they seem to be heavy and hurt your neck?


From what i could tell they were "okay"... After buying them i had expected a better quality sound and a deeper bass, but supposivly tthey were one of the best headphones on the market i thought it was normal...

Ill definetly look into the ones you guys have been showing me though, thanks a lot your help is greatly apreciated!


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-14-2005 12:58:

Slightly off topic but seriously you should get your neck looked at by a physiotherapist as the weight of some headphones should not be causing you discomfort. .

Was it a standard Whiplash or is it a bone based injury?
If it's muscle based you should get some sports massage therapy on your neck as ultrasound isn't that good on areas like the neck.

After that you should also be doing rehabilitation exercises to strengthen it.
Too many people don't do rehab on simple injuries that later become causes of some quite serious conditions.

If it's bone based speak to a Cyropractor and then a sports massage therapist. You need to get that sorted, don't let the pain just go away by itself as you will get it back with interest!!!!

Just incase you are wondering, although I work as a DJ I am actually a fully qualified Sports Therapist and Nutritional adviser by trade. (Have done plenty other things besides but another story).



On the subject of Headphones
I swear by the HD25s (Not SPs) as they are light and have excellent sound. I find the sound just a little but lacking in bass but on the whole they are very good for DJing and their sound isolation is probably about the best I have heard.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by `pr0digy on Jan-14-2005 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Just incase you are wondering, although I work as a DJ I am actually a fully qualified Sports Therapist and Nutritional adviser by trade. (Have done plenty other things besides but another story).


Learn something new every day


Posted by Greedy on Jan-14-2005 20:11:

sorry to hear about ur neck.

I have the pioneers and i will say the Technics RPDJ1000s are the lightest and most comfy.


Posted by Zombie14 on Jan-14-2005 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Slightly off topic but seriously you should get your neck looked at by a physiotherapist as the weight of some headphones should not be causing you discomfort. .

Was it a standard Whiplash or is it a bone based injury?
If it's muscle based you should get some sports massage therapy on your neck as ultrasound isn't that good on areas like the neck.

After that you should also be doing rehabilitation exercises to strengthen it.
Too many people don't do rehab on simple injuries that later become causes of some quite serious conditions.

If it's bone based speak to a Cyropractor and then a sports massage therapist. You need to get that sorted, don't let the pain just go away by itself as you will get it back with interest!!!!

Just incase you are wondering, although I work as a DJ I am actually a fully qualified Sports Therapist and Nutritional adviser by trade. (Have done plenty other things besides but another story).



On the subject of Headphones
I swear by the HD25s (Not SPs) as they are light and have excellent sound. I find the sound just a little but lacking in bass but on the whole they are very good for DJing and their sound isolation is probably about the best I have heard.

Cheers
Nem


Well, believe it or not the neck problem is actually what doctors believe was an ongoing eye problem where my left eye wouldnt move as much as the right so I would normally move my head instead of looking from side to side. Since it was only the left eye and even though both eyes are now fine, I developed very strong neck muscles on the right side of my neck, not visible by the eye, but if you were to press hands on each side of my neck you'd notice an immeadiate difference. Doctors say that even though the eye problem is fixed now the way the problem efected my neck is very bad.

We were at a complete stop when someone slammed into us from behind at what i believe was about 35-45mph... I was in the back seat not wearing a seatbelt and got slammed more or less with whiplash... Both cars were totaled and a kid in the other car had a severely broken nose. Doctors say the whiplash may have further agrivated the injury.

Anyway, i was enrolled into physical therapy for about 3 weeks when i decided that sleeping was more of a priority then getting my neck fixed.... Big mistake, lol.


Posted by Wisnia on Jan-15-2005 04:11:

Ok, my stanton pro 3000 headphones just snapped,
i had them for 3 months and the plastic side just snapped off and the right headphone is held by the wire. I loved the stantons, the sound and everything, but now

Anyhow, the store where i baught them from is nice enough to exchange them for either the same or another brand.

I was thinking of going for the Sony MDR V700DJ.

Should i stick with the stantons? go for the sonys? or go for something else?

Thanks


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-15-2005 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TylerM
Well, believe it or not the neck problem is actually what doctors believe was an ongoing eye problem where my left eye wouldnt move as much as the right so I would normally move my head instead of looking from side to side. Since it was only the left eye and even though both eyes are now fine, I developed very strong neck muscles on the right side of my neck, not visible by the eye, but if you were to press hands on each side of my neck you'd notice an immeadiate difference. Doctors say that even though the eye problem is fixed now the way the problem efected my neck is very bad.

We were at a complete stop when someone slammed into us from behind at what i believe was about 35-45mph... I was in the back seat not wearing a seatbelt and got slammed more or less with whiplash... Both cars were totaled and a kid in the other car had a severely broken nose. Doctors say the whiplash may have further agrivated the injury.

Anyway, i was enrolled into physical therapy for about 3 weeks when i decided that sleeping was more of a priority then getting my neck fixed.... Big mistake, lol.


What you probably have is a build up of scar tissue that is in effect weakening the muscles in the neck.
That fact that you also have an inbalance may also be putting more of a strain on the injured area itself.
Strangely enough the muscle attatchment of the neck muscles is also on the ocipital bone at the back of the skull so it is actually related to sight anyway.
You may also find that you experience headaches as the covering that sits around the muscles also attatches to the fascia around the brain and can give you headaches as it will pull the fascia tighter (Similar to the feel of a migrane).

A trained hand should be able to pick out the areas affected by scar tissue and work them out of there and realign the muscle fibres, that way the only thing you have to focus on is regaining the balance of strength in your neck.

In principle a whiplash injury is exactly the same as any other type of muscle tear, but because it affects the neck and is close to the head people tend to attatch an unusual amount of fear and worry to the injury it self. If you pull a muscle in your leg the mechanical principle is the same but you just have less nerves that are affected by it.

It is still not too late for you to sort your neck injury out and I strongly recomend that you seek the advice of a proffessional in your area as it would be not only a shame but foolish not to get this condition sorted out.

If you get it sorted you will most likely in years to come probably not remember me but if you don't then when the trouble really starts you may remember me as the guy you wish you had listened to.

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Back to headphones:
I also use the Senns HD25 when I'm producing but you have to be careful not to whack too much bass onto your mix as when you put it on a real system you will notice that everything sounds way to bassy.

Cheers and good luck with the neck
Nem


Posted by ShadySlim on Jan-15-2005 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Wisnia
Ok, my stanton pro 3000 headphones just snapped,
i had them for 3 months and the plastic side just snapped off and the right headphone is held by the wire. I loved the stantons, the sound and everything, but now

Anyhow, the store where i baught them from is nice enough to exchange them for either the same or another brand.

I was thinking of going for the Sony MDR V700DJ.

Should i stick with the stantons? go for the sonys? or go for something else?

Thanks

I'd recommend going for something else, in your case. The Sonys are poorly balanced so that one wrong move could make those swivel covers snap. Moreover, the Sonys are no longer made in Japan - they're now made in the Philippines. And those Sonys made in the Philippines generally have screechier, harsher highs than the rolled-off, muddy highs of the Japanese-made V700's.


Posted by Wisnia on Jan-16-2005 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadySlim
I'd recommend going for something else, in your case. The Sonys are poorly balanced so that one wrong move could make those swivel covers snap. Moreover, the Sonys are no longer made in Japan - they're now made in the Philippines. And those Sonys made in the Philippines generally have screechier, harsher highs than the rolled-off, muddy highs of the Japanese-made V700's.


Thanks for the reply, any recommendations?


Posted by on Jan-16-2005 06:09:

I agree with Nem, get your neck checked out.

My recommendation, slightly biassed, is check out the Sony V6 headphones. I love them.. and I think they sound better than the 700's as they are more of a producing/studio headphone.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-16-2005 07:16:

I agree with him ^^ don't let injuries get worse



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