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Posted by 3xx3r7 on Jan-19-2005 02:24:

One of those days....

Have you ever had one of those days, when you can't mix for shit? No matter how hard, pissed and concentrated you get, you still produce crappy mixes that day.


Posted by razzi on Jan-19-2005 02:33:

it happens. just turn off your decks and mixer and chill out for a bit. then go back 30 mintues later and try it again. hopefully it works

razzi.


Posted by Timski on Jan-19-2005 02:41:

Yeah these days happen. I had it the other day goin on.. so just crack the shits turn it all off and go masturbate or play xbox or something and its usually all better...

Then theres the times where it all mixes perfectly and you feel tops... Just think about the good times


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Jan-19-2005 02:44:

Actually, the day before, it was pretty much flawless for me.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-19-2005 02:52:

This happens to me everyday.




just go drink a beer or 3 and relax. If I am really sucking and I really don't want to I just try to pump myself up by listening to some good sets er soemthing....along with drinking



sometimes it works, and when it doens't, just drink a few more beers and you'll be wasted and not care that you suck


Posted by Shudder on Jan-19-2005 02:55:

tracklisting wise yes.... otherwise not really


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Jan-19-2005 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
sometimes it works, and when it doens't, just drink a few more beers and you'll be wasted and not care that you suck


Hehe.


Posted by tubby on Jan-19-2005 03:52:

on new years day i played at a friends party, everything went great, machups, 3 decks, i was in the zone. Back at their place a week later, I couldn't get two tunes in sync. very furstrating, so I just grabbed some beer and let everyone else play.


Posted by bokus on Jan-19-2005 04:13:

I agree with the track wise. Once you learn how to listen to the beats knowing if its too fast or not is common sense. I find Beatmatching to be the easy part. And the EQing, blending at the right time the hardest. 2 beautiful tracks can sound orgasmic put together at the right time or sound medicore if not done with the right eqing. Just my 2 cents.


Posted by Wraith on Jan-19-2005 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by bokus
I agree with the track wise. Once you learn how to listen to the beats knowing if its too fast or not is common sense. I find Beatmatching to be the easy part. And the EQing, blending at the right time the hardest. 2 beautiful tracks can sound orgasmic put together at the right time or sound medicore if not done with the right eqing. Just my 2 cents.


+1 to this. I've just gotten to where I can get my beats spot on pretty much all the time. Now I just have days where the rest of the mixing is all jacked up. When this happens I just walk away and come back when I feel like it. Sometimes in an hour or a day, one time a week.


Posted by Tegu on Jan-19-2005 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by bokus
I agree with the track wise. Once you learn how to listen to the beats knowing if its too fast or not is common sense. I find Beatmatching to be the easy part. And the EQing, blending at the right time the hardest. 2 beautiful tracks can sound orgasmic put together at the right time or sound medicore if not done with the right eqing. Just my 2 cents.


+2

Lately I find I play much better when I'm not sober...

And what pisses me off most is that I always seem to play my worst when I'm trying to record a set. I swear I can play a set almost pefectly, then go to record it the next day and it's a fuckin trainwreck.

I think I need to start taking my own advice more often when recording and indulge in some substances to relax and heighten creativity

oh and 3xx3r7:
from what i heard your radio set was crucial, so i'd say ur lookin pretty good on ur good days...


Posted by ieko on Jan-19-2005 08:21:

Yeah this happens to me sometimes, especially if I'm very tired or angry. It's pretty hard to mix when you're frustrated at yourself, even if you are trying to concentrate, you just kindda lose that flow... If that happens, I just stop and wait until the next day.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-19-2005 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
And what pisses me off most is that I always seem to play my worst when I'm trying to record a set. I swear I can play a set almost pefectly, then go to record it the next day and it's a fuckin trainwreck.


Yea i get alot of that


Posted by DannyO on Jan-19-2005 15:02:

Yea I get those, mine come from trying to play music that I'm just not feeling, like playing hard, but actually want to do a chilled set, when I do that I can't pick tracks well and so it causes me to beatmatch crappy, if I'm feeling good and play what I want, then its all good.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-19-2005 16:02:

This will probably make me sound like a bit of an odd bod but it doesn't happen very often to me.
Only if I'm not concentrating or something like that. Otherwise no... can't afford to.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by DjArTiN! on Jan-19-2005 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by razzi
it happens. just turn off your decks and mixer and chill out for a bit. then go back 30 mintues later and try it again. hopefully it works

razzi.


I do the exact same thing, or sometimes I just don't mix that day anymore. If I chill for 30 min. I would still mix for crap.
I usually just stop that day.


Posted by placebo on Jan-19-2005 21:38:

Hmm, I still cant beat match worth a crap haha, its all good. I just keep mixing the same two records until i get them matched..

I think I've listened to PVD - Crush like 800 times :/


Posted by Derivative on Jan-19-2005 22:11:

this is all about the zone! have i explained the zone? well...its simplicity itself but its hard to describe.

so i do it with mario kart. see. i used to be pretty good at mario kart. i could get 1:08:80 on mario grand prix 1 with bowser and by the time i set that race record my ghost was practically undefeatable. sometimes i would pick up the joypad and have the race of my mario kart career. i would just take the corners and i wouldnt spin off the track - i would be playing on the edge of my seat, pulse pounding and i would be in this frame of mind where i was sort of on autopilot. i didnt have to think about what i was doing - i knew what to do - i just had to do it. hold that thought. thats the zone.

some days i try to get back into that frame of mind. but i try too hard. i take a corner badly and i know i could do it better. so i restart but im annoyed that i did so well last time and im fucking up now. thats not a good frame of mind to be in cuz im thinking about fucking up. i wouldnt feel the pulse and the adrenaline and i sure as hell wasnt on autopilot. instead im thinking of being pissed off. im wasting my energy on being pissed off when i could be channeling it on getting into THAT frame of mind. thats trying to get into the zone and failing. the more and more i practice, the more consistantly i could switch onto autopilot and just do it. but crucially i couldnt do this every time - i couldnt have the race of my life every single go. mixing is kind of like mario kart. sometimes you just get on the decks and everything you spin is golden and the hair on the back of your neck is raised and you are really feeling the tunes. and you capitalise on the momentum of pulling off flawless mixes which raises the pulse even more and gets you even more psyched. if you start thinking (wow, ive mixed 5 tunes back to back perfectly you might start fucking up cuz you are not going with it or you are expecting to fuck up. and if you start to think you might screw up, sods law says you will. and you spiral out of the zone. the zone is a state of mind. getting into it consistantly is the hardest thing to do, but when you are there, you are flying.

so whoever said that stuff about feeling the tunes is absolutely correct. its harder to get psyched when you arent feeling the tunes you are playing. its harder to get psyched when theres any doubt in your mind that you are gonna screw up.

the advice is good too. take 30 minutes out and clear your head. just dont think about it. do something else. come back to it with a fresh mindset and try again. producing is like this too. sometimes im not feeling the tunes im writing and it all goes pear shaped. sometimes ill spend hours fixing a tiny bit of my song and ill end up tweaking it so much it sounds worse than it did before. and ill get frustrated. and trust me when i say that you cannot write a good tune if you hate what you are producing. or if you are annoyed at how its going. the best tunes i wrote are the ones i boshed up in an hour, capitalising on the momentum ive gained. what i should have done when i was fucking up was to work up to that point where i start to plateau and just stopped. taken some time out. cleared my head. come back to it and look for what sounds wrong. then correct it with a new frame of mind and fresh ears.

i notice as well that the more i do this, the more time i spend on improving my songs instead of tweaking them into the ground. im more productive. im more positive about it. im getting better all the time and im not wasting time and energy on something that blatently isnt happening. and i find that i can more consistantly get into that frame of mind where i am doing something productive.

try it! there is such a thing as overdoing it. or forcing it when its not coming naturally. instead of getting annoyed about it, crack open a can o beer, do something else that you find is fun and engaging, then come back to mixing when you are a little more psyched, a little more in the frame of mind where you are gonna set out to mix like a mashed up, six armed hindu GOD.


Posted by mef on Jan-19-2005 22:35:

Hehehe

You always know exactly what to say mate

Hows revision? (NOOOOOOOOOO the dreaded R word!!)


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-20-2005 02:09:

Re: One of those days....

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Have you ever had one of those days, when you can't mix for shit? No matter how hard, pissed and concentrated you get, you still produce crappy mixes that day.



You little fucker...

I was doing just fine until yesterday and now my mixing hasn't been shit. I have a lot on my mind right now which is most if not all of the problem, but I have never hit a slump like this. It usually takes me about 30 seconds to have a song beatmatched perfectly, now it is taking up to 3 minutes and still not sounding right. Not only that, but my mixer control has just been ridiculous -- everything sounds like shit when I mix them together. ARGGGGGHHH


Posted by placebo on Jan-20-2005 04:14:

Re: Re: One of those days....

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
You little fucker...

I was doing just fine until yesterday and now my mixing hasn't been shit. I have a lot on my mind right now which is most if not all of the problem, but I have never hit a slump like this. It usually takes me about 30 seconds to have a song beatmatched perfectly, now it is taking up to 3 minutes and still not sounding right. Not only that, but my mixer control has just been ridiculous -- everything sounds like shit when I mix them together. ARGGGGGHHH


Say it ain't so Dirk, say it ain't so!

Dude...your mixes that you've released, the beatmatching is flawless...like when I listen...I cant even tell your songs changed dude...

Just clear your mind man.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-20-2005 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
This will probably make me sound like a bit of an odd bod but it doesn't happen very often to me.
Only if I'm not concentrating or something like that. Otherwise no... can't afford to.

Cheers
Nem



u've been djin since the beginning of time though, its no fair.


Posted by D Dubya on Jan-20-2005 05:14:

Re: Re: Re: One of those days....

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
Say it ain't so Dirk, say it ain't so!

Dude...your mixes that you've released, the beatmatching is flawless...like when I listen...I cant even tell your songs changed dude...

Just clear your mind man.


Hey, I appreciate it bro... I went to the gym for a while tonight and that helped clear my mind. I came home just now and recorded myself and I am getting back into it again -- so it's not too bad. Hopefully the slump is over. Thanks for the words of encouragement, I think I am back in "the zone" for now.

But to everyone out there, yes, I can totally sympathize with the Slump. It makes you want to sell your decks. I was actually figuring out how much I could get for my tables, efx, mixers etc on ebay. A temporarily lapse of insanity....


Posted by Derivative on Jan-20-2005 13:26:

quote:
Hehehe

You always know exactly what to say mate

Hows revision? (NOOOOOOOOOO the dreaded R word!!)


im here aint i? that cant be good!

and i like that expression 'DJing since the beginning of time.' i wonder...

in the beginning of time there was void and emptiness and nothing. nothing except...nemesis spinnin' trance amidst the blackness. and god heard what was being played. and it was good. on the 2nd day, god gave nemesis the gift of coloured light which moved in time with the music. psychedellic. hoo ha! everything has gone 2d again! god was pleased with what he saw. but nemesis was sad to play to the blackness so...on the 3rd day, god made a crowd of people amidst the blackness that would bop up and down non stop in time with the music. and some not. nobody knows why. but nemesis was happy anyway. and god was happy too. and all the people were happy. until they realised they couldnt get booze or even water and there was no bar. so on the fourth day, all the people got pissed off and god had to build a bar establishment with a license to sell alcohol. and all the people were very happy. and drunk. but said, licensed establishment took big chunks out of nemesis's profit margins and were also happy. but nemesis was unhappy. and god didnt give a fuck cuz he had a cracking good party going down and he was teh host. thus ends the first chapter of how the dance music industry sold out.


Posted by Simcut on Jan-20-2005 13:51:

Smile

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