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Posted by Trypt0mine on Jan-19-2005 10:33:

anyone notice...

that games are becoming gayer and gayer by the minute? maybe my standards are too high but it seems like finding a good game is like finding a needle in a haystack, i mean it was always kinda like that but more so now than before. It almost hurts me to see all the wasted work put into these god awful games that come out now and days. anyone share this opinion?


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Jan-19-2005 21:18:

yeah studios dont want to take risks, and so they dont which means we get reiterated stuff all the time.


btw your avatar caught me off guard.


Posted by Yan on Jan-20-2005 00:15:

The new generation of gamers are too amazed by graphics to care for storyline, gameplay, or just general FUN.


Posted by big_charm on Jan-20-2005 02:00:

I agree with most of these points. People are amazed by graphics and sound more than anything now. I find it harder to keep up with the gaming industry as they keep pumping out games (more quantity than QUALITY). Anyways, there are good games out there, but it depends on the genre and mainly what you like.


Posted by TweeK on Jan-20-2005 04:07:

Dunno

i didnt know games had sexual prefrences


Posted by OurManFlint on Jan-20-2005 04:26:

Can you support your argument with several examples of both good and bad games.


Posted by Yan on Jan-20-2005 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by OurManFlint
Can you support your argument with several examples of both good and bad games.


Good Games:

Anything before the release of the next gen consoles (up to the user to decide which generation I'm talking about)

Bad Games:

Everything else.


Posted by chojin on Jan-20-2005 16:37:

i think there is a lack of 'original' good games being released, but thankfully there are loads of sequels still being made, metal gear, gta, ff, resident evil, silent hill, ssx, tekken, DMC....well these are the games that keep me coming back anyway


Posted by Cloud on Jan-20-2005 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Good Games:

Anything before the release of the next gen consoles (up to the user to decide which generation I'm talking about)

Bad Games:

Everything else.



Now that's an Example


Posted by Trypt0mine on Jan-21-2005 04:50:

well there are of course many new age games that have come out that are great but for the most part 94+ pretty much suffer from a new wave of quantity over quality, i just dont find as much inspiration in games. I mean considering all the new technology we have and use in our games, why do i constantly find myself going back to old school for more than the mere fact that its old school? when i think great game, i think super metroid, mario bros 3, kirby, f-zero (i havent even got into NES) and god knows how many more. In fact now and days I find myself not playing console at all because most of the good games of the time are being released on PC ( and those are pretty slim pickings) i just find that new games have a lack of inspiration and you cant really see the creativity in it. Of course my opinions differ from others but i just find that many games now and days are easily forgettable where as many old games i still remember to this day, also another good point is the ease of games now and days. It seems that once the realm of 3d gaming was brought into the light games got easier and easier by the minute, i find it very hard to find a challenge in gaming now and days. But even though the gaming industry as a whole seems to have gotten worse we always find works of arts that are a dime a dozen.


Posted by OurManFlint on Jan-21-2005 08:56:

Games today are easy because the consules allow you to save games and try to beat certain parts with almost unlimited tries, whereas games of earlier time didn't have that option and posed a huge challenge to beat the game. The weak ones gave up, but the strong continued to play. Today, anybody can beat a game and therefor their is not much of a challenge.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-21-2005 12:49:

I think HL2 is the most perfect well-rounded game in terms of : realism, graphics, gameplay, action, and fun


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jan-21-2005 16:53:

Confused

Honestly, you people have way too much facken time on your hands! Who cares about old-skool games, thats the past. Technology is changing every day, you just can't expect everything to be the same. I, myself, like games that have amazing graphics & sound. Back in the day, games were a lot harder ofcourse, which was a advantage but come on, the characteristics of the game sucked! lol Also, I think that games will start to look more realistic year by year. Just enjoy the technology and have fun, don't complain


Posted by Cal on Jan-21-2005 19:16:

Maybe we like the old stuff because that's what we grew up with.

Like with the final fantasy stuff, a lot of people are saying that ff6 or what have you is the best ff game ever (and this is old school 2d SNES kind of game, and I gave up after playing it for 20 min), but after playing ff7, ff10 etc I can't bring myself to play ff6 even though its so acclaimed. Why? The incredibly limited graphics and game engine.

On the other hand, I have no problem playing game boy Zelda games (same deal as ff6) because I used to play them as a little kid, and totally loved them. In fact Id rather play old school Zelda on gameboy over Ratchet and Clank even though RandC has waaay better graphics, etc.

Im sure you guys will be able to come up with your own examples of this.
So yeah, my conclusion - it's because we grew up with these games that we like them so much, and its a trend thats going to continue with each generation of gamers.


Posted by Trypt0mine on Jan-21-2005 22:28:

the point that im trying to make blue_neon is that a lot of games now and days are focusing on visual appeal rather than quality and gameplay. (for instance Doom 3 which was only visually appealing for the first hour or so) every once in a while we see games that take creativity and technology and marry the two making a really really good game, but that is extremely rare. People are just focusing on releasing as many games as possible rather than games that will always be remembered and revered by people in the gaming community. Now i dont really see a much of a point in getting in to an argument over the whole subject, im just saying i dont like it


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-21-2005 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Trypt0mine
the point that im trying to make blue_neon is that a lot of games now and days are focusing on visual appeal rather than quality and gameplay. (for instance Doom 3 which was only visually appealing for the first hour or so) every once in a while we see games that take creativity and technology and marry the two making a really really good game, but that is extremely rare. People are just focusing on releasing as many games as possible rather than games that will always be remembered and revered by people in the gaming community. Now i dont really see a much of a point in getting in to an argument over the whole subject, im just saying i dont like it


While your first post was pretty stupid, I must admit, now that you expanded on your thoughts you are right, ALMOST.

It's funny that you mentioned 1994, because amazingly enough, this little console known as Playstation was released around that time, which changed the industry into a cash-cow. And now Microsoft is taking it one step further (look at the Halo 2 hype. People believe it's the 2nd coming of Christ).

But all hope is not lost. There are many games out there that aren't just about the flash that have been released since 94. You just dont hear much about those games because nowadays it's all the cool kids who think video gaming started in 1994, and that the greatest games ever are Grand Theft Auto or Halo. Just like in music, "cool" is what sells.


Posted by Trypt0mine on Jan-22-2005 02:46:

quote:
It's funny that you mentioned 1994, because amazingly enough, this little console known as Playstation was released around that time, which changed the industry into a cash-cow.


thats why i said it


Posted by DesolateDelusio on Jan-27-2005 23:56:

I thought i was the only one that felt this way. Ever since the new consoles came out games have just lost their spark for me. I try to get into them but never like i used to. I used to be able to sit up late at night stairing at the screen for hours upon hours not even blinking. Now i'm luck if a game keeps my interest for more than a single hour. They just aren't as fun as they used to be. I think its a lot like todays movies. Back in the day they didnt have all of these special effects and they were forced to be creative and make the best out of what they had. Now they just throw some CG crap on it.


Posted by OurManFlint on Jan-28-2005 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DesolateDelusio
I thought i was the only one that felt this way. Ever since the new consoles came out games have just lost their spark for me. I try to get into them but never like i used to. I used to be able to sit up late at night stairing at the screen for hours upon hours not even blinking. Now i'm luck if a game keeps my interest for more than a single hour. They just aren't as fun as they used to be. I think its a lot like todays movies. Back in the day they didnt have all of these special effects and they were forced to be creative and make the best out of what they had. Now they just throw some CG crap on it.
Same think that is happeneing to movies. People nowadays are using CGI as crutch instead of a bonus and creativity is going sown the shithole.


Posted by Shudder on Jan-28-2005 16:50:

i've always played games to waste time. dont care much for the graphics. if the story line is strong, i will be interested longer, otherwise i will stop playing halfway thru.



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