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How Far are We From the Europe Scene
In the post about Danny Howels a good topic is brought up. Mark Scaife was quoted as saying we are behind the europe scene, I would say we are somewhere in the nether regions of being behind the scene. I want a fucking party with 20,000 people in Toronto. Someone needs to give mayor mel a nice pill and make him listen to trance.
I say give him drugs so that he could see past stoopid stereotypes and misconceptions about the parties.
But really, will we ever catch up? Or like PACO said "im going to spain".
well, we are definately a long way behind europe, i mean just one look at a video from sensation or trance energy or dance valley, and you get the picture...
will it ever catch up? i think it won't, but if it does, it won't be for a looong while... 
Well... u have to think of it this way.... the whole electronic culture is still viewed as underground in NorthAmerica.
In Europe, its been mainstream for almost 10 years.
SO...... I say...... were behind 15 Years!
ahahah
TO may be behind in the large party category but Montreal isn't
They throw bashes at Molson Center, Olympic Stadium and Park Jarry.
Imagine hitting raves at Air Canada Center, Skydome and your largest Tennis facility? Eat your heart out, or just make the trip up!
Big parties look very crazy over in Europe... but Im happy with what we have here going to party with aboout 1000 peeps at most parties at the larger venues...
BUT we need a huge one very soon...
vibe is more important than the size.............it's foolish to ever expect such large parties as the european ones with the vibe aswell........look at the cultural differences........north america is fuckin shit..........
we have to catch up in a lot of other ways before the party seen will..........one way would be to watch less reality tv shows......and tv in general, and to work less and play more............
peace
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| Originally posted by JDamage vibe is more important than the size.............it's foolish to ever expect such large parties as the european ones with the vibe aswell........look at the cultural differences........north america is fuckin shit.......... we have to catch up in a lot of other ways before the party seen will..........one way would be to watch less reality tv shows......and tv in general, and to work less and play more............ peace |
yeah, I think I'm gonna have to join you in spain too, paco.
Ottawa people get on my nerves when all they do is bitch about Toronto (no not you stereoprincess) not being as good as Montreal. Whatever~
There is no doubt we are well behind the European scene. I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing tho. I still enjoy the underground feeling to it. And shit were not that underground, I've been to fairly big parties, shit. Back in the "Better Living Center" days Toronto would have 10,000+ people at parties.
A part of me wants everyone to experience trance, or at least a trance party. While another part of me gets sick of the idea of every dick head in town listening to Tiesto in their walkman. 
Europe not only has huge raves, but there typical nightclubs on a weekend are incredible. I mean were getting Armin Van Burren in nov, and the place is shitting their pants. A normal club in the UK probably has AVB, Oliver Lieb, and PVD in one night.
Jon
Yep... and then some "above normal" clubs like Gatecrasher have PVD, Armin, Ferry, Tiesto, Oakenfold, etc. every single week!
I went to some better living centre ravers, well one, oakey and it was a great vibe, but I guess my issue lies in the fact that I have to wait for AVB to really get some amazing trance.
The upside of course is that you dont get your average schmuck thinking he is the trance hero, and the underground feeel is definetly good. But i need trance. I would even just be happy knowing that at a few clubs in toronto Thur, Fri Sat i can hear some trance music.
But Jdamage also made a good point, entirely differnt cultures that wont really ever be the same, whether the scene goes above the ground.
I'm not saying that the Montreal scene is better than TO. I've never partied in TO. What i am saying though is that Montreal has big parties at big venues with top notch lighting, facilities and setup. Montreal is the most European-like city in North America hence things aren't as underground. That's common knowledge so deal with it. What makes what better doesn't matter to me, if you have a complex based on these facts that it's your issue not mine.
So if that comment was directed towards me Halo20 than you know where you can stuff it. If not then ignore what i just said.
First of all, that is sure as hell not what you said. You said Toronto "eat your heart out". 
Last time I checked the montreal scene is going for a shit too. Just because it's the most european city in N.A doesn't make it the least undergound. Moron. Your assumption is wrong. In fact many would argue that New York, Miami or shit even Dallas has a much stronger scene then Montreal.
"Imagine hitting raves at your largest tennis facility?" I thought Freakin this year had to move to Sona because of poor ticket sales? You know what? Who gives a shit anyways, I can't stand Montreal crowds. Period.
Hell Yeah
Damn, we are far behind, and not even in size, it is more in vibe. There will be nothing in comparison to Euro vibe, nothing like that... never.........unfortunately.
Re: Hell Yeah
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| Originally posted by Mandrick_v Damn, we are far behind, and not even in size, it is more in vibe. There will be nothing in comparison to Euro vibe, nothing like that... never.........unfortunately. |
"Air Canada Center"!
LOL! That would be an amazing venue!
I agree with what has been said earlier. The electronic music scene has been very underground here. And in a way I like it better, the parties feel more special. You know that you are partying with a group of ppl that know how to enjoy them selves, and can trully relate to your musical tastes.
Pete Tong, Oakie, PVD have all said that the scene in N.A. reminds them of that in Europe 10 years ago. When eveything was just blowing up. I am grateful to live in Toronto, than anyother place in N.A. just because like someone has said "Toronto = North American Trance Capital"
I know that this scene is not going to be main stream here for a while at least 5 more years or so. That makes me feel special. It's kind of like when I fell in love with prodigy in 95 and than 2 years later, everyone was starting to like them. Why? Just because they went main stream. But I feel like I have been their true fan and did not just jump up on the bandwagon, like a lot of people did.
too far too reach
no comparison 
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