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Posted by Derivative on Jan-19-2005 21:26:

Ł170 ($340) mixer recommendations?

so one of my mates finally got himself a pair of pioneer cdj 500 mkIIs and hes bouncing off the walls. we checked a few sites for mixers in the region of Ł170 ($340 approx) but i realised im not really well up on good budget mixers - most of the ones im familar with constitute stuff that are DJ fantasies and/or are ludicrously expensive

anywho. hes been looking at the following:

ecler smac pro 20 (Ł180, $360 approx)

gemini ps626i (Ł99, $200 approx)

gemini ps676i (Ł139, $280 approx)

numark DXM01USB (Ł134, $280 approx) [has a usb thingy which we havent got a clue about?]

stanton SA 3 (Ł165, $330 approx)

stanton SMX401 (Ł179, $360 approx)

apart from the ecler i dont really know much about the others. anyone here have any advice about mixers around this price range? i thought id consult the wise kings of the DJ booth regarding this matter before he goes and makes a retarded purchase. seeing as uhhhhh, im blatently gonna be using his rig any help would be much appreciated.

Posted by sleepydragon on Jan-19-2005 22:36:

Re: Ł170 ($340) mixer recommendations?

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
numark DXM01USB (Ł134, $280 approx) [has a usb thingy which we havent got a clue about?]

by the way that usb thing is just so u can plug the mixer into the back of ur computer and mix mp3's on the computer if u want to.
Also why not look at the numark dxm06 its Ł175 now

Posted by djtrinity on Jan-19-2005 22:43:

vestax 275

Posted by dex316 on Jan-19-2005 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by djtrinity
vestax 275

is Ł275!

im in a similar position - i just got my decks recently and couldnt decide between a gemini ps626 and a behringer vmx300 (only Ł109). i know loads of people slag off behringer but ive never heard anything bad about the vmx (apparently its built like a tank) and i have a mate who owns one and says its really good so ive ordered one today and it should be delivered tomorrow!!!

Posted by djtrinity on Jan-19-2005 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by dex316
is Ł275!

im in a similar position - i just got my decks recently and couldnt decide between a gemini ps626 and a behringer vmx300 (only Ł109). i know loads of people slag off behringer but ive never heard anything bad about the vmx (apparently its built like a tank) and i have a mate who owns one and says its really good so ive ordered one today and it should be delivered tomorrow!!!

its 275 USD in US!

Posted by dex316 on Jan-19-2005 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by djtrinity
its 275 USD in US!

ah but not many places in southampton take usd i should think

damn the us and its shitty cheap prices

Posted by dex316 on Jan-19-2005 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by djtrinity
its 275 USD in US!

ah but not many places in southampton take usd i should think

damn the us and its shitty cheap prices

Posted by Toufas on Jan-19-2005 23:59:

i have the dxm06 for 3 months now....make me an offer and i will probabl y sell it

Posted by T-Soma on Jan-20-2005 02:31:

You people are lucky, over here in aus a dxm01 is around $499 and 06 is about $150 more. Also buying overseas isnt realy worth it, besids the fact that you gotta import it and buy power converters etc etc, what if it brakes on ya?!
gotta have connections

Posted by tu_face on Jan-20-2005 11:14:

for a simple, straight forward, doing the job mixer, look at the vestax vmc002 or the vmc004. great solid budget mixers that won't just fall apart..

the gemini ps626 is supposed to be pretty good too.

Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2005 12:04:

Vestax PCV 180 Mixer (Ł200), looks not bad. Is Vestax so should be solid. You could go the effects and stuff route of mixers but I'd advise against it, having tried that myself. This looks simple and solid.

LINKY

Posted by Derivative on Jan-20-2005 13:09:

yea i warned not to get sucked in by gimmicky effects units. ive been on a djm 600 and the effects on that are...limited to say the least. especially when you compare them to dedicated outboard effects units. but then again i suppose you pay for that.

anywho i heard some good things about the PCV180 but its a touch on the expensive side hes seriously reluctant not to spend more than Ł170. i would have recommended the PCV275 but yea, unfortuneately in the uk it does cost Ł275 looks shit hot though. vestax seems to be a popular choice around here and i omitted any of their mixers from the list. heheh. i can tell my friend from experience thats its better to go the extra 30, 40, Ł50, even get a job over semester break if you are gonna get something that you will use for a long time and like using. cheaper models might do for now, but more often than not you'll find yourself a year down the line wishing you had [insert feature here]. or wishing it stood up to the battering you gave it. so then, whats good about vestax's range of mixers? i thought vestax where famous for (quote. and i love this quote so much) 'making upside down shit'

whoever mentioned the DXM06 - that looks pretty decent! anyone used one of these before?

its got alot of extras like kills and effects but...how does it feel in operation? hard to explain but when i use my mate's DJM 500 theres alot of features that arent there (changeable crossover curves, kills etc) but it felt really good to use. the channel faders have this lovely resistance to them that makes flicking em really fun. the phono/line switches have this thick mechanical click! when you switch em. overall it just feels very well built. i know the DXM06 isnt gonna be a DJM 500 in the build quality department but how does it stack up? the rotaries and faders look cheapy and plasticky

cheers for all your suggestions people!

Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2005 13:46:

You could try and talk them down. I got a fair bit off a package(tho you tend to get more off them) at JBSMusic doing that. Think they did student discounts at the time, so I talked them down....then mentioned I was a student. Basicly they guy got pissed off with me and wanted rid. Might work

Posted by Derivative on Jan-20-2005 14:14:

theres a digital village in southampton so i guess we could try and find a sweet deal there. ill have to look out for a JBSmusic but its nice to know that some retailers are even willing to haggle. turnkey wouldnt budge on a virus classic. bastards! cheers for the tip though mate!

Posted by tu_face on Jan-20-2005 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
so then, whats good about vestax's range of mixers? i thought vestax where famous for (quote. and i love this quote so much) 'making upside down shit'

true, they are very much into innovative new designs when it comes to playing stuff, but when it comes to mixing stuff, its extremely hard to find a mixer with such a high standard of build quality as the vestax mixer, without it costing Ł9084575. from my experience, the great thing about vestax mixers is that even the basic mixers they bring out are built like tanks. the faders are always spot on and they have a great x-fader. they also stand up to battering better than most mixers, my pcv275 is still as good as the day i bought it, and i give it some proper hammer.

as for best places to buy, i always use either sapphires ( www.decks.co.uk ) or jbsmusic.. usually getting a good price from sapphires and then getting jbsmusic to beat the quote

Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2005 14:42:

Plus they have nice long channel faders. Unlike the Numark PDD01 I bought which has really short ones. Which will piss you off more than you know.

Posted by Derivative on Jan-20-2005 15:09:

quote:
its extremely hard to find a mixer with such a high standard of build quality as the vestax mixer, without it costing Ł9084575.

know what you mean about the ridiculous prices of some mixers . i think alot of people get suckered in by the kills, the fx, the punch buttons - this mixer looks like it has everything! which is a tempting buy but of course if it does everything and its cheap then it HAS to do some or all of them badly. and it may or may not be built like a dry rotting shed, wavering in the breeze.

i think you are right about build quality. i realised one of the things i liked so much about my mate's DJM500. it feels fun to use. it doesnt have kills, changeable crossover curves, punch buttons and the fx unit is pants. but what it does have is very well implemented. very well put together. it just feels good and solid.

Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2005 15:23:

Yeah definatly KISS (keep it simple stupid) is the best way to go. Unless you have a really good reason to get the add on stuff. And it's just more stuff to break. And like someone else said try to play them off eachother. But I does kinda depend on the guy you get on the phone.

On a side note I just realised we are on exactly the same number of posts. lol Acually by the time you read this I have one more.... roll on custom status hehehe.

Posted by Luke Cartwright on Jan-20-2005 15:31:

Re: Re: Ł170 ($340) mixer recommendations?

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
by the way that usb thing is just so u can plug the mixer into the back of ur computer and mix mp3's on the computer if u want to.
Also why not look at the numark dxm06 its Ł175 now

The Numark dxm06 is great fun for the price and is not too bad on build quality, although I find it is a bit on the light side. All in all its good value for money though.

Numark have just released this new mixer if you wanna save up a bit more cash.

http://www.htfr.com/watermark/index.php?catno=MR147228

Posted by Dervish on Jan-20-2005 15:41:

The only thing I would say about that mixer is the same problem as I have with mine. Seriously short channel faders. They make mixing with smooth transistions harder and just feel less accurate.

Posted by 1Million$shot on Jan-20-2005 18:13:

Go for the ecler smac pro 20, it's small, but it's sooo good. A guy I know owns this mixer for 4 years now and it still is brand new, and believe me, he does a lot of spinning !!!

good faders, good sound quality, looks nice, ....

go 4 it !!!

Posted by Dj-Adam-Walker on Jan-20-2005 18:43:

Well all i can add to this conversation is do not get the ps-626 pro if you want it to last....as they dont. Ive had mine a year, and through my own personal bedroom useage..(about once every other day for about an hour). And i dont hammer it, ive had my fair share of club experience and have been taught by some good dj's how to respect gear etc.... and mine has had the crossfader replaced on two occasions and channel faders have to be replaced too. Tops of buttons are starting to come off too....

As for the Gemini 676 then all the difference is this one has a small sampler on the bottom that the 626 doesnt. This is quite good, but not the best and to be honest id tell you to get something else that is better and will last.

What about Behnringers version of the Pioneer Djm-600....?

ive heard all the crap talk about Behnringer mixers, but ive used couple, and for the cheap price you cant complain, and they do last! A friend of mine has one, and has hammered hell out of it at parties and open raves etc (hes a hardcore follower lol) .....and its still working!

Theres my thoughts.

Posted by tu_face on Jan-20-2005 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj-Adam-Walker

What about Behnringers version of the Pioneer Djm-600....?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Posted by Derivative on Jan-20-2005 20:29:

hehehe. we ruled out that one from the start - just on the basis of the sheer number of disgruntled DJX users on this forum

Posted by jusware on Jan-20-2005 21:51:

I wouldn't wish a DJX mixer on my worst enemy. I had one for 9 months before it went ape sh*t on me. I now have a djm600. I'd recommend buying a djm500. I've seen them online for 499$ US if you look in the right places. I bought my Djm600 brand new for 699$. I'd agree with everyone above, stay away from Geminis. The older numarks aren't much better either. I know a guy that had a vestax and swears by it. Although I've only seen him mixing on Djm600s..

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