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Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-22-2005 13:24:

Ipods and mp3 players etc etc

im wanting to get an mp3 player soon

and of course, naturally thinking of the ipod...

however i dont think ipod can do line-in recording (for example
recording a dj set) or something like that..

any similarly priced mp3 players that maybe also worth a look???

which can hold up to 20gig...

cheers


Posted by Tranceilvania on Jan-22-2005 14:23:

CREATIVE ZEN of course... Shits on Ipod big time and making MP3 players for years before the Apple thought of it. Plus, Ipod looks Gay IMO

CREATIVE MP3 PLAYER RANGE


Posted by OLi_A on Jan-22-2005 17:37:

i've only experienced the ipod 20gig but if all you want to do is listen to music, then it is the way to go. in regards to inline recording, well its not hard to just record it on the pc and send it over
problem is with the battery life, only lasts about 18 months or so before you need to send it in and get it replaced (about $100 i think). i was reading up on the zen before i got the ipod and pound for pound it shits on the ipod for playtime (i think 20+ hours compared to the 8 of the gen4 ipod)
one thing with the ipod, always safely disconnect the hardware or you will end up with 18 gig of bad sectors which is not cool. luckily mine was still under warranty and they sent me a new one.


Posted by Rob on Jan-22-2005 17:56:

Re: Ipods and mp3 players etc etc

Uhm the sony nw-hd1?




Posted by one.tjc on Jan-22-2005 22:31:

quote:
however i dont think ipod can do line-in recording


exactly - i hate hate having to drag computer into where i have decks set up.

for this reason i'd look at getting a zen or an iRiver product

btw, saw recently they are bringing out a mini zen w/ 5gb & line in etc. [surprise suprise!]


theres thousands of alternatives tho

edit: look for ones that dont have copy protection - eg sony & the itunes gimmick [tho that can be bypassed]


Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-22-2005 23:07:

oh

i didnt realise that after a certain amount of time, you needed to purchase a new battery.. that kinda sucks, hey

i figured they'd just use normal Nickel Metal Hydride rechargables or something...

any ideas on how much teh Creative Zen Touch is??


Posted by Psygnosis on Jan-23-2005 00:08:

I wouldn't get either, get the Sony one they just released, the battery life seems to be way longer than Ipod. I think it was 20gs aswell, and about the same price as the Ipod.

I haven't got any of these but from the reviews i read, the Sony one is a sure winner.

I'll try find out all the details about the Sony one.


Posted by one.tjc on Jan-23-2005 00:18:

i hate sony's atrac codec - does the new one play normal mp3s or do you have to re-encode everything?


Posted by Psygnosis on Jan-23-2005 00:26:

Here it is


quote:
What do you want in a digital music player? The NW-HD3 has it. You can store up to 13,000 tracks1. The player has direct MP3 compatibility, so you can quickly transfer your music. And, it can go for up to 30 hours with one charge.

� 20GB1 Hard Drive Digital Music Player stores 13,000 tracks2 at 48kbps when using Sony's ATRAC3plus� audio format. It fits comfortably into the palm of a hand or is easily carried in pocket or purse.


� Compatible with the Connect� Music Store: The Connect� Music Store provides an easy method for downloading personal music. Connect� Music Store offers access to an extensive online music library including many independent titles as well as featured artist and celebrity mixes. www.connect.com


� Get 50 songs from Connect.com with the purchase and registration of this NW-HD3. Terms and conditions apply. For details go to www.connect.com/hd3.


� Plays Back in MP3 and ATRAC3� Audio Formats, Supports Multiple Internet Audio Formats (WMA, WAV)2 The Network Walkman player plays back MP3 and ATRAC3� files and supports the most popular Internet audio formats.


� Direct Battery Charge Via USB with Supplied Adapter: The unit comes supplied with an AC adapter and a USB cable, both allowing you to charge the unit. With the supplied AC adapter, quick charge feature allows battery to be charged to 80% capacity in one hour.


� Available in 5 new colors: Silver, Blue, Black, Pink, Red.


� 1.5" 7-line Backlit LCD Display: It displays track number, bit rate, elapsed time, song title, artist name, spectrum analyzer, play mode, bass, AVLS, and shows battery life indicator.


� Large toggle navigation button: Easily navigate through your music mixes with the large toggle navigation button.


� Up to 30 hours3 playback with built-in rechargeable lithium-ion battery
The internal battery can be charged with the supplied AC adapter or USB cable.


� G-Sensor� Shock Protection4 provides impact protection.


� Skip Free5 G-Protection Technology continues to provide quick recovery from both horizontal and vertical shock.


� Transfer Personal Downloaded Music and Recordings between your CDs and your PC, creating your own music mixes for on-the-go enjoyment.


� Compatible with USB 2.01 Connects to USB 2.0 port for high-speed data transfer. After music mixes have been created in the jukebox, they are easily transferred at high speed to the device.


Last time i saw this, it was around 500 dollars.

one.tjc no idea mate, but wouldn't think its that complicated anymore from the reviews it got.


Posted by quineska on Jan-23-2005 00:51:

Theres a little known, but well reviewed mp3 player XClef....has voice recording and radio, better sound quality, similar price, also has digital/analog line-in.

Here's a review:
http://www.atruereview.com/xclef/index.php

Prices seem to be around $500 for a 20-40gig player. PC User magazine I remember put this one ahead of the iPod, they were quite impressed with the sound quality.


Posted by one.tjc on Jan-23-2005 01:02:

the sony certainly looks the sh*t...

but would be no good if has no line-in recording function


Posted by escee on Jan-23-2005 02:38:

sony anythings have the amazing ability to break just after their warranty has expired and are usually overpriced when compared to similar products.

In summary, sony suck.


Posted by NiNo LoCo on Jan-23-2005 03:49:

all i can say
once again.. iriver hp-140 line in, lcd remote, built in mic, radio
etc. etc.

I used this last night for christopher lawrence set, and came out beautiful

can record either mp3 (any bit rate) or wave
from line in, optical in, radio

can play mp3, wave, ogg

drag and drop, plug and play



review : http://www.bytesector.com/data/bs-article.asp?ID=284


Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-23-2005 05:07:

so this might be the goods, as i dont realyl want a 40 gig one??


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...5745897646&rd=1


Posted by tathi on Jan-23-2005 05:39:

anyone heard of the X-Drive?

if i put music on it and hold shots from my digital camera i'm happy


Posted by muli on Jan-23-2005 05:59:

quote:
Originally posted by one.tjc
i hate sony's atrac codec - does the new one play normal mp3s or do you have to re-encode everything?


has the option of either ATRAC or MP3

i have the Sony MD, its a great size havnt had any problems.


Posted by NiNo LoCo on Jan-23-2005 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
so this might be the goods, as i dont realyl want a 40 gig one??


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...5745897646&rd=1


yeah there the 20 gig version hp120
does the same thing

the current models that are available now is the h320 and h340 if you cant find the h120's

but there more expensive and you dont get the remote (extra 120buks )
but its got a colour screen


Posted by pasocon-otaku on Jan-23-2005 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by NiNo LoCo
yeah there the 20 gig version hp120
does the same thing

the current models that are available now is the h320 and h340 if you cant find the h120's

but there more expensive and you dont get the remote (extra 120buks )
but its got a colour screen


AND can act as a USB host to suck photos from your digital camera - and display them on the colour screen. AWESOME for holidays - huge storage space, no need to juggle memory cards.


Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-23-2005 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Kozzie
i got a creative zentouch 20 gig i luuurve it ^_^ nothing like going for long walks and listening to 3 hour sets without haveing to change cd's every hour or so ive allso grown a bad/funny habit of danceing on public transport now :P


that does LINEIN recording too, doesnt it kozzie?

how much was that retail.. cause im looking to get one, and any idea if that one is sold at Myer??


Posted by one.tjc on Jan-23-2005 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
that does LINEIN recording too, doesnt it kozzie?

how much was that retail.. cause im looking to get one, and any idea if that one is sold at Myer??



yes they record from line in,

they retail at roughly the same price for an equivalent ipod, however unlike the ipods they arent set price so i'd bargain them down quite alot.


Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-23-2005 23:49:

i didnt really think you could bargain a department store, like myer


Posted by tachyon on Jan-24-2005 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
i didnt really think you could bargain a department store, like myer


but why myer when you can get it for less on ebay?

go to harvey norman if you're not confident with ebay
[/plug]


Posted by Chookie on Jan-24-2005 00:57:

Yeah I have a 20G IRiver, it records beautifully. You might not think you need that much space but you will once you have it (and u will wish u had more) It's a goog portable hard drive too


Posted by one.tjc on Jan-24-2005 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
i didnt really think you could bargain a department store, like myer


hence why you wouldnt buy it from myer


Posted by 00soups00 on Jan-24-2005 01:56:

i have vouchers.. so i thought i'd use them to buy an mp3 player
instead of using $$$ to buy it..


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